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 Posted:   Sep 27, 2010 - 10:41 PM   
 By:   xG-MONEYx   (Member)

Hey where is those Big Big Big Cover pics I like to see on here?

Cann some one make that happen from LaLaLand Please & thank You!!

I look forward to those Big Scand covers!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 1:26 AM   
 By:   DerekR   (Member)

I also notice that on my copy the CD finishes playing without a run off, the player shutting down before the final note of the second bonus track is completed. Has anyone else noticed this?


Yes, I noticed this as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 2:17 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

I also notice that on my copy the CD finishes playing without a run off, the player shutting down before the final note of the second bonus track is completed. Has anyone else noticed this?


Yes, I noticed this as well.



Hopefully La-La Land can confirm if all their copies are the same.

In a very short space of time we've had problems with recent releases from Varese, Intrada, Kritzerland and some here reported a Tadlow issue last week (though my copy was fine). And now an apparent error with a La-La Land disc.
A bit worrying.
Lately I've had a far better ratio of success from my home CDR burns than from the factory-pressed CDs I've bought!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 3:47 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

I also notice that on my copy the CD finishes playing without a run off, the player shutting down before the final note of the second bonus track is completed. Has anyone else noticed this?


Yes, I noticed this as well.



Hopefully La-La Land can confirm if all their copies are the same.

In a very short space of time we've had problems with recent releases from Varese, Intrada, Kritzerland and some here reported a Tadlow issue last week (though my copy was fine). And now an apparent error with a La-La Land disc.
A bit worrying.
Lately I've had a far better ratio of success from my home CDR burns than from the factory-pressed CDs I've bought!


Some people want pressing to become cheaper all the time, more money for other areas, unfortunately with it goes quality.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   IloveJerry   (Member)

How is the sound on this compared to the earlier version?

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

There was no legal earlier version.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   IloveJerry   (Member)

That's not my question

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

My primary musical memory of the film -- it's been a long time -- is the Elgar First Symphony. (No shame in that!) Was this musical reference part of Scott's musical plan or was it something imposed from without? Does the record reflect the same usage as the ST?

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

That's not my question


So you're asking this message board if you should buy the only legal version or stick with an illegal bootleg, and expect a serious answer?

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

That's not my question


So you're asking this message board if you should buy the only legal version or stick with an illegal bootleg, and expect a serious answer?


The earlier version was an LP on WB Records right?
This CD deput uses modern mastering technology & techniques from the original source tapes that wasn't availible in '84, so the sound quality is indeed an improvment.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   DerekR   (Member)

Hopefully La-La Land can confirm if all their copies are the same.

In a very short space of time we've had problems with recent releases from Varese, Intrada, Kritzerland and some here reported a Tadlow issue last week (though my copy was fine). And now an apparent error with a La-La Land disc.
A bit worrying.
Lately I've had a far better ratio of success from my home CDR burns than from the factory-pressed CDs I've bought!



With my collection at around 1500 cds, I made a decision earlier this year to buy what I know I'd like and totally skip anything that is not a priority, including borderline decisions. It's too many cds, too little time to thoroughly enjoy them.

There does seem to be more problems of late... a Spartacus disc, every pressing of Spacecamp, both of which I purchased; I haven't bought the Tadlow release or any of the Kritzerland discs. Anyone taking bets on if the entire Star Trek set, all 14 discs, is going to be error free? wink

My counter on Greystoke says 38:31, the cd is listed at 38:30. Track #17 ends on my copy at 2:58-2:59, listed at 2:59, so this is likely an abrupt ending not an error. Listening to the final track (#17) as it nears 2:15-2:30, the clicks -- could be instrument keys for all I know -- remind me of some of my lps! smile In fact, the sound is so good you can hear many subtle clicks throughout the cd. Damn that quality cd sound! wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

Well most of the problems found on these CDs are so miniscule that they only are heard through the most analytical listening experiences. And most people aren't even noticeing them until someone posts it on the forums. These miniscule problems appear on commercial releases as well, but the passionate film music collector seems to be focused on the limited editions. So it just appears like the limited releases are the only ones.
In fact with any problems of any product, internet forums always make it seem that problems are bigger than what they actually are, because you have all these consumer's grouped in one spot, and its more common for cosumers to complain about something than praise it on the internet. For example someone may register on a forum just so they can post a problem their haveing.

