I am definitely pleased with this new edition of THE OTHER, a score which I love for being both haunting and beautiful.
My only "hot take" is that I am not a fan of the whistling! Yes, I know that it functions as both diagetic and non-diagetic purposes, but it's off-key and momentarily makes me feel like I'm listening to an M&E track for the movie. So, for my own custom edit of this score, I'll swap out the film version of the Main Title for that alternate Main Title track, which doesn't have the whistling and was used in the old 20-minute suite presentation.
I am definitely pleased with this new edition of THE OTHER, a score which I love for being both haunting and beautiful.
My only "hot take" is that I am not a fan of the whistling! Yes, I know that it functions as both diagetic and non-diagetic purposes, but it's off-key and momentarily makes me feel like I'm listening to an M&E track for the movie. So, for my own custom edit of this score, I'll swap out the film version of the Main Title for that alternate Main Title track, which doesn't have the whistling and was used in the old 20-minute suite presentation.
Just curious Tom, what are your feelings on Jerry's use of whistling in his Main Title for BANDOLERO? Of course it's incorporated more with the music in this case, then as a character whistling before the music starts in THE OTHER. And how about Earle Hagen's ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW Main Title where supposedly Andy is whistling the theme as he and Opie go down to the Ol' Fishin' Hole. Thanks. Didn't John Wayne whistle a theme from one of his movies back in the day, in the movie?
I am definitely pleased with this new edition of THE OTHER, a score which I love for being both haunting and beautiful.
My only "hot take" is that I am not a fan of the whistling! Yes, I know that it functions as both diagetic and non-diagetic purposes, but it's off-key and momentarily makes me feel like I'm listening to an M&E track for the movie. So, for my own custom edit of this score, I'll swap out the film version of the Main Title for that alternate Main Title track, which doesn't have the whistling and was used in the old 20-minute suite presentation.
Just curious Tom, what are your feelings on Jerry's use of whistling in his Main Title for BANDOLERO? Of course it's incorporated more with the music in this case, then as a character whistling before the music starts in THE OTHER. And how about Earle Hagen's ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW Main Title where supposedly Andy is whistling the theme as he and Opie go down to the Ol' Fishin' Hole. Thanks. Didn't John Wayne whistle a theme from one of his movies back in the day, in the movie?
Good questions! The whistler in BANDOLERO has never really bothered me, but maybe because it's in key and in tune with the orchestra, so it feels much more integrated. I guess in the case of THE OTHER, it's purposefully off-key since it represents an onscreen character's attempt at whistling and I kinda find that... grating?
On a similar track, at the end of the "Kick The Can" suite, I was always annoyed at the intrusive signing by Scatman Crothers (I still love ya, Scatman)!
Thanks Tom. I'm also enjoying the new Varese CD of THE OTHER. It really is a great Jerry Goldsmith score. So beautiful and lovely and haunting. I tried watching the movie itself again recently and it's a hard one to watch. It's ultimately such a tragedy and yet Goldsmith's music adds such a beautiful touch. He was truly a master of capturing the essence of the pictures that he scored. I love the upbeat playing of the Main Theme which appears a few times in the film. It really captures the joy of youth. All the fun and innocence. And his superb ALEXANDRA theme for the brother's mother. These are some of my favorite parts of the score. And of course Jerry's wonderful scoring of the Crow flying sequence as Niles plays the game.
Thanks Tom. I'm also enjoying the new Varese CD of THE OTHER. It really is a great Jerry Goldsmith score. So beautiful and lovely and haunting. I tried watching the movie itself again recently and it's a hard one to watch. It's ultimately such a tragedy and yet Goldsmith's music adds such a beautiful touch. He was truly a master of capturing the essence of the pictures that he scored. I love the upbeat playing of the Main Theme which appears a few times in the film. It really captures the joy of youth. All the fun and innocence. And his superb ALEXANDRA theme for the brother's mother. These are some of my favorite parts of the score. And of course Jerry's wonderful scoring of the Crow flying sequence as Niles plays the game.
That is one of the all-time textbook examples of great film scoring to make you feel what the character is feeling. Can you even imagine a cue like that in today's droning, thumbing scoring? Because that's what you'd get, or that woman who wrote Joker playing two notes together on her cello.
Thanks Tom. I'm also enjoying the new Varese CD of THE OTHER. It really is a great Jerry Goldsmith score. So beautiful and lovely and haunting. I tried watching the movie itself again recently and it's a hard one to watch. It's ultimately such a tragedy and yet Goldsmith's music adds such a beautiful touch. He was truly a master of capturing the essence of the pictures that he scored. I love the upbeat playing of the Main Theme which appears a few times in the film. It really captures the joy of youth. All the fun and innocence. And his superb ALEXANDRA theme for the brother's mother. These are some of my favorite parts of the score. And of course Jerry's wonderful scoring of the Crow flying sequence as Niles plays the game.
That is one of the all-time textbook examples of great film scoring to make you feel what the character is feeling. Can you even imagine a cue like that in today's droning, thumbing scoring? Because that's what you'd get, or that woman who wrote Joker playing two notes together on her cello.
is there an actual score in The Joker. Apart from those cello notes, which resemble more like sound design or effects, there wasn't much meat on the bone. I asked the question before and I'll ask it again. Who is this Hurdy Gurdy dude and why does he claim to be a composer.
