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 Posted:   Oct 11, 2023 - 5:34 AM   
 By:   martyn.crosthwaite   (Member)

I’m reading it that “the later recordings” refers to Plummer’s end-of-production re-record, and not his original playback recordings
Thanks for clarification.....

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2023 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

I’m so torn on where to order from. Amazon has been so hit or miss on things being shipped by the release date. The date they gave me for John Carpenter Anthology II is late November. And I ordered as soon as the link became available. But then again, sometimes the label’s store takes even longer to ship. Decisions, decisions.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2023 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)


I’m so torn on where to order from. Amazon has been so hit or miss on things being shipped by the release date. The date they gave me for John Carpenter Anthology II is late November. And I ordered as soon as the link became available. But then again, sometimes the label’s store takes even longer to ship. Decisions, decisions.


I vote for ordering it from the source. Give them more support. And I didn't even see a release like this coming, so what is a little longer wait compared to nothing at all?

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2023 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

Yes, we have the Plummer vocals for the three songs he recorded at the end of production.

For those interested, I speak about the release briefly with Tim Sika on "Celluloid Dreams" today. It's on KSJS San Jose every Friday at 2:00 p.m. Pacific. More in-depth discussion will follow closer to the release.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2023 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

https://soundcloud.com/user-782049152/the-sound-of-music-special-deluxe-edition-with-mike-matessino-all-new-movie-reviews-10-12-23

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2023 - 11:03 PM   
 By:   deepscan   (Member)

ALERT about this year’s airing of THE SOUND OF MUSIC…

As the networks are beginning to announce their Christmas TV schedules for the season, “The Happiest Sound in All The World” may not resound on TV this Holiday season. As it currently stands, the current rights issues between 20th and R&H that Mike Matessino alluded to may keep the beloved classic musical off our TV screens this December. It has been around 20-some years since the film has not been on television. So if you have that blu ray or DVD on your shelf, prepare to dust it off in case those rights issues keep Maria from singing in the hills on ABC in a few weeks.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2023 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   deepscan   (Member)

If Mike Mattesino can confirm this…I have heard word that Disney/20th has somehow lost the rights to the classic film. If this is so, this would be the first time in nearly two decades that THE SOUND OF MUSIC has not been shown on television or in theatres. Is it in litigation? Is there no renewal of rights to this film? Hopefully this mystery will be solved as soon as possible. Until then, we will have to rely on our DVDs, Blu Rays, LaserDiscs, and VHS’ of the film to watch this holiday season.

I still plan to buy the new soundtrack, though.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2023 - 7:51 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

If Mike Mattesino can confirm this…I have heard word that Disney/20th has somehow lost the rights to the classic film. If this is so, this would be the first time in nearly two decades that THE SOUND OF MUSIC has not been shown on television or in theatres. Is it in litigation? Is there no renewal of rights to this film? Hopefully this mystery will be solved as soon as possible. Until then, we will have to rely on our DVDs, Blu Rays, LaserDiscs, and VHS’ of the film to watch this holiday season.

I still plan to buy the new soundtrack, though.


I don’t know if they’ve lost the rights to Sound of Music, but Fox/Disney definitely lost the rights to Oklahoma and South Pacific, which have been acquired by Samuel Goldwyn Films.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/rodgers-hammerstein-south-pacific-oklahoma-samuel-goldwyn-films-concord-originals-1235759011/

Going a little more on-topic, the R&H Organization’s YouTube channel uploaded the alternate version of Something Good with Christopher Plummer’s vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcf8hpyONEI

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2023 - 10:30 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I don’t know if they’ve lost the rights to Sound of Music, but Fox/Disney definitely lost the rights to Oklahoma and South Pacific, which have been acquired by Samuel Goldwyn Films.


As noted earlier, Samuel Goldwyn had the rights to those two films forty years ago, and now they've reacquired the rights.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2023 - 11:08 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

Are the CD versions of these sets already sold out while they're still only in preorders?

I was waiting until it got closer to release date to decide on a retailer to order this from.

Someone on another forum said today that it was sold out in all CD forms, and I went to the Craft Recordings website, and it's apparently true:

https://craftrecordings.com/collections/the-sound-of-music



(The LP set is still available)

I found the Super Deluxe CD set on Amazon, and was able to get a preorder in there, where it's still listed. I hope they honor my preorder:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CK1BR7PD

I didn't see text in the various press releases to say that the CD editions were "limited," they only mentioned that a special “Picnic Meadow Green” LP set would be limited to 500 copies.

I hope this won't end up being like Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, where the LPs sit, perpetually available and unwanted, while the CDs go for hundreds of dollars on eBay, because they sold out before they ever became available.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 4:39 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

Amazon CD preorders are still up.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CK1BR7PD

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CK1GF67P?tag=concordreco0c-20

Concorde also included a link to the Record Store Day website in their original press release (first page of this thread), to any number of indie shops that are taking preorders. Seems like this will be a pretty wide release - just that they’ve sold through what they’re getting in their own shop (or at least their first shipment).

It also looks like Craft currently has the CD deluxe available for preorder, https://craftrecordings.com/collections/the-sound-of-music/products/the-sound-of-music-5cd-super-deluxe-edition-box-set
, and only has the 2-disc version listed as sold out.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

It also looks like Craft currently has the CD deluxe available for preorder, https://craftrecordings.com/collections/the-sound-of-music/products/the-sound-of-music-5cd-super-deluxe-edition-box-set
, and only has the 2-disc version listed as sold out.


Bizarre, the Super Deluxe edition was listed as sold out 6 hours ago.

