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 Posted:   Sep 23, 2019 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)


As to the music, every few years we get a new flavor like Max Richter. And obviously some of this score is already existing pieces by other composers whose music was used on the temp-track. It's idiocy, frankly, and what makes every one of these films sound the same.


Please enlighten me as to how Max Richter is "a new flavor".

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2019 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   Loverozsa   (Member)

I enjoyed the film but the "music", if you can call it that, was a travesty. Mostly droning with little or no melodic or thematic structure. I would love to have seen what a Goldsmith or William would have done with this.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2019 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   JJH   (Member)

They'd have written a droney score in service to the director's wishes no doubt.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2019 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I enjoyed the film but the "music", if you can call it that, was a travesty. Mostly droning with little or no melodic or thematic structure. I would love to have seen what a Goldsmith or William would have done with this.

me too, but realistically they would have written a real score, and it would have replaced with this wallpaper noise

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2019 - 11:17 PM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

So, will there be more than the current one track release for the score?

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

I was hoping to like the movie but so much of the action was nonsensical, the final confrontation with Tommy Lee Jones had no impact and they buried the lede in terms of why Jones' character lost it and what the whole point of the story was, which seemed to be tossed off in a couple of mumbled lines of dialogue. I appreciated that they got out to Neptune (although that's not where the heliosphere ends, one of numerous scientific problems this "realistic" sci-fi movie had...) but on the whole it was a slog...

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

So, will there be more than the current one track release for the score?

Just play it on loop; problem solved.

Or … just supplement with practically any other over-hyped, impersonal, D&D* score of the past decade. You really won't know the difference.

* Drones & Drums

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

Faults and all I enjoyed Ad Astra. Thought the music played fine within the film. That said I don't recall any of it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 11:47 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

So, will there be more than the current one track release for the score?

Just play it on loop; problem solved.

Or … just supplement with practically any other over-hyped, impersonal, D&D* score of the past decade. You really won't know the difference.

* Drones & Drums


roll eyes

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   No Respectable Gentleman   (Member)

I was hoping to like the movie but so much of the action was nonsensical, the final confrontation with Tommy Lee Jones had no impact and they buried the lede in terms of why Jones' character lost it and what the whole point of the story was, which seemed to be tossed off in a couple of mumbled lines of dialogue. I appreciated that they got out to Neptune (although that's not where the heliosphere ends, one of numerous scientific problems this "realistic" sci-fi movie had...) but on the whole it was a slog...

I'm assuming that they (sort of) resolved the mystery of the electro-magnetic pulses (because the Wikipedia plot breakdown says so) but in truth I personally can't remember because the "explanation" was so desultory. I think I lost concentration. Later I wondered if the whole McGuffin -- raising the stakes to a galaxy-ending threat -- had been worked into the film during the lengthy editing process, or perhaps via reshoots. I'm thinking here of the original STAR WARS, where the whole notion that the Death Star was lining up to destroy the rebel base -- thus making its destruction a race against time -- was cobbled together in the editing room.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I was hoping to like the movie but so much of the action was nonsensical, the final confrontation with Tommy Lee Jones had no impact and they buried the lede in terms of why Jones' character lost it and what the whole point of the story was, which seemed to be tossed off in a couple of mumbled lines of dialogue. I appreciated that they got out to Neptune (although that's not where the heliosphere ends, one of numerous scientific problems this "realistic" sci-fi movie had...) but on the whole it was a slog...

I'm assuming that they (sort of) resolved the mystery of the electro-magnetic pulses (because the Wikipedia plot breakdown says so) but in truth I personally can't remember because the "explanation" was so desultory. I think I lost concentration. Later I wondered if the whole McGuffin -- raising the stakes to a galaxy-ending threat -- had been worked into the film during the lengthy editing process, or perhaps via reshoots. I'm thinking here of the original STAR WARS, where the whole notion that the Death Star was lining up to destroy the rebel base -- thus making its destruction a race against time -- was cobbled together in the editing room.


It is a real mixed bag, there is some good writing, and then is some horrendous stuff.

This is a bad spot. Where they have his dad mumble something about a fight, it caused an accident, and this accident might destroy the whole universe. It is just not well done, it is not a plausible pitch in the narrative at this point. We make our way from an Earth about to turn to ash, and we find the source of it is this homeless looking dude that killed his co workers mumbling about an accident. It comes off as freshman class screenwriting at best, very B grade

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I was hoping to like the movie but so much of the action was nonsensical, the final confrontation with Tommy Lee Jones had no impact and they buried the lede in terms of why Jones' character lost it and what the whole point of the story was, which seemed to be tossed off in a couple of mumbled lines of dialogue. I appreciated that they got out to Neptune (although that's not where the heliosphere ends, one of numerous scientific problems this "realistic" sci-fi movie had...) but on the whole it was a slog...

