 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
My gut feeling would be that the Horner Estate can donate as they are not one of the initiators of the campaign...
I posed this question over on JWFAN, about Young's NOSFERATU, and was surprised to discover that people involved in the campaign could not contribute themselves. I would assume that means, for this particular project, the Horner estate as well. Of course, that only goes for the Kickstarter campaign. I'm sure they, or anyone else involved, could contribute OUTSIDE of the campaign.
It's only the actual creator who can't contribute because they can't add a reward to their own Kickstarter account. Anyone else can contribute on their own account. In any case, how would Kickstarter know who else is closely associated with the campaign - and why would they care?
|
|
|
|
|
|
My gut feeling would be that the Horner Estate can donate as they are not one of the initiators of the campaign...
I posed this question over on JWFAN, about Young's NOSFERATU, and was surprised to discover that people involved in the campaign could not contribute themselves. I would assume that means, for this particular project, the Horner estate as well. Of course, that only goes for the Kickstarter campaign. I'm sure they, or anyone else involved, could contribute OUTSIDE of the campaign.
It's only the actual creator who can't contribute because they can't add a reward to their own Kickstarter account. Anyone else can contribute on their own account. In any case, how would Kickstarter know who else is closely associated with the campaign - and why would they care?
Sounds sensible.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, after 27 days this campaign has finally made it into five figures, thanks to four new backers in the past day:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/robes/james-horners-the-hand-and-the-dresser-complete-re-recordings
Still almost $119,000 to go.
Now that the Christopher Young Nosferatu campaign has happily passed goal (the ninth new film music recording Kickstarter campaign to do so, out of nine run), maybe fans of quality film music can turn their attention to this, over the next month? As much as I love Christopher Young, I would have thought there were even more James Horner fans than Young fans, since Horner scored so many more hit films for more big-name directors over the course of his career.
While I certainly believe that too many super-wealthy people (by no means all) contribute far too little to the general good, and in fact go out of their way to avoid it, I can't say that I feel they owe us a recording of The Hand (a score that I'm not sure even James Horner himself was eager to see the light of day, though somebody can feel free to correct me on that).
Please don't take this to be a negative comment about anybody's intentions here, nor do I want to dampen anybody's enthusiasm! I just don't understand the implication that it is anybody's moral duty to support this just because he worked with Horner and/or is rich.
I agree Schiffy that they're under no obligation or moral duty... to me what would be nice is if some of James Horner's biggest and most famous collaborators (singers, lyricists, directors) could just do a quick and easy free share of this project on their social media. Have an intern do it! Just getting the word out would be a big help, I think. I've only got maybe 150 film music friends on Facebook and I think they all know about this already. But if someone like Nicholas Meyer (much less James Cameron or Celine Dion!) could share this, I think that might have more impact. Heck, can we get OLIVER STONE, the actual director of THE HAND, in on sharing this?? He's still active and has lots of fans.
Yavar
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Doug Raynes is, of course, right, as is Yavar, as is MThiermann. The creator, in this case myself, is precluded from backing their own project. My family, Sara Horner, as well as the people working on the recordings, are not. ONLY myself, because I created the campaign is not allowed to pledge anything. (My Mom already did, by the way...)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Well, after 27 days this campaign has finally made it into five figures, thanks to four new backers in the past day:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/robes/james-horners-the-hand-and-the-dresser-complete-re-recordings
Still almost $119,000 to go.
Now that the Christopher Young Nosferatu campaign has happily passed goal (the ninth new film music recording Kickstarter campaign to do so, out of nine run), maybe fans of quality film music can turn their attention to this, over the next month? As much as I love Christopher Young, I would have thought there were even more James Horner fans than Young fans, since Horner scored so many more hit films for more big-name directors over the course of his career.
While I certainly believe that too many super-wealthy people (by no means all) contribute far too little to the general good, and in fact go out of their way to avoid it, I can't say that I feel they owe us a recording of The Hand (a score that I'm not sure even James Horner himself was eager to see the light of day, though somebody can feel free to correct me on that).
Please don't take this to be a negative comment about anybody's intentions here, nor do I want to dampen anybody's enthusiasm! I just don't understand the implication that it is anybody's moral duty to support this just because he worked with Horner and/or is rich.
