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Hello Yavar,
Can you please publish an updated list for the 1960's episodes?
The previous list stopped at Freud (episode # 18).
Thanks.
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I will when I can. I stopped at Freud because one user here was concerned about how long it would take us to get to that score, and I was trying to assuage their worries that it would be a while.
But then we found some more commercially-unreleased stuff like the Playhouse 90s, which did push our timetable for getting to it a bit. There's even a chance we *maybe* have found The Lineup, which would be wonderful so that we don't leave any of the fine Prometheus Early Years disc uncovered. So I don't even know for sure what our next few episodes will be yet. I only know that the next one to drop will be A Marriage of Strangers (Playhouse 90) which we just recorded last night, and the next one to record is definitely going to be Tomorrow (Playhouse 90 -- the other one on the Early Years disc). After that, hopefully a Lineup (aka San Francisco Beat) episode and a 1950s wrap-up episode (featuring some rarities we haven't covered like the Peck's Bad Girl pilot and maybe another Climax, plus an overview/assessment of Jerry's work that decade, sans all the radio stuff we chose to put off until later).
And then Studs Lonigan and Have Gun - Will Travel (both awesome) start us out with the 60s. Hooray!
Yavar
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I will when I can. I stopped at Freud because one user here was concerned about how long it would take us to get to that score, and I was trying to assuage their worries that it would be a while.
Yavar
Well after listening to the shows since I've totally changed my mind about that. Take your time, there's too much cool stuff before then! 
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It's rather a "grab bag" sort of album, isn't it? Personally for my iTunes library I split it up into respective shows and even got individual cover art for each from my friend Brad Wills of this board. To me it is completely arbitrary to treat these many different unrelated things (even the two Playhouse 90 scores have nothing to do with each other) as some special "album listening experience" just because they fill out disc space together. It's a bit like asking us, "Why did you cover Seconds without also examining I.Q.?" because LLL released them both on an album together.
But the answer to your question is not actually related to my personal taste or preferences, but to the mission of our show itself. We are not an "album review show" -- if we were, we would not have produced our Episodes 0, 1, or 3, as no albums have ever been produced for Black Patch, Face of a Fugitive, or Jerry's early radio and TV work (with the sole exception of "The Thunder of Imperial Names" section of the CBS Radio Workshop episode, "1489 Words"). We are, as we clearly state, "A chronological journey through the filmography of composer Jerry Goldsmith."
Sure, I realize that this odyssey surveys films & television programs that do not have corresponding albums on their music. For such items as Black Patch we can only consider Goldsmith's music in situation with its visuals.
Nonetheless, your podcasts will eventually reach to films like The Blue Max and this title in particular might possess the most numerous album versions on any Goldsmith soundtrack.
I feel that, when The Blue Max is covered, your trio should speak about not only Goldsmith's music 'in situ' with the picture itself but also the multiple incarnations of its soundtrack [i.e. the Mainstream LP, the Citadel reissues, the early CD (Varese), the Sony CD, the Intrada CD, the La-La Land CD plus the new recording, etc.]
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Nonetheless, your podcasts will eventually reach to films like The Blue Max and this title in particular might possess the most numerous album versions on any Goldsmith soundtrack.
I feel that, when The Blue Max is covered, your trio will speak upon not only Goldsmith's music 'in situ' with the picture itself but also the multiple incarnations of its soundtrack [i.e. the Mainstream LP, the Citadel reissues, the early CD (Varese), the Sony CD, the Intrada CD, the La-La Land CD plus the new recording, etc.]
This is a great idea.
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Nonetheless, your podcasts will eventually reach to films like The Blue Max and this title in particular might possess the most numerous album versions on any Goldsmith soundtrack. I feel that, when The Blue Max is covered, your trio should speak about not only Goldsmith's music 'in situ' with the picture itself but also the multiple incarnations of its soundtrack.
I'm a little surprised there's concern, since we already set a precedent covering unused music in City of Fear. You can rest assured we'll do everything in our power to do The Blue Max justice. It is one of my all-time favorite scores, and IMHO director John Guillermin greatly harmed the legacy of his film by tossing the very best parts of it out. The Blue Max’s long legacy on CD and in the concert hall, thanks in great part to the championship of André Previn, further cements just how misguided Guillermin was in his creative choices. Thank goodness for the Twilight Time Blu-Ray giving us the opportunity to hear the full score properly synced to the movie. It’s a wonderful experience!
