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Sep 14, 2015 - 10:32 PM
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cody1949
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Honestly there is little response because only a few hundred folks bought it.
MV
That's unfortunate, as it's an incredible release. I'm sure unfamiliarity is one reason for low sales, maybe as much for the composer as the title. If it was Ròzsa or Herrmann...maybe more impulse buys would've resulted.
INVASION is a Golden Age title; are Golden Age fans passing on this, too?
I bought it and I'm very happy with it. I know a few other people who bought it too. It's a great CD and I'm enjoying it. I hope sales will pick up over time. I appreciate it MV! 
This is really a shock to me. I thought for sure it would sell well across all age groups. I bought it and my friend,PFK bought it. I guess this puts an end to your vinyl plan for "Invasion".
Perhaps the name Carmen Dragon didn't have the drawing power of names like Steiner, Waxman, Tiomkin, Newman and Young. Don't give up on the 40's,50's and 60'S, MV.
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Sep 14, 2015 - 10:42 PM
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PFK
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Honestly there is little response because only a few hundred folks bought it.
MV
That's unfortunate, as it's an incredible release. I'm sure unfamiliarity is one reason for low sales, maybe as much for the composer as the title. If it was Ròzsa or Herrmann...maybe more impulse buys would've resulted.
INVASION is a Golden Age title; are Golden Age fans passing on this, too?
I bought it and I'm very happy with it. I know a few other people who bought it too. It's a great CD and I'm enjoying it. I hope sales will pick up over time. I appreciate it MV!
This is really a shock to me. I thought for sure it would sell well across all age groups. I bought it and my friend,PFK bought it. I guess this puts an end to your vinyl plan for "Invasion".
Perhaps the name Carmen Dragon didn't have the drawing power of names like Steiner, Waxman, Tiomkin, Newman and Young. Don't give up on the 40's,50's and 60'S, MV.
I too thought this excellent score to a cult sci-fi 1950s classic would cross-over to all age groups and sell very well.
Like you said Cody, perhaps many are unfamiliar with Carmen Dragon.
Now if this classic score said: "Music by Bernard Herrmann" .... it would now be sold out!
Please don't give up MV, your previous Golden Age CDs by Dimitri Tiomkin, Victor Young etc., most have either sold out or are selling very well.
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Sep 15, 2015 - 5:59 AM
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Graham Watt
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This is by far the most exciting release of the year for me. What makes it especially exciting is that the album contains a good bit of music that wasn't used in the film, including a very powerful, relentless cue for when Miles and Becky are fleeing from Santa Mira. The greenhouse sequence contains some of the scariest, most hair-raising music ever written for a film.
Yes Bill, I noticed a lot of music which was different from what I knew from the film too. It's all covered in the great liner notes thankfully.
That "powerful, relentless cue" you refer to for Miles and Becky fleeing from Santa Mira - That's "They're Over There" on the CD, right? Yeah, that one took me by surprise, having been used to hearing the (tracked) music as used in the film. It's almost like a demented bolero or tango or something.
Interestingly, the film (and CD of course) retains the interpolation of of the distorted melody of the song "I'm in Love With the World" for Miles' final panic among the traffic even though the song itself was jettisoned from the movie. I never even noticed on first listen that it was the same tune. Clever bit of scoring that, but I doubt audiences would have made the connection even if the original song had been retained. As it is, it has always sounded to me like a Leith Stevens approach to mounting anguish.
And yeah (again) - the greenhouse music has sent chills up my spine ever since I heard it for the first time on the telly when I was a kid.
Lots more to talk about regarding this release... I'll cobble together some thoughts, or just copy other peoples' (tee hee) and post later.
Final comment for now - Anyone notice that the back cover design, with Miles staring terrified at Becky in her "vampire coffin" (?) is actually the same photo (of Kevin McCarthy) from page 6 of the booklet, minus the blokes he's attacking with a pair of syringes (and minus the syringes)?