I agree Schiffy that they're under no obligation or moral duty... to me what would be nice is if some of James Horner's biggest and most famous collaborators (singers, lyricists, directors) could just do a quick and easy free share of this project on their social media. Have an intern do it! Just getting the word out would be a big help, I think. I've only got maybe 150 film music friends on Facebook and I think they all know about this already. But if someone like Nicholas Meyer (much less James Cameron or Celine Dion!) could share this, I think that might have more impact. Heck, can we get OLIVER STONE, the actual director of THE HAND, in on sharing this?? He's still active and has lots of fans.
Yavar
I think you got a digit wrong - they have 129,800 bucks to go and basically thirty days to get there.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Bruce, that is their GOAL amount. They have now raised over $10,000 towards it, so I was taking that into account. But still the remaining amount is almost twice what Intrada asked for to record two Bernard Herrmann scores with the RSNO, so something major needs to happen for this campaign to have a chance, I think.
Yavar
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Today, the main title from The Dresser was uploaded. And it's so beautiful...
|
|
|
|
|
|
deleted
|
|
|
|
|
|
PREVIEW: The Dresser (1983) | 1M1 - Main Titles
Due to a technical issue, we had to re-upload the video. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and for spamming your inbox with the same update.
https://youtu.be/S5i3Vt6h4nU
We are currently in the middle of preparing James Horner's scores, and we'd like to share with you an Avid Sibelius & NotePerformer audio-video export of one of The Dresser's various versions of the Main Titles, painstakingly reconstructed and prepared by the project's producer & orchestrator, Nikiforos Chrysoloras.
In this version, James Horner has a Boy Soprano performing the melody (just like the End Titles) - instead of the Woodwinds that ended up in the film version - plus a slightly altered Piano line at the beginning of the cue.
We can't wait to re-record this beautiful and intimate score by the legendary composer this coming June in Prague, with the City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra.
Let us know what you think, and whether you'd like more cues from The Dresser and The Hand to follow. Enjoy!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Let us know what you think, and whether you'd like more cues from The Dresser and The Hand to follow. Enjoy!
I have an old unmentionable of The Hand (common at one time) so I know roughly what to expect from it... I guess if there are interesting cues that weren't included on that, I'd be most curious to hear them.
But what I am personally MOST excited to hear are some mockups of at least excerpts of the seven unheard early Horner concert works. Since they're a big part of why this is a 2CD set being recorded, and necessitating such a high $$$ amount for the goal, I have a feeling that getting some idea about this music might be important to attract new potential backers.
Yavar
|
|
|
|
|
|
PREVIEW: The Dresser (1983) | 1M1 - Main Titles
Due to a technical issue, we had to re-upload the video. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and for spamming your inbox with the same update.
https://youtu.be/S5i3Vt6h4nU
We are currently in the middle of preparing James Horner's scores, and we'd like to share with you an Avid Sibelius & NotePerformer audio-video export of one of The Dresser's various versions of the Main Titles, painstakingly reconstructed and prepared by the project's producer & orchestrator, Nikiforos Chrysoloras.
In this version, James Horner has a Boy Soprano performing the melody (just like the End Titles) - instead of the Woodwinds that ended up in the film version - plus a slightly altered Piano line at the beginning of the cue.
We can't wait to re-record this beautiful and intimate score by the legendary composer this coming June in Prague, with the City of Prague Philharmonic Orchestra.
Let us know what you think, and whether you'd like more cues from The Dresser and The Hand to follow. Enjoy!
How long is the music from 'The Dresser'? And yes, I would love to hear more of it...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
It’s still crawling forward, but just barely under $118,000 to go. Maybe there will be a save from the Horner Estate or some other friend of Horner’s with cash.
But if not… maybe this could be re-run a little differently, and find success. I was recently reminded of the successful Wing Commander orchestral re-recording Kickstarter from 10 years ago because a Volume 2 campaign is currently running:
https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=156618&forumID=1&archive=0
But LOOK! If you go to the composer’s Kickstarter page, you’ll see that he tried and failed a few times to get Volume 2 going… and he still pressed on and found success eventually, learning from the failure and changing a few things:
https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1373816047/created
Yavar
|
|
|
|
|
|
If the campaign fails, then I hope that Robin starts a new one soon. But then only with 'The Dresser' and 'The Hand'. That should roughly halve the costs. The concerts could then be realized in a later campaign.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
