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1/4' tapes are hardly the optimum sources for these (or any) recordings. Agreed but I admit I'm pretty happy with the 2015 Jaws album. A multitrack would probably deliver a noticeable difference but considering 2-channel CD quality and the acoustics for that specific project overall, it's really not bad.
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Such a tragedy. Interesting to learn that Nikki Finke and Lucas and everyone else who reported on things at the time was entirely correct, and the UMG press release was exactly the PR nonsense that some people were calling it for.
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And truth to tell there is really "nothing to see here." There is nothing in the piece that wasn't widely known ten years ago.
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It's just interesting to see how quick some people were to doubt Finke and call her names, and doubt all the others who were reporting in, believing the UMG press release instead. Now there's finally a definitive printed record that everyone except UMG was telling the heartbreaking truth.
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Isn't there a possibility that film scores could be in there? If the fire was in the same building as the copying office, then yes. That would be a real shame, as I have been trying to get all of Bernard Herrmann’s original manuscripts for the Alfred Hichcock Hour series for possible new recordings. I sure hope they didn't go up in flames Any updates Bill?
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Yes, before the hysteria sets in, let us first understand that Nikki Finke is one of the biggest idiots EVER. She is a hysteric about everything. A "source" told her. Her "sources" have proven time and time again to be completely inaccurate. So, wait until someone who actually knows something tells the story. [ clears throat]
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Who in hell is NIKKI FINKE? And why can't this gal get her facts straight? As I said above, Nikki Finke is one of the biggest idiots ever - a product of today's generation, one of these buttcheeks that just writes whatever she feels like and uses "sources" instead of any real info. Her diatribes on both the WGA and now the SAG contracts with the producers were a joke - she was consistently wrong about everything. Why the LA Weekly would publish this peckerwood is anyone's guess. She, like a lot of irresponsible journalists, is like the plague. [ clears throut Again ]
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My last job when I was living in L.A. was as Security for WB Records Warehouse. Zoob Was that before or after being in charge of security at Chernobyl?
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It's just interesting to see how quick some people were to doubt Finke and call her names, and doubt all the others who were reporting in, believing the UMG press release instead ...telling the heartbreaking truth. Some people? Who, for example?
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Again, the studio did not keep its music elements in that building, so no TV material was there. The only music material in there belonged to Universal Music Group, which was a separate company since 2004 and therefore was leasing the space. As there is no inventory there is no way to know what was lost and not lost, but it certainly wasn't everything because recently a 2-inch multi-track was found on a MCA re-recorded score album. (I do wish that had been found on Jaws.) What's also not mentioned is that while the fire was going on, a great deal of material was actually carried out of the building and therefore survived.
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The article is fascinating, I'm about 1/3 of the way through, it's SUPER long, but gripping. It's rare that, years after a major company transparently lies to the public and the media, a news organization is able to go through court records and other documents and track down former employees and detail the degree to which those lies were orchestrated. A sample: “We stuck to the script about physical backups and digital copies,” LoFrumento wrote in the email. The company, he claimed, had steered Jon Healey, a Los Angeles Times writer, toward a more favorable view: “We were able to turn Healey around on his L.A. Times editorial so it’s not a reprimand on what we didn’t do, but more of a pat on the back for what we did.” That editorial, published in the paper’s June 3 edition, offered comforting news: “At this point, it appears that the fire consumed no irreplaceable master recordings, just copies.”
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When I said there was "nothing to see here," I was trying to imply in not so many words that there is a smoking gun here. Now I'll just say it outright: there is a smoking gun. It's pretty close to falling into the category of "fake news." This is being stirred up because of an individual with an agenda. https://variety.com/2019/music/news/universal-music-disputes-severity-2008-vault-fire-new-york-times-1203239661/ And one more time: Music elements owned by Universal Studios were not stored in that building. That means no Spartacus masters, no TV material, etc. The only music tapes in that building were owned by Universal Music Group -- a completely and totally separate company since 2004, which leased the space because they hadn't gotten around to moving things off the lot yet. That means album material ONLY. That would include, of course, re-recordings of scores, but that doesn't mean the one and only copies were completely lost. Not only are there copies elsewhere, but a lot was taken out of the building during the incident.
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