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 Posted:   Jul 24, 2016 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Did Onya get to revisit Land of the Giants and hear Williams @ his best for Irwin Allen?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2016 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Is this as close as Williams came to making an exotica album?

No, Jaws doesn't have exotica content.

The Hawaiian-sourced Diamond Head might be the album closest to exotica.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2016 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

OnyaBirri :

You appear to have little interest in film music, your distain of scores from the 1980's and in general is beyond explanation?? Why are you even in this forum??

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2016 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


No, Jaws doesn't have exotica content.


I beg to differ.

It apes "The Rite of Spring," the seminal exotica work.

And it has plenty of impressionistic, watery exotica elements.

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2016 - 6:05 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

OnyaBirri :

You appear to have little interest in film music, your distain of scores from the 1980's and in general is beyond explanation?? Why are you even in this forum??


Not everyone blindly worships and glorifies the '80s, even if they had the tragic misfortune of having been a child during that time.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2016 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

OnyaBirri :

You appear to have little interest in film music, your distain (sic) of scores from the 1980's and in general is beyond explanation?? Why are you even in this forum??



Thanks for asking.

I am here to learn. Hopefully, one day, my contributions will meet your standards for appropriate film-music-related discourse. Until then, I'll keep trying.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2017 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I picked up "The Eiger Sanction" for two bucks. Blind buy. The fact that it pre-dates "Star Wars" and appears to lack any Spielberg involvement are both big plusses. The 1970s-era MCA vinyl scares me a little, though. I will have to give it a scrub on the trusted Nitty Gritty before I spin this, and report back afterward.

Without giving away any spoilers, is the film any good? Really looking more for 70s visual and stylistic content more than a conventionally "good" film.

 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2017 - 10:38 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

This McNeely rerecording lacks the bite of the original...

I always enjoyed this album over the Decca expansion. Its a good performance and a fine recording.

 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2017 - 11:27 PM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

OnyaBirri :

You appear to have little interest in film music, your distain of scores from the 1980's and in general is beyond explanation?? Why are you even in this forum??


Not everyone blindly worships and glorifies the '80s, even if they had the tragic misfortune of having been a child during that time.


I have been a teenager of the 80´s and do not blindly worship them at all. However, I don´t consider it being a tragic misfortune having spent my formative years in that time at all.

And while everyone is entitled to their opinion I wonder why some opinons (hating the 80´s, Steven Spielberg, John Williams´ music for 80´s landmark films) have to be expressed in a way that is obviously designed to provoke or at least enjoying the feeling of being a contrarian and therefore superior.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2017 - 2:17 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I picked up "The Eiger Sanction" for two bucks. Blind buy. The fact that it pre-dates "Star Wars" and appears to lack any Spielberg involvement are both big plusses. The 1970s-era MCA vinyl scares me a little, though. I will have to give it a scrub on the trusted Nitty Gritty before I spin this, and report back afterward.

Without giving away any spoilers, is the film any good? Really looking more for 70s visual and stylistic content more than a conventionally "good" film.


I absolutely adore that score, and even did a thread on the "sound" it evokes (that might be of interest to you):

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=51696&forumID=1&archive=0

As for the film, it has its issues, but kinda works as a MacLean potpoiler. Here's an earlier thread where we talk about it:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=1107&forumID=1&archive=1

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2017 - 5:33 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I absolutely adore that score, and even did a thread on the "sound" it evokes (that might be of interest to you):

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=51696&forumID=1&archive=0

As for the film, it has its issues, but kinda works as a MacLean potpoiler. Here's an earlier thread where we talk about it:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=1107&forumID=1&archive=1


I think I contributed to that first thread. Are there spoilers in the second thread? I'm thinking about renting the film just for yucks. I hope with all that snow there is at least one scene in the film with wine and fondue.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2017 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I don't think there are much in terms of spoilers. My own (spoiler-free) film review is a bit down (April 22, 2009).

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2017 - 5:41 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

This McNeely rerecording lacks the bite of the original...