By the by, the same point applies to Ridley Scott’s Alien and bits of Legend. Directors doing harm to Jerry’s vision is definitely something I’ll want to touch on. We also have a plan in place for rejected scores, because skipping those would just be wrong.
On a related note, I've already promised James Fitzpatrick that we will discuss all of his re-recordings when we get to those scores.
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Nonetheless, your podcasts will eventually reach to films like The Blue Max and this title in particular might possess the most numerous album versions on any Goldsmith soundtrack. I feel that, when The Blue Max is covered, your trio should speak about not only Goldsmith's music 'in situ' with the picture itself but also the multiple incarnations of its soundtrack.
I'm a little surprised there's concern, since we already set a precedent covering unused music in City of Fear. You can rest assured we'll do everything in our power to do The Blue Max justice. It is one of my all-time favorite scores, and IMHO director John Guillermin greatly harmed the legacy of his film by tossing the very best parts of it out. The Blue Max’s long legacy on CD and in the concert hall, thanks in great part to the championship of André Previn, further cements just how misguided Guillermin was in his creative choices. Thank goodness for the Twilight Time Blu-Ray giving us the opportunity to hear the full score properly synced to the movie. It’s a wonderful experience!
By the by, the same point applies to Ridley Scott’s Alien and bits of Legend. Directors doing harm to Jerry’s vision is definitely something I’ll want to touch on. We also have a plan in place for rejected scores, because skipping those would just be wrong.
On a related note, I've already promised James Fitzpatrick that we will discuss all of his re-recordings when we get to those scores.
Ooo I want that Blue Max blu ray. Sometimes I wonder if that is my favorite JG score.
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I'm ready!
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May 10, 2018 - 9:13 AM
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Rollin Hand
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Episode 5 - A Marriage of Strangers (Playhouse 90)
http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/700742-episode-5-a-marriage-of-strangers-playhouse-90
In this episode, we take a look at “A Marriage of Strangers”, an installment of the 90-minute CBS anthology series Playhouse 90. Your humble hosts Jens, Yavar, and Clark discuss the unique nature of this series, the teleplay's struggle to create a persuasively authentic portrait of a marriage, the challenges of writing music for live television, and – of course – the tender Jerry Goldsmith score. Offering a pair of memorable themes (one melancholy, one romantic) and some moments of surprising tension, “A Marriage of Strangers” is the longest Goldsmith score we’ve covered to date. Additionally, we dip into the mailbag and briefly discuss a bit of listener feedback. Put this episode around your finger and join us!
The Work
Jerry Goldsmith: The Early Years, Volume 1 (at Screen Archives)
TRACKS 1-2: Playhouse 90: “Marriage Of Strangers” (TV Series, 1956)
1. A New Home (04:02) > listen to it at http://images.sae-cdn.com/media/8307-5100.mp3
2. Wedding Dinner (04:09)
In Depth
Jerry Goldsmith interviewed by Jon Burlingame for the Archive of American Television (May 8th, 2012)
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I'm ready!
And so are we! The issues have been resolved and the episode is now available in full (128) bitrate. Jens worked tirelessly with Buzzsprout to fix the issues. Hope you guys enjoy our latest (and longest) episode, covering Jerry Goldsmith's longest score to date! (That we know of, that is.) I can't wait to find out what cue you heard reused in The Twilight Zone, Graham -- we've featured *almost* every cue in the score in this podcast, only editing some for time and omitting a few more transitional cues which were largely similar to other cues we discussed.
Oh, and to follow the theme, "If you like it then you better put a ring on it!" -- if you're enjoying our humble program, please do consider writing us a positive iTunes review! (As usual, we are open to all other comments & criticism at mail@goldsmithodyssey.com.)
Yavar
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To say nothing about time-poor! All three of us have full time jobs and squeeze in our often considerable amount of prep time when we can.
Also, since it's Jerry Goldsmith, I'm sure if established labels like LLL, Intrada, Quartet, or Kritzerland have trouble putting something out, it would stump us much more. I feel certain that they will do everything that can be done as far as tackling his surviving recordings. I suspect CBS materials for old and long-running shows may just take longer.
Yavar
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You, guys, should unite your dollars and launch your label to release some rare Goldsmith's scores.
Keep up the good work!
We are music-rich but money-poor, I'm afraid. I'm already putting a bunch of my disposable income into making/hosting the show.
Your efforts are very much appreciated and admired! Can't wait to tune in later.
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