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 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 5:13 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Goransson made a brilliant piece of art with this score. Absolutely tremendous! He should win the Oscar imho. Vinyl=Sale!!

Ooo the vinyl is tempting...

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 5:59 AM   
 By:   mikecee1   (Member)

https://www.disneystudiosawards.com/black-panther/score

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

15 tracks in and that went nowhere. Lots of pounding noise, a few motifs, no cohesion. Blandorama.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I would buy a single disc
Cd.
Nuff said#!!!!

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Well, I gave the score a listen. It's good imo...but I feel like I've heard better (Avengers, Iron Man 1 and 3, Infinity War) and MUCH better (First Avenger).

The composer did a fine job...perhaps my meh at the movie is influencing my listening. And I really don't plan on watching that recycled drek of a movie again (btw I was a Panther fan back in the 70s...the comics; so I was super disappointed in the film).

No offense fans, really.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   jwb1   (Member)

Black Panther is one of the more interesting scores to come out of Marvel films. Great work that deserves a disc release.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Well, I gave the score a listen. It's good imo...but I feel like I've heard better (Avengers, Iron Man 1 and 3, Infinity War) and MUCH better (First Avenger).

The composer did a fine job...perhaps my meh at the movie is influencing my listening. And I really don't plan on watching that recycled drek of a movie again (btw I was a Panther fan back in the 70s...the comics; so I was super disappointed in the film).


No offense fans, really.


Glad to see you praise TFA.
That and AVENGERS are the creme de la creme!

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Well, I gave the score a listen. It's good imo...but I feel like I've heard better (Avengers, Iron Man 1 and 3, Infinity War) and MUCH better (First Avenger).

The composer did a fine job...perhaps my meh at the movie is influencing my listening. And I really don't plan on watching that recycled drek of a movie again (btw I was a Panther fan back in the 70s...the comics; so I was super disappointed in the film).

No offense fans, really.


I reacted the same upon the first viewing but watched it several more times, and with each viewing, I came to appreciate the film more and more.

Goransson did an admirable job of fusing various genres together. There's the percussive African material, the Hip Hop 808 for Killmonger (underscoring his American roots), and the brass statement which I think is quite memorable and is quoted/varied throughout the score. In fact there is a fair bit of development of key themes and motives, surprising for Marvel music fare to be sure.

However, I do think people toss around the word "genius" too liberally these days. Film composer geniuses to me are limited to Bernard Herrmann because of how he created a new musical-cinematic language that did not draw on the late 19th century masters. Goldsmith is a close second. Korngold, Williams, Rosza, Tiomkin, North, etc etc are all masterful examples of technique and inspiration, but their music still draws from what they knew rather than forging into a new direction. Of course this is debatable and I've once again wandered off topic....

Do I think Black Panther is one of the best scores from 2018? Yes. Is it as musically sophisticated as say John Powell's HTTYD: The Hidden World? No. But as we both know, it's not just pure music content that determines a score's viability and effectiveness. If I want really meaty listening, I turn to Shostakovich or Bruckner or Mahler or Stravinsky etc etc.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Dave is correct about Bennie and Jerry.
Morricone also fits that category. Although he might be sui generis.
Talent plus innovation equals genius!
Brm

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2019 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Dave is correct about Bennie and Jerry.
Morricone also fits that category. Although he might be sui generis.
Talent plus innovation equals genius!
Brm


Agreed. What Morricone did for westerns was innovative and defined a new music language for that genre. I also think his score for The Thing is absolutely amazing and a wonderful tribute to Bartok.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2019 - 7:59 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

http://filmmusicreporter.com/2019/02/24/ludwig-goransson-wins-academy-award-for-black-panther/
Congrats to Ludwig Göransson on his oscar win. Black Panther is the first score to a superhero movie to win an oscar. It's also the first score to an MCU movie to win an oscar (let alone be nominated) for best original score.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2019 - 9:07 PM   
 By:   Glenn Butler   (Member)

I figured the race was between Black Panther and Mary Poppins 2, and am quite satisfied that Black Panther won it. I found it to be the most engaging and most tuneful score among the nominees, not to mention the inventive percussion & vocals.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2019 - 9:33 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I've been predicting that MARY POPPINS RETURNS would walk away with this award. So happy to be wrong and that the year's actual best score won. Congrats to Ludwig Göransson.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2019 - 9:47 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

...it's also the first score to an MCU movie to win an oscar (let alone be nominated) for best original score.

Big deal!

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2019 - 11:18 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I've been predicting that MARY POPPINS RETURNS would walk away with this award. So happy to be wrong and that the year's actual best score won. Congrats to Ludwig Göransson.

Interestingly, Mary Poppins Returns was never favored to win best score, in any of the polls or articles that I read. It was always between Black Panther, Blackkklansman or Beale Street.

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2019 - 12:47 AM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

I can't believe it! Nowadays I couldn't care less for the Oscars, but I must admit this year they surprised me a lot.

First, an Oscar for JOHN OTTMAN (albeit in another category). Very nice and I believe he deserves it. Probably from now on he will continue his work mostly as an editor rather than a composer, but still.

Best music to BLACK PANTHER. Now that's a huge surprise for me. Not because I don't like the music (quite the contrary, it's my favourite among the nominees), but because of the genre, somehow neglected by the Academy in the music category.

What I hope is that this Oscar helps big bold symphonic music to return to its rightfull place, as the effective standard which brings dramatic sense and emotional coherence to this otherwise overblown art form.

And let's hope they will finally release a bloody physical CD!!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2019 - 1:22 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Ottman said in a recent interview that his first love will always be writing music for films and that would trump everything, everytime.

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2019 - 2:04 AM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • http://filmmusicreporter.com/2019/02/24/ludwig-goransson-wins-academy-award-for-black-panther/
    Congrats to Ludwig Göransson on his oscar win. Black Panther is the first score to a superhero movie to win an oscar.


    ... friggin Midnight Express.... mad

  • What I hope is that this Oscar helps big bold symphonic music to return to its rightfull place, as the effective standard which brings dramatic sense and emotional coherence to this otherwise overblown art form.

    A CD would help... frown

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     Posted:   Feb 25, 2019 - 2:45 AM   
     By:   townerbarry   (Member)

    I Voted for If Beale Street Could Talk...Nicholas Britell.

    It was the best score in that category.

     
     
     Posted:   Feb 25, 2019 - 2:48 AM   
     By:   DannyBiker   (Member)


    First, an Oscar for JOHN OTTMAN (albeit in another category). Very nice and I believe he deserves it.


    I think you might need to review your expectations regarding editing : https://twitter.com/gagadaily/status/1099856926979096577?s=09

     
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