I think the whistling is great; it's part of the score. The fact that it's somewhat off-key and uncertainly executed adds apprehension to the music. I like it when composers (not just film composers) push expectations a bit.
I brought this up in the Sudden Death thread so I apologize for bringing it up here but is anyone experiencing bad glitching or distortion during playback (or issues with encoding into digital formats)? Sudden Death had this issue on several tracks but The Other seems to be even worse for me.
Yes I’m having the same issue. I did play the main title on my regular cd player and listened with headphones and could not hear any issues but when I try to rip it I’m getting a similar problem as the City Hall fiasco. I used dbpoweramp and it showed issues with 14 out of the 19 cues.
I know my external drive is probably due for replacement so I bought one that is an upgrade from it and will see if that helps.
I've also tried multiple drives with the same failures. With The Other, practically every track is un-rippable on both EAC and dBpoweramp. During disc playback, one drive will manifest the defects with hitching in the audio stream. Another drive will have an more static type sound that regularly reoccurs over the length of the track.
Thanks Tom. I'm also enjoying the new Varese CD of THE OTHER. It really is a great Jerry Goldsmith score. So beautiful and lovely and haunting. I tried watching the movie itself again recently and it's a hard one to watch. It's ultimately such a tragedy and yet Goldsmith's music adds such a beautiful touch. He was truly a master of capturing the essence of the pictures that he scored. I love the upbeat playing of the Main Theme which appears a few times in the film. It really captures the joy of youth. All the fun and innocence. And his superb ALEXANDRA theme for the brother's mother. These are some of my favorite parts of the score. And of course Jerry's wonderful scoring of the Crow flying sequence as Niles plays the game.
That is one of the all-time textbook examples of great film scoring to make you feel what the character is feeling. Can you even imagine a cue like that in today's droning, thumbing scoring? Because that's what you'd get, or that woman who wrote Joker playing two notes together on her cello.
is there an actual score in The Joker. Apart from those cello notes, which resemble more like sound design or effects, there wasn't much meat on the bone. I asked the question before and I'll ask it again. Who is this Hurdy Gurdy dude and why does he claim to be a composer.
I've also tried multiple drives with the same failures. With The Other, practically every track is un-rippable on both EAC and dBpoweramp. During disc playback, one drive will manifest the defects with hitching in the audio stream. Another drive will have an more static type sound that regularly reoccurs over the length of the track.
I ripped mine in dBpoweramp with no issues at all, every track being checked as accurate.
My drive is a 9-year-old Pioneer CD/DVD/Blu-Ray burner.
I've also tried multiple drives with the same failures. With The Other, practically every track is un-rippable on both EAC and dBpoweramp. During disc playback, one drive will manifest the defects with hitching in the audio stream. Another drive will have an more static type sound that regularly reoccurs over the length of the track.
I ripped mine in dBpoweramp with no issues at all, every track being checked as accurate.
My drive is a 9-year-old Pioneer CD/DVD/Blu-Ray burner.
I'm at a total loss here. I've dealt with problematic discs before but nothing nearly this bad. And the fact that there are so few reported problems from other people is even more perplexing. I'm about to throw in the towel and just buy the damn lossless album from Qobuz. Very clever of Varese to make me buy the album twice.
Interesting that there are people encountering problems ripping this CD, as it was the first time in a while a CD gave me trouble as well. I am ripping with EAC to ALAC, and I had to set EAC to disallow the CD player to slow down during ripping; I set it to the fixed speed of "20x". That worked for me. I did play THE OTHER as a CD in my hifi setup, it played fine there.
Interesting that there are people encountering problems ripping this CD, as it was the first time in a while a CD gave me trouble as well. I am ripping with EAC to ALAC, and I had to set EAC to disallow the CD player to slow down during ripping; I set it to the fixed speed of "20x". That worked for me. I did play THE OTHER as a CD in my hifi setup, it played fine there.
Interesting. Is that found under "Drive Options"? When I look there, the only setting for Speed Selection is "Current."
Interesting. I didn't have any difficulty ripping it myself, although I have had some difficulty ripping some CDs in the past. Only rarely, but sometimes. I wonder what causes that, when the disc plays fine in a player.
At the risk of sounding like an annoying advice nanny, have you tried slowing the speed of the ripping down?
Interesting that there are people encountering problems ripping this CD, as it was the first time in a while a CD gave me trouble as well. I am ripping with EAC to ALAC, and I had to set EAC to disallow the CD player to slow down during ripping; I set it to the fixed speed of "20x". That worked for me. I did play THE OTHER as a CD in my hifi setup, it played fine there.
Interesting. Is that found under "Drive Options"? When I look there, the only setting for Speed Selection is "Current."
In EAC, it's under "EAC/Drive Options.../"Offset/Speed" There is a drop down menu (which usually says "current") and a checkbox "Allow speed reduction during extraction". This checkbox is normally checked (why not), but some drives slow down very, very much, but never speed up again after slowdown. This then leads to a CD rip taking days. I set the speed to "20x" (it says "current" if there is no disc inserted, but if you insert a disc, you usually see a number of speeds. I chose "20x" because it was fast, but not the maximum I could have chosen). So I set a fixed speed, and unchecked the box "Allow speed reduction during extraction". That worked for me. Came out as "accurately ripped/confirmed".
