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judy the Hutt: so I guess I out of here.
joan hue: Don't ever leave us, Judy. You are too valuable. Stay and fight the good fight.
judy and joan, never forget we all choose to switch on the machines and click the clicks that lead us into online encounters of a distasteful nature.
The interest of the greater percentage of the trolls here in provocation exceeds their interest in music. No problem here, if those provocations have their origin in a dispute over movies or music. We are all entitled to evaluate for ourselves the validity of the trolls' truculence. Is it about art, or the trolls' own misbegotten obsessions?
I choose to take their claims on their face, and have concluded that, though many people claim to cherish "liberty", or despise "bias", or extol "tradition", the best we can assume of our pugilistic fellow score fans is that the calming, morally magnanimous effects of film and music pluck different sets of strings in their own consciences, and I do not feel fit to judge them.
I just wish they paid more attention to the efforts of all the artists we admire to assuage suspicion and malice in the human heart. Surely they see in themselves the liberty we all have to use the arts for understanding our fellow man...and wo-man.
I've got your backs, ladies.
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The author of that article is being a bit too literal in my opinion. Regarding Williams' music, this boils down to quite a simple issue: Familiarity at a glance.
Western orchestration and musical techniques are used not only for the "good guys" but for anything that's not terribly otherworldly. Why? Because we're familiar with it. Eastern techniques are used for "exotic" locales in order to give us something that stands out as unique and not necessarily something you hear on a daily basis. These movies are made in the West, so it's a calculated move to try and instantly create a musical shorthand with the audience. Music is just mathematically-organized noise after all. The score is there to give an instant impression and these impressions are going to be biased based on the region of their creation.
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Good answer, and just about sums it up. As a composer, you need to use the musical "grammar" that speaks to your audience.
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To summarize:
" That's racist"!
"You're a racist for pointing out racism"
"No, you're the racist".
And so it.goes...
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Yeah, labels like "racist" can be conversation killers.
Tribalism is hard wired into us as human beings. It's natural. We need to acknowledge that.
That said, it doesn't mean it shouldn't be actively discouraged, as it's very destructive. Look how the stoking of tribalistic fears has made even everyday discourse so difficult, particularly over the last few years. It's playing out in this thread.
Ironically, one of the stories that demonstrates to me how hard wired our tribalistic tendencies are is the one Charlton Heston shared about the set of the original Planet of the Apes. He described a situation where at lunch all the actors made up as chimps sat with the chimps, the actors made up as gorillas sat with the gorillas, and the actors made up as orangutans sat with the other orangutans. Under the costumes were people of all creeds, colors, and ethnic backgrounds. But they sorted themselves out on appearance above all.
We by nature identify and feel safest around those that look and think like us. It's a natural phenomenon.
I think the quicker we both acknowledge that and reduce the hysteria around it, the quicker we can overcome it.
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The Schuermann Anthropologist
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If anyone thinks Star Wars is racist, I hope they don't listen to Indiana Jones....... lol!
Yeah.
DOOM demeans TWO Asian cultures!
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This article also chooses the wrong arena to be focusing on representation of diversity. A film is a combination of many artforms, which is why film is such a powerful medium. But the film soundtrack is in service to the vision of the film - so I don't really see, other than the representation of bodies, how changing composers improves anything? If you have a different musical style, then that would actually be helpful in having a diversity of "voices" - but film music has to fit the film. But if you take Joe Hisaishi (to use the writer's example) and have him compose the exact same music for Star Wars, what has that accomplished? And does the music for badguys in Joe Hisaishi soundtracks means he is also painting a negative portrayal of the "east"?
Certain mediums of art make more sense for representation of diverse voices than others - the larger medium of music in general, literature, and films. And in hierarchically-produced art forms like film, the need is for diverse representation at the top, not the bottom. Film composers are not at the bottom, but in general their influence on a film doesn't reach out to the people making creative decisions.
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Diversity!!!!!#!
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Forgive me if this has already been posted on here and I had missed it, but have just come across this article claiming that Star Wars, and in particular, the soundtrack, is racist and that Williams' music reflects long-standing prejudices in American society. The article also claims that Jeffrey Chen, who wrote the article says that Williams and people like him (presumably white males) have no place in Hollywood.
https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/01/07/washington-post-publishes-article-claiming-star-wars-and-john-williams-score-reproduces-harmful-prejudices-in-pop-culture/
Jeffrey C Chen is one of the many full time idiots who shuffle out of bed sometime during the day wondering what utter garbage they can write knowing full well it is garbage yet their one aim is to cause the majority to discuss his written nonsense in great detail . While all this is going Chen sits on the sidelines laughing his pathetic head off wondering what further crap he can write .
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