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 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

There was an LP released back in 80/81, and that LP contents is all that GNP and BSX have released on CD from Horner's score.

To my mind, if the worst performance issues are corrected by Intrada (which looks likely based on the sample clip video), then Horner may have been more happy to see it released in expanded form.

IMHO sometimes composers are more critical of their work than their fans, and are not necessarily the best judge as to what deserves to be out there and celebrated.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 3:31 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


IMHO sometimes composers are more critical of their work than their fans, and are not necessarily the best judge as to what deserves to be out there and celebrated.


Here! Here!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

And its up.



World premiere of complete James Horner early space opera soundtrack! Following on the heels of Intrada’s expanded release of Humanoids From The Deep is James Horner’s wildly popular early outer space epic, scored in 1980 when the young composer’s career was literally just getting underway. Highlights from the score were released on vinyl at the time, and that program has appeared numerous times on CD. Now Intrada is proud to finally present the entire score, newly expanded and remastered from the actual 2” 24-track recording session masters for the first time ever! Details in the recording come through with stunning clarity and power previously not available. In addition to the familiar cues, this new edition also offers many cues previously not released, including the powerful early cues for the “Hammerhead” and the “Sniper’s, Fire!” sequences. Other exciting new pieces include “Dr. Hephaestus’s Station”, “The Destruction Of Umateal”, “Kidnapped!” and many others, all in splendid stereo sound. The performance on the original release was less than perfect, but with current state-of-the-art technology, engineers Douglass Fake and Chris Malone were able to meticulously address some of the errant notes, particularly in the high trumpet parts. The complete score runs over an hour on CD 1. Intrada will be releasing it digitally as well. For fans of the popular original 1980 program, we have included that album as well, newly remastered on CD 2. And vinyl collectors can enjoy this expanded edition from the Shout! Factory label. Jimmy T. Murakami & Roger Corman directed this outer space fantasy in the wake of the exploding popularity of Star Wars and the many imitations that followed. Drawing inspiration from the famous Seven Samurai and Magnificent Seven feature films, the script from John Sayles now set the action in outer space, with Richard Thomas, Robert Vaughn, John Saxon, Sybil Danning starring and George Peppard grabbing the spotlight as “Cowboy”. Another asset: the special effects feature the imaginative early work of James Cameron. Initially released through Roger Corman’s New World Pictures, the movie was a modest box office hit. Trivia of interest: Bill Paxton was then working as a carpenter on the set. Horner’s energetic score was literally a launch pad for his later Star Trek II and Krull scores. David Newman conducts the orchestra, James Horner composes. Intrada Special Collection 2-CD set available while quantities and interest remain!

Track List

CD 1 The Score

01. Main Title (2:03)
02. Hammerhead (3:37)
03. Snipers, Fire! (1:19)
04. Shad’s Entrance (0:58)
05. First Flight (3:51)
06. Dr. Hephaestus’s Station (2:57)
07. First Conversation (4:16)
08. Jackers Ahead! (3:37)
09. The Destruction Of Umateal (1:22)
10. Nanelia’s Capture (1:31)
11. We Cruise For Akir! (1:32)
12. Kidnapped! (1:25)
13. Nascosto Flyaway (0:28)
14. Gelt’s Kill (2:32)
15. Hammerhead Stinger II (0:32)
16. Love Theme (1:35)
17. The Alarm Sounds (0:40)
18. Space Battle (4:36)
19. Battle In The Maze (2:25)
20. Zed’s Death (3:13)
21. Gelt Dies (1:31)
22. Shad And Nanelia (1:29)
23. Another Space Battle (1:00)
24. St. Exmin’s Death (1:33)
25. Cowboy Attacks (1:47)
26. Destruction Of Hammerhead (5:56)
27. Epilog/End Title (5:08)

Total Score Time: 62:53

THE EXTRA

28. Gelt’s Chamber Music (1:35)

CD 1 Total Time: 64:28

CD 2 Original 1980 Soundtrack Album

01. Main Title (2:00)
02. Malmori Rear Guard (3:51)
03. The Battle Begins (3:31)
04. Shad And Nanelia (1:29)
05. Cowboy And The Jackers (3:37)
06. Nanelia’s Capture (1:28)
07. The Maze Battle (3:10)
08. Shad’s Pursuit (3:22)
09. Cowboy’s Attack (1:44)
10. Love Theme (3:52)
11. The Hunter (1:38)
12. Gelt’s Death (1:28)
13. Nanelia (1:32)
14. Heading For Sador (0:59)
15. Destruction Of Hammerhead (2:35)
16. Epilogue / End Title (5:03)

CD 2 Total Time: 42:39

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

So big takeaways:

*20 minute expansion
*Problematic performances corrected
*Available on vinyl and digital as well

Man, what a treat, y'all. Major kudos!

EDIT:

Its so striking to me listening to the samples exactly how much of Horner was just HERE in his third film score.