I always enjoyed this album over the Decca expansion. Its a good performance and a fine recording.



I agree with that. For a listening experience to the music on CD with good sound this one is excellent.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2017 - 6:02 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


Without giving away any spoilers, is the film any good? Really looking more for 70s visual and stylistic content more than a conventionally "good" film.



In that case, you've come to the right film. Based on yet another attempt to create an American James Bond, the books were entertaining page turners, and I loved the film as a 15 year old when it came out. I have the distinct memory of going to see it two or three times at the cinema, one time taking my Dad's hand-held Philips dictation machine to record the main title. I can still hear in my mind the quavering notes on the mini-tape in the Philips, which was a machine designed for the human voice rather than high fidelity music recording.

It opens with a brutal chase through quaint city streets, and culminates with a fairly tense (if slightly drawn out) mountain climbing escapade. I know that my good friend MusicMad down't care at all for what comes in between, but on this occasion I'm programmed by my teenage inculcation to see it differently. Looking back on it now, there are parts that are almost (but not quite) as cringe-worthy as Moonraker but they're played more deadpan. We all laughed at the camp villain, at a time when being gay and being camp were one and the same. And we wanted to be in Clint's running shoes when he broke through "the wall" in his training with the promise of a clinch with George.

It's a twisty-turny tale of spies and betrayal, with a mercenary anti-hero (who foreshadows Indiana Jones in his private life) and an albino "M". It includes quite a lot of quotably sarcastic lines, such as (might be paraphrasing):

"My superior wants to see you"
"Well that doesn't rule many people out"

And I think I mentioned George already. And the music, which is based partly on a couple of baroque chamber melodies, one for the main titles and love theme, and one for the training scenes. The main theme also appears in the tenser moments, transforming into a awe-struck version for some of the more spectacular mountain vistas. It's unmistakably Williams, but is as close to Morricone as I can recall him going.

Having typed all this has made me want to see the film again, can't say fairer than that.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2017 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

In that case, you've come to the right film. Based on yet another attempt to create an American James Bond, the books were entertaining page turners, and I loved the film as a 15 year old when it came out.

Sounds like a good Friday night movie, especially if it's cold outside!

 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2017 - 6:27 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I think our good OnyaBirri will acutely appreciate that the Eastwood character has an art collection "habit", which necessitated Clint's character coming out of retirement. Or was that another film?

Take The Eiger Sanction as a black comedy and a snapshot of 1974-75 ("There was 1974 and half of '75; that's all there was.") and your enjoyment of the film will increase a hundredfold.

I've always loved the Williams score.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2017 - 6:50 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Listened to "The Eiger Sanction."

Well, even a scrub on the trusted Nitty Gritty machine can do only so much for MCA 1970s-era vinyl. It is cursed.

In case you hadn't heard, MCA allegedly melted down their defective returned inventory with the labels still on the records, so little pieces of paper wound up in the recycled vinyl. How is that for quality control?

This is a really great album, delivering lots of what I would expect from an early 70s soundtrack. (Yes, I know it is 1975, but it sounds early 70s).

It makes me want to see the film. It also makes me wish that there could have been a way to extend the early 70s for a few more years.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2017 - 4:49 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Glad you enjoyed the album, Onya, even if the LP itself sounded rather rough.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2017 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Glad you enjoyed the album, Onya, even if the LP itself sounded rather rough.

That's 1970s MCA vinyl. Straight out of shrink wrap and you will hear all kinds of pops and clicks along the way.

One thing that we've really lost in the digital era - both from the programming and listening perspective - is the concept of the album side. Something about that 12- to 20-minute length is perfect for focused listening. Having to physically get up and flip the record requires that you re-focus when side 2 starts.

Back to "The Eiger Sanction," please tell me that there is a scene with wine and fondue in the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2017 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Onya, I don't recall you offering any feedback to us on your thoughts/impressions regarding the pilot episode music by Williams for Land of the Giants

 
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