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May 3, 2024 - 1:04 PM
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Also, I personally think that the best sounding Godzilla 1984 CD is from Box 4, that has been my go-to G-84 CD for years, plus it has a very rare track that is not on the 1993 Godzilla 1984 Futureland CD or the upcoming 2024 remaster, which is the original "Film Version" of "Goodbye Godzilla" sung by The Star Sisters, as heard during the rolling ending credits. The film version of this song is very different from the record version.
I agree! As far as I can remember, the audio quality between the two is similar. Plus, you get the correct version of the mentioned song. Personally, I didn't really care that what Futureland provided the incorrect version, but it's great that Toho Music rectified it.
By the way, the score was recorded in mono and stereo. Only the final takes were kept on the stereo tapes, whereas the mono tapes retained pretty much everything. This is why some bonus tracks are in mono.
That brings me to my issue with the Perfect Collection release of the score. If both recordings were at Toho Music's fingertips, why not release both? If they did it for the Showa scores recorded in such fashion, why not this one? Hell, "The Imperial Navy" (1981) was recorded both in mono and stereo, and Cinema-kan provided both when they released the score. Whatever.
You say "much" and "most," not "all" - so, in your opinion, which titles in the Perfect Collection would you say were as good as the Futureland releases (or even better)?
I plan on consolidating the information many of us shared throughout the message boards and provide a thorough breakdown of the issues (and pros) regarding the Perfect Collection and Toho Music's releases in general as well as comparing them to the earlier releases. The only matter is finding sufficient time for me to do so. I haven't had much time to provide detailed responses, hence why my replies tended to be vague.
I will say that my main gripe is the artificial reverb applied to everything recorded in mono as well as the stereo version of "King Kong vs. Godzilla". As someone who is big on preservation, I do not believe in unnecessary modifications such as adding things that were never present on the tapes, cinetapes (cinetape is a format nearly identical to 35mm magnetic film), DATs (some Godzilla scores such as "Godzilla VS Biollante", "Godzilla VS King Ghidorah", "Godzilla VS Mechagodzilla" and "Godzilla 2000 Millennium" are stored on DAT) and so on.
As for a pro I can mention right of the bat, I highly recommend the three Kurosawa box sets. The audio quality is fantastic and the packaging is gorgeous (though there are a couple of mysteries to the packaging such as text color variations on the obis). Toho Music did an exemplary job with them, with my only gripe being no cue sheet information in the booklets that Toho Music would later provide with their other releases. At least the recording session dates are provided with most of the scores. In addition, everything except for the bonus discs were released individually. So, you can pick or choose the scores you want, buy all fourteen individual releases, buy the box sets or buy both the boxes as well as the individual releases.
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May 3, 2024 - 1:57 PM
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Ifukube
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Also, I personally think that the best sounding Godzilla 1984 CD is from Box 4, that has been my go-to G-84 CD for years, plus it has a very rare track that is not on the 1993 Godzilla 1984 Futureland CD or the upcoming 2024 remaster, which is the original "Film Version" of "Goodbye Godzilla" sung by The Star Sisters, as heard during the rolling ending credits. The film version of this song is very different from the record version.
I agree! As far as I can remember, the audio quality between the two is similar. Plus, you get the correct version of the mentioned song. Personally, I didn't really care that what Futureland provided the incorrect version, but it's great that Toho Music rectified it.
By the way, the score was recorded in mono and stereo. Only the final takes were kept on the stereo tapes, whereas the mono tapes retained pretty much everything. This is why some bonus tracks are in mono.
That brings me to my issue with the Perfect Collection release of the score. If both recordings were at Toho Music's fingertips, why not release both? If they did it for the Showa scores recorded in such fashion, why not this one? Hell, "The Imperial Navy" (1981) was recorded both in mono and stereo, and Cinema-kan provided both when they released the score. Whatever.
I'm glad you agree! 
I have always liked the modern remastering on the Toho Music Godzilla 1984 CD and think it sounds fine. It's been a while though since I have heard the additional Godzilla 1984 tracks, which Toho Music felt they had to dump on to Disc 2, from the Godzilla vs. Mothra 1992 2CD set...I never liked that they did that, but probably understand why they did it.
I did not know that this score was also recorded in mono and that there might be a mono version out there, but I would probably always prefer to hear this soundtrack in stereo anyway. At this point, who knows if we'll ever get a mono version of Godzilla 1984 on CD?
And yes, having the "film version" of "Goodbye Godzilla" as heard during the rolling ending credits, was very important to me and a big reason why I bought Perfect Box 4.
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May 3, 2024 - 4:20 PM
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Ostinato
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I'm glad you agree!
I have always liked the modern remastering on the Toho Music Godzilla 1984 CD and think it sounds fine. It's been a while though since I have heard the additional Godzilla 1984 tracks, which Toho Music felt they had to dump on to Disc 2, from the Godzilla vs. Mothra 1992 2CD set...I never liked that they did that, but probably understand why they did it.
I did not know that this score was also recorded in mono and that there might be a mono version out there, but I would probably always prefer to hear this soundtrack in stereo anyway. At this point, who knows if we'll ever get a mono version of Godzilla 1984 on CD?
And yes, having the "film version" of "Goodbye Godzilla" as heard during the rolling ending credits, was very important to me and a big reason why I bought Perfect Box 4.
Yep! There's a mono version too! It was most likely for the mono mix of the film. The booklet has the cue sheet transcriptions for both the stereo and mono reels. The mono version was recorded alongside with the stereo version. So, the performances and takes are the same. This is what was also done with the Showa stereo scores. I like to have absolutely everything on the tapes released (for the sake of preservation as well as my overall preference to mono) so not including the mono recording is unfortunate. As far as I know, it's never been made available anywhere.
Regarding the song, I completely understand! While I got the Futureland release only for Koroku's score, I can see how irritating that the film version was omitted. I guess licensing it was too expensive for Futureland to include it. Who knows.
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Cool, thanks for the tip! I’ll look into those other options.
Indeed. Thanks for all the info, Gentlemen.
Still, by comparaison, ArkSquare seems the most economical option or am I missing something.
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If you're in the US the Movies Unlimited deal would be slightly cheaper, $58 plus tax. So for me it'd be $62 for 4 CDs shipped (if you use Rebatesme you can get an additional 7% back).
The code (good thru the end of the month) can be used endlessly so you can make multiple orders of 4 CDs and just keep doing the same deal. I'm not ordering every CD but most of the Showa era stuff I've never owned so I'm getting most of those and a few of the later Heisei soundtracks.
I've ordered from MU a lot but not CDs, so we'll see if they come through
I'll be going for all 22.
Thanks. Please keep us posted.
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Well, I just pre-ordered the fifteen Showa titles at CDJapan. I'll pre-order the remaining seven next month.
Great. I will soon be doing the same. Please keeps us posted. Thanks.
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Great. I will soon be doing the same. Please keeps us posted. Thanks.
Will do!
I my initial plan was to wait until sound samples turned up before I consider purchasing them. If good, then I'd buy five or six at a time. Clearly I threw that plan out the window.
Hahaha. So have I. I can't prove that the sound will be superior, yet I know it to be true.
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