That twinkling piano motif in the beginning of "First Fight" (aka Malmori Rear Guard) would show up as late as Flight. The Cowboy motif would show up as late as Avatar (in "Into the Na'vi World," a cue for Jake's first view of Pandora that went unused in the film but was on the movie's website).

And of course an example of a major classical lift. The evil motif in the low brass is straight from the pages of Alexander Nevsky (Battle on the Ice). Of course the motif it plays against in Nevsky would show up in Braveheart of all places. But that's another story.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

Oh did I order this quick.

Those samples are pretty jaw-dropping.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 5:52 PM   
 By:   Hedji   (Member)

Ordered!

So how groundbreaking is the performance correction? I know sometimes a damaged portion of tape may be frankensteined with another take or part. I guess I’m wondering how common this is. Does anyone feel it’s mildly controversial or revisionist? Ultimately I think it’s probably a good thing, but film purists get touchy about this sort of correction when it comes to video.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 6:00 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Ordered!

So how groundbreaking is the performance correction? I know sometimes a damaged portion of tape may be frankensteined with another take or part. I guess I’m wondering how common this is. Does anyone feel it’s mildly controversial or revisionist? Ultimately I think it’s probably a good thing, but film purists get touchy about this sort of correction when it comes to video.


If this was truly Horner’s hold-up with an expanded release—and it’s been clamored for for as long as I’ve been collecting scores—maybe some smoothing over was the condition from the estate for a new release. It gives film score fans what they want while respecting James’ wants.

Just idle speculation on my part.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Ordered!

So how groundbreaking is the performance correction? I know sometimes a damaged portion of tape may be frankensteined with another take or part. I guess I’m wondering how common this is. Does anyone feel it’s mildly controversial or revisionist? Ultimately I think it’s probably a good thing, but film purists get touchy about this sort of correction when it comes to video.



It’s a good question and worth discussing. I do feel films are falling victim to revisionism and it’s something to be aware of when working on soundtracks. It depends on the intent and eventual outcome. I’m of course buying this though.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

Ordered!

So how groundbreaking is the performance correction? I know sometimes a damaged portion of tape may be frankensteined with another take or part. I guess I’m wondering how common this is. Does anyone feel it’s mildly controversial or revisionist? Ultimately I think it’s probably a good thing, but film purists get touchy about this sort of correction when it comes to video.



It’s a good question and worth discussing. I do feel films are falling victim to revisionism and it’s something to be aware of when working on soundtracks. It depends on the intent and eventual outcome. I’m of course buying this though.


I don't think it's been done all that often, but it was done for Superman IV for the Blue Box, so it is certainly not unheard of.

Personally I'm fine with it if it is done well and is true to the composition, and can retain the general flavor of the original performances.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   Hedji   (Member)

I agree. I’m not opposed at all. In fact, I don’t have the best ears for nuance, so I may not even notice.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 6:23 PM   
 By:   Hedji   (Member)

I should add that I’m genuinely excited to see Chris Malone’s involvement. That man has proven ability to perform sonic miracles on old recordings.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 6:28 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

I should add that I’m genuinely excited to see Chris Malone’s involvement. That man has proven ability to perform sonic miracles on old recordings.

Based on the samples, I heartily agree.

I've heard that his work was amazing before.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 9:13 PM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

More excited than ever to purchase this. Man, we've been blessed with some Horner riches lately.

I, too, what like to know some of the details of the restorative work that was done. Perhaps it'll be in the liner notes.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 10:59 PM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Didnt know that David Newman conducted the score.A fun score indeed and the blueprint for a lot of Horner scores to come
Happy for all Horner Fans!.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 11:04 PM   
 By:   Sartoris   (Member)

OMG,...63 minutes, meaning 20 minutes of James Horner early 80ies previously unreleased material....
= DISC OF THE YEAR!!
Bravo Intrada team.

Immediate order...but through Music Box.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 11:47 PM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

Is the sample of the main title mono by mistake? The rest of the samples sound completely different and are dynamic stereo.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2023 - 11:55 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

Is the sample of the main title mono by mistake? The rest of the samples sound completely different and are dynamic stereo.

I think that’s the case.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2023 - 1:17 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'd be interested in the remastered version of the OST on disc 2. Just to replace my old OST in iTunes.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2023 - 2:54 AM   
 By:   Bus-Punk   (Member)

Ordered! A definate Holy Grail release for me as loved this film as a kid and the score. The samples sound incredibly clear and well mixed - Thank you Intrada!

It says the score is remastered from the actual 2” 24-track recording session masters, I wonder if that’s true for the album remaster too on Disc 2, or if that’s from another source? I suspect I’ll only be listening to the full score from here on in though.

Will the digital release be 24/96? If so I may well have to get that too smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2023 - 4:48 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'd be interested in the remastered version of the OST on disc 2. Just to replace my old OST in iTunes.

The remastered OST was done just for you!

 
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