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I'd think this CD would sell a lot of copies at scifi/comic cons.
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I, too, am surprised this isn't selling as fast as I would have thought. That said, now's the time, folks. Now. Is. The. Time. This is a coup, believe me. Since I was about 15 and saw this film on Saturday Night at the Movies, hosted by Canadian legend Elwy Yost (father of producer/writer Graham Yost), I've wanted this score. That was more than 30 years ago.
Now. Is. The. Time. 
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Sep 22, 2015 - 12:15 PM
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manderley
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I, too, am surprised this isn't selling as fast as I would have thought. That said, now's the time, folks. Now. Is. The. Time. This is a coup, believe me. Since I was about 15 and saw this film on Saturday Night at the Movies, hosted by Canadian legend Elwy Yost (father of producer/writer Graham Yost), I've wanted this score. That was more than 30 years ago.
Now. Is. The. Time.
ELWY YOST !!!
I haven't heard that name in ages!
During the 1970s and 1980s I used to spend a lot of time in Canada, particularly Vancouver and Toronto, and I would never miss his old movie presentations on TV if I could help it.
Most of the movies I had seen before, of course, and some many times, but Yost was a true movie fan who loved old movies, knew a great deal about them, and could present his affection for them in a way that was not pedantic. He was kind of a grandfather type and very jovial. I loved him.
It appeared to me that during his movie season vacations he would often go to Los Angeles or England and, with a very small crew, pick up very personal interviews with the stars, directors, cameramen, or other behind-the-scenes filmmakers for films he was planning to run in the upcoming season. Many of these people were ones you had not seen interviewed in ages---or even interviewed at all previously---so they were quite unexpected when they turned up on Yost's show.
I once read that many of these interviews were deposited at, I believe, the Motion Picture Academy in Hollywood, though I'm not quite sure whether this referred to prints or actual camera negatives.
Strangely enough, I can't recall any of these interviews ever turning up in bits and pieces on other film documentaries in the intervening years, perhaps because Yost's interviewing style, which was more a back-and-forth conversation with the personalities involved---never lent themselves to being chopped up into 15-30 second video/audio sound bites on an extend documentary.
Continue on with the conversation about INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS.....which is an unexpected release, and totally marvelous score in the eyes of this old Golden Age fan.....and which I picked up last Friday in a sealed copy (from a display of about 5 more available) for $12.99 at a local used-CD store.
It DOES surprise me that this is not selling well. I thought it would be a sure-fire seller for La La Land, particularly with the quality of the presentation, the sound of the tapes, the cult fame of the film, and the number of sci-fi fans out there.
I was also surprised, however, at the 2000-run pressing. Is it only Bruce Kimmel who has learned to initially press 1000-1200 copies of most of this Golden Age stuff in a first edition (with the possibility of pressing more later) than to be over-zealous and later disappointed (and out-of-pocket) if it doesn't sell well.
Finally, it's a shame that a composer-conductor-orchestrator as well known as Carmen Dragon once was, has become essentially forgotten today, particularly on a film music forum.
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Oh, cool, Manderley, love your story. Love that you got a taste of Canadiana whilst working north of the border.
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Sep 22, 2015 - 3:22 PM
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manderley
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Oh, cool, Manderley, love your story. Love that you got a taste of Canadiana whilst working north of the border.
Ah, yes.....
Although I can't remember ever using "whilst" in my conversations, I did learn to pronounce "about" in the Canadian way, which always sounded to my ears more like "aboat" (as in "a boat") rather than the American interpretation of how they think Canadians say it, "aboot" (as in "a boot")!
"Eh?" creeps into my conversations occasionally, but when I dine in the US I try never to wipe my mouth with "serviette"---but always a "napkin".
One of the fun things I also enjoyed observing was the calmer Canadian way of expressing some things. In the US, if someone asked you how you liked the dinner, you might say, "Wow! The steak was GREAT!" In Canada, you might say, "The steak was very nice."
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