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 Posted:   Feb 28, 2021 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

Am I the only one who likes it!?

http://www.movie-wave.net/raya-and-the-last-dragon/

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2021 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   SoldierofFortune   (Member)

Am I the only one who likes it!?

http://www.movie-wave.net/raya-and-the-last-dragon/


No, you're not the only one and i'm agreed with your review.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2021 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

I tend to blow hot and cold with Howard...

But I'm really liking this.

It's inventive and entertaining throughout, and doesn't have that 30 odd minute "dead space" in the centre that let News of the World down a little for me. it definitely smacks of Avatar in places, but as a Disney animated adventure score it's pretty great.

It's an immediately accessible recording / mix too.

I don't know why it's getting so many negative comments...

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2021 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

It's FSM Town, John wink

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2021 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)

I think this is what a sequel score for AVATAR would sound like from JNH.

Nah, I think he would do something much better than this for an Avatar film. He clearly got steered in the wrong direction when writing this score.


The score is not that bad. It is a good score. Not one of his best, but certainly has its moments. I will agree that if Howard scores Avatar, it should be a lot better than this.

 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2021 - 9:01 PM   
 By:   General Kael   (Member)

I think this is what a sequel score for AVATAR would sound like from JNH.

Nah, I think he would do something much better than this for an Avatar film. He clearly got steered in the wrong direction when writing this score.


The score is not that bad. It is a good score. Not one of his best, but certainly has its moments. I will agree that if Howard scores Avatar, it should be a lot better than this.


I just assumed Zimmer would do Avatar. It's a big money franchise for Disney. He could do a little Lion King esque stuff perhaps. And wonder woman 1984 should instill enough confidence round these parts that he could pull off an Avatar score.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2021 - 9:46 PM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)

I think this is what a sequel score for AVATAR would sound like from JNH.

Nah, I think he would do something much better than this for an Avatar film. He clearly got steered in the wrong direction when writing this score.


The score is not that bad. It is a good score. Not one of his best, but certainly has its moments. I will agree that if Howard scores Avatar, it should be a lot better than this.


I just assumed Zimmer would do Avatar. It's a big money franchise for Disney. He could do a little Lion King esque stuff perhaps. And wonder woman 1984 should instill enough confidence round these parts that he could pull off an Avatar score.


I could be completely wrong, but I still don't buy Zimmer and Cameron working together.

Cameron: "You need to drop all your projects and only work on Avatar 2,3,4,5,6. Plus you need to adapt all of Horner's themes."

Zimmer: "Hey Chris, Patty, Denis, Ron, I going off the grid for a couple of years to help build Horner's legacy. See y'all later."

I don't see this conversation happening. But then again, he is a fan of Zimmer, and maybe RCP resources are exactly what Cameron needs, so they compromised somehow I guess.

 
 Posted:   Mar 1, 2021 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

After a second listen I still find the majority of the score grating on my ears. Half of the score, mostly the second half is dreadful.

Without actually editing out the first half of “Betrayed” I end up with a 35 minute playlist. Though even a whittled down playlist is average at best. To many short cues. The second half of the score is mostly forgettable. I'm much better off listening to his other scores.

Whittled playlist:

Young Raya and Namaari
Betrayed (second half only)
Search for the Last Dragon
Into the shipwreck
Enter the Dragon
Fleeing from Tail
Journey to Talon (First half only)
Sisu Swims
Dragon Graveyard
Running on Raindrops
Brother and Sisters
The Druun Close In
Return
The New World

total Time 35:04

Updated! Revised and edited playlist:

Edited "Betrayed" down to the last 1:53 mins.
Added/Edited "Journey to Talon" down to first 44 secs.

Total Time 30:44

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2021 - 2:41 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

My pocket review (of both film and score):

http://celluloidtunes.no/raya-and-the-last-dragon-james-newton-howard/

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2021 - 3:18 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Anyone else find it strange that there is no composer credit on the official album cover?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2021 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yes, that is a little odd.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2021 - 6:36 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

My pocket review (of both film and score):

http://celluloidtunes.no/raya-and-the-last-dragon-james-newton-howard/


Very good review. I haven't seen the movie but I figured the film was disjointed which lead to an unsatisfactory score overall.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2021 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Anyone else find it strange that there is no composer credit on the official album cover?
Yes, that is a little odd.


That's usually a sign an artist doesn't want to be associated with the project. eek
Or the graphic designer just neglected to add the composers name.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2021 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Didn't Disney used to have a terrible reputation for not giving THE TALENT up front and centre credit?

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2021 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Didn't Disney used to have a terrible reputation for not giving THE TALENT up front and centre credit?

Yeah, up to the 70's I guess. The 80's on they put the composer credit on the cover art. But before the 80's most Disney albums were "Song" compilations with some score.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2021 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

Anyone else find it strange that there is no composer credit on the official album cover?

What Official Album? I don't see any. A download is no "Official Album" where I come from.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2021 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I am usually a fan of J N Howard, but I haven’t heard the score yet. If anyone is interested, Roger Ebert site gave the movie three and a half stars out of 4 stars and said the following about the score.

All of them are also ably supported by one of James Newton Howard’s best scores.

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/raya-and-the-last-dragon-movie-review-2021

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2021 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I am usually a fan of J N Howard, but I haven’t heard the score yet. If anyone is interested, Roger Ebert site gave the movie three and a half stars out of 4 stars and said the following about the score.

All of them are also ably supported by one of James Newton Howard’s best scores.

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/raya-and-the-last-dragon-movie-review-2021


Certainly every film benefits and is better because of JNH's musical contributions.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2021 - 5:29 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


What Official Album? I don't see any. A download is no "Official Album" where I come from.


I suppose it's ok to be factually wrong.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2021 - 11:24 PM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

Anyone else find it strange that there is no composer credit on the official album cover?

What Official Album? I don't see any. A download is no "Official Album" where I come from.


Ok, grandpa

 
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