Glad it's back. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 5:11 AM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

Craft now has a warning notice on their website:

"WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING TO A NEW WAREHOUSE FACILITY, AND WE APOLOGIZE THAT MANY ITEMS MAY BE UNAVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE DURING THIS TIME. WE'LL BE BACK UP AND RUNNING VERY SOON. THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE!"

It's not letting me complete a preorder transaction to either my apartment or my office.

It's saying: "Shipping not available. Your order cannot be shipped to the selected address. Review your address to ensure it's correct and try again, or select a different address."

I tried two entirely different valid addresses, that makes no sense.

It looks like the website won't allow preorders to be placed, though it lists the item as available again.

Hope they still have the Super Deluxe edition available once their website is working again.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

This just seems like bad luck timing. The Super Deluxe Edition is not limited from a licensing standpoint. The material is now fully covered for perpetuity. I haven't heard anything about a limit to how many Super Deluxe sets with the book are actually being made, so if it becomes unavailable at any point it will be an out-of-stock issue, not out-of-print. I can only imagine it's an involved item to put together. I haven't physically seen one myself yet.

As for the movie rights, the renewal process between R&H & 20th is moving along and will, I'm told, be wrapped up soon.

The King and I is subject to the same periodic renewal deal, while 20th controls State Fair and Carousel fully. Oklahoma! and South Pacific are owned by Goldwyn/R&H and 20th's distribution of those is basically an extension to the studio's original involvement with the 35mm version theatrical distribution. For simplicity more than anything else, 20th and R&H formed a cooperative to keep all six in the market, often packaged together, but now that it's Disney and Concord the playing field is a little different than it used to be.

And we're strictly talking movie rights here. Soundtracks are another matter. Disney would have phono rights for State Fair. South Pacific is with Sony Music (RCA Victor), and the others would be with UMG (Capitol).

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   Phil567   (Member)

Is it possible to buy just disc 4 in order to get the instrumental versions of the songs?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   David Brynskov   (Member)

It states here that the Festival reprise of 'Do-Re-Mi' is not complete...
...as I have found the time references...

— 39. Do-Re-Mi (Festival Reprise) – Julie Andrews (1:11)

— 81. Do-Re-Mi (Festival Reprise / Instrumental Version) (1:00)

I was hoping for a two minute version (at least)... because in the film; it begins halfway...

What happened to the opening of that version?

I'm sure it wasn't recorded that way?

Or do we need to edit our own versions?

Anyone interested... here are the time references:

https://filmmusicreporter.com/2023/09/27/the-sound-of-music-super-deluxe-edition-soundtrack-album-announced/


The full version heard in the stage show was not recorded for the movie. The tracks are what they are and presented as recorded. The film version has an orchestra intro, which is a repeat of the start from "I Have Confidence," and that bit is not repeated for track 81.


Just like the 30th Anniversary CD, No tracking of "I Have Confidence", this time with vocals (as originally intended). Also I believe you are aware that there is not an Instrumental Version of the "My Favorite Things (Reprise)" [found exclusively in the Commentary by Robert Wise/Isolated Score on 30th AE LD, DVDs and BDs].

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   David Brynskov   (Member)

Soundtracks are another matter. Disney would have phono rights for State Fair.

Including the 1962 remake? (I am aware of the TT BD's Isolated Score [I take my hat off for your efforts of bringing unreleased numbers and "Our State Fair (Main Title)" completely instrumental (the Varese Album only had chorus sans [without] Pat Boone, Tom Ewell and Alice Faye vocals [as heard in the film and the Dot Records album]) into the public] and the majority of the music numbers are more or less based on the 1999 Varese Album)

Have lots to say about "State Fair" (1962), but I think you can take it from here.

Thank you. :-)

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 10:53 PM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

Just like the 30th Anniversary CD, No tracking of "I Have Confidence", this time with vocals (as originally intended). Also I believe you are aware that there is not an Instrumental Version of the "My Favorite Things (Reprise)" [found exclusively in the Commentary by Robert Wise/Isolated Score on 30th AE LD, DVDs and BDs].

The instrumental intro to "I Have Confidence" is included as part of the main program version of "Do-Re-Mi (Festival Reprise)" but not for the orchestra only version.

There is no orchestral version of "My Favorite Things (Reprise)" because the tracks did not exist in a way that could be presented. On the video releases, it's a Music & Effects track.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2023 - 1:48 AM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

Both CD editions are listed as SOLD OUT again at Craft.

https://craftrecordings.com/collections/the-sound-of-music

They were briefly in stock for the last day or so, but once you put them in your basket, it was not possible to actually complete a purchase. I tried multiple times, to multiple addresses.

I get that they have their warning about moving warehouses, but it's weird that the SOLD OUT status keeps going back and forth.

At least I still have a preorder through Amazon.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2023 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   David Brynskov   (Member)

The instrumental intro to "I Have Confidence" is included as part of the main program version of "Do-Re-Mi (Festival Reprise)" but not for the orchestra only version.

There is no orchestral version of "My Favorite Things (Reprise)" because the tracks did not exist in a way that could be presented. On the video releases, it's a Music & Effects track.


As a nerd in Film/Music, staying true to the Composer's Original (or Isolated) Score,

A:

Film Mix: Tracked Intro
30th AE: Full Number [taken from Master Tapes, I believe] (No Tracked Intro [Composer Intended Way, maybe?)
40th AE: Tail-end of Tracked Intro (taken from the Film Mix)
50th AE: Tail-end of Tracked Intro (taken from the Film Mix)

B: I'm aware of that.

 
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