The funny part is, that whenever we get these long threads with a detailed list of complaints and notes on how to spot the errors from every user, the labels always respond with something like "No such problems have been brought to our attention". Which is typical, internet consumers frequently take there complaints to forums rather than to the manufactures directly.

My only question is Why did they place Overture where they did? It may seem like the Bonus tracks are seperated from the album by looking at the track list, but when you're actually listening they clash together. The Overture just doesn't sound right when sandwiched between Return to the Jungle, and the End Credits.

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Thank you DerekR for pretty much posting what I was about to.

In regards to the other gentleman's question:

The sound quality on the "bonus tracks" were not up to par with the other remastered LP tracks. Plus, we had to preserve the LP presentation since this was not one of our "expanded Editions"

We tossed on those two extra tracks because they were on the unmentionable and could be pulled from the magnetic track cleanly. They are just that, "Bonuses." If one has two tracks of bonuses and one is the Overture and the other the End Titles there is only one logical explanation as to it's order on the cd. wink

MV

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   DerekR   (Member)

Thank you DerekR for pretty much posting what I was about to.


MV, you're welcome! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 6:12 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Thank you DerekR for pretty much posting what I was about to.

In regards to the other gentleman's question:

The sound quality on the "bonus tracks" were not up to par with the other remastered LP tracks. Plus, we had to preserve the LP presentation since this was not one of our "expanded Editions"

We tossed on those two extra tracks because they were on the unmentionable and could be pulled from the magnetic track cleanly. They are just that, "Bonuses." If one has two tracks of bonuses and one is the Overture and the other the End Titles there is only one logical explanation as to it's order on the cd. wink


Was it impossible to put the Overture first (contract wise I guess)? That still would have "preserved the LP presentation".

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 8:03 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Thank you DerekR for pretty much posting what I was about to.

In regards to the other gentleman's question:

The sound quality on the "bonus tracks" were not up to par with the other remastered LP tracks. Plus, we had to preserve the LP presentation since this was not one of our "expanded Editions"

We tossed on those two extra tracks because they were on the unmentionable and could be pulled from the magnetic track cleanly. They are just that, "Bonuses." If one has two tracks of bonuses and one is the Overture and the other the End Titles there is only one logical explanation as to it's order on the cd. wink


Was it impossible to put the Overture first (contract wise I guess)? That still would have "preserved the LP presentation".


For this release it just would not have worked. And even if we did do just that I am sure there would be plenty of people on this board who would have complained.

MV

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 8:37 PM   
 By:   jedizim   (Member)



For this release it just would not have worked. And even if we did do just that I am sure there would be plenty of people on this board who would have complained.

MV


Isn't THAT the truth!!??!!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 8:40 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

And even if we did do just that I am sure there would be plenty of people on this board who would have complained.

MV


My only complaint is that the CD shuts off (as opposed to just the sound ending) before the end of the last cue. Another poster confirmed this issue with his CD too. Please advise whether a replacement will be worthwhile or if all the discs are likely to be similar. Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2010 - 10:31 PM   
 By:   xG-MONEYx   (Member)

Hey where is those Big Big Big Cover pics I like to see on here?

Cann some one make that happen from LaLaLand Please & thank You!!

I look forward to those Big Scand covers!!!


DID anybody see my post about posting the ART to this CD up PLEASE!!!! Can anybody help!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2010 - 12:23 AM   
 By:   DerekR   (Member)

My only complaint is that the CD shuts off (as opposed to just the sound ending) before the end of the last cue. Another poster confirmed this issue with his CD too. Please advise whether a replacement will be worthwhile or if all the discs have this fault. Thanks.


Being that the playing time of track #17 on my copy matches the listed time, and because the total disc time matches so closely, I believe this is the way the discs were pressed.

 
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