Slog is a perfect word for it, by the time I got the this spot with his dad, I was very ready for it to be over, unless something really interesting happened, and it turned into a lifetime movie moment with his dad. Just a terribly written end to the movie.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   Tom Maguire   (Member)

I was hoping to like the movie but so much of the action was nonsensical, the final confrontation with Tommy Lee Jones had no impact and they buried the lede in terms of why Jones' character lost it and what the whole point of the story was, which seemed to be tossed off in a couple of mumbled lines of dialogue. I appreciated that they got out to Neptune (although that's not where the heliosphere ends, one of numerous scientific problems this "realistic" sci-fi movie had...) but on the whole it was a slog...

Exact same reaction.
At a point less than half way through I was just waiting for it to end.
The list of terribly inaccurate science is lengthy - heliosphere, apparently being in-doors is all that's required for Earth-like gravity on the moon and mars, Pitt's character is seemingly impervious to all damage including rocket engines... etc etc.
And I could forgive most of this if the story or the characters were clearly defined or engaging. But they're not.
And then the story takes several shifts in tone, namely when it becomes Mad Max on the Moon and then later with the Zero G Killer Space Monkees... They were only missing helmets and Lasers for full Congo Effect. Oy.
84% on Rottentomatos? What are these critics smoking. This movie was a mess.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 6:30 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)


As to the music, every few years we get a new flavor like Max Richter. And obviously some of this score is already existing pieces by other composers whose music was used on the temp-track. It's idiocy, frankly, and what makes every one of these films sound the same.


Please enlighten me as to how Max Richter is "a new flavor".


I have to enlighten you? I don't think so. He IS a new flavor in films of the last several years. You know it, I know it, and Mr. Richter knows it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)


As to the music, every few years we get a new flavor like Max Richter. And obviously some of this score is already existing pieces by other composers whose music was used on the temp-track. It's idiocy, frankly, and what makes every one of these films sound the same.


Please enlighten me as to how Max Richter is "a new flavor".


I have to enlighten you? I don't think so. He IS a new flavor in films of the last several years. You know it, I know it, and Mr. Richter knows it.


roll eyes

Considering Richter has been scoring movies for well over a decade, yes, you need to enlighten me as to how you can consider him a "new flavor".

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Pedestrian Wolf   (Member)


As to the music, every few years we get a new flavor like Max Richter. And obviously some of this score is already existing pieces by other composers whose music was used on the temp-track. It's idiocy, frankly, and what makes every one of these films sound the same.


Please enlighten me as to how Max Richter is "a new flavor".


I have to enlighten you? I don't think so. He IS a new flavor in films of the last several years. You know it, I know it, and Mr. Richter knows it.


Richter's one of the most important post-minimalist concert and art music composers of the new millenium, and he's been writing acclaimed operas, ballets, experimental albums, mixed media projects, and yes, films since the early 2000s. Even the piece that's recently started appearing in every other film, "On the Nature of Daylight", is a piece from 2004. I guess you could call him a new flavor if you apply that word to everybody who's still current and relevant, but he's not some kid who lucked into movies a few years ago.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Maybe hains just means he doesn't care for his music that much.

 
 Posted:   Oct 3, 2019 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Maybe hains just means he doesn't care for his music that much.

Or maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 16, 2019 - 3:10 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I wrote this on t'other side of the board, but thought I would add it here, too.
------------------------------
I finally managed to catch this last night, before it went off UK cinema screens for good.
I really enjoyed the first hour, despite it's heavy leanings towards GRAVITY (the opening sequence) and APOCALYPSE NOW meets INTERSTELLAR.
But the second hour!!! (SPOILERS!!!)
Well, it all begins to unravel somewhat (from when he swims under Mars in spacesuit and climbs aboard the blasting off spaceship) and by the time of the quite ludicrous final act, all the good will the film has built up is blown apart, just like that nuclear explosion in space that sends Brad Pitt all the way back home (conveniently bypassing Mars and the Moon - AND food for that matter) to the arms of his (estranged?) love interest.
It's the most ridiculous final act I've seen in some time.
I almost wish they had been a bit more ambiguous and at the point when he's floating, lost in space, and he sees that light*, everything AFTER that - that we see - is the dead Brad Pitt reconciling his life/mistakes on his journey 'home'.
Technically, it's VERY good and I loved the sad, string piece by Max Richter, that was threaded throughout the film.
But otherwise, it was a massive missed opportunity for me, despite my enjoying many elements of it.
Maybe with some reflection, the 'deeper' human message will resonate some more with me.
Certainly the To The Stars/Max Richter theme helps that aspect of proceedings enormously.

*what does happen had me thinking, at one point, he was gonna surf through the belt/rocks to the tune of Benson Arizona. I also half expected earth to be populated by talking apes, when he finally touched back down.

 
 Posted:   Oct 17, 2019 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Richter's score album appears to be coming out tomorrow.

 
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