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I strongly disliked this score when I first heard it, but I've warmed up to much of it in the time since then. I still have reservations about it (especially the big action music waltz) but I have to admit that it was effective in the film and one of the single most influential scores of its decade.
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There's a pretty sizable Zimmer audience here, but a very vocal anti-Zimmer one. Not liking Gladiator isn't the same as not liking Zimmer. The movie is a bore and the score , for me, especially with the wailing woman, was underwhelming.
I thought the score had its moments, but they weren't frequent. As a Rozsa fan I'm used to hearing Roman music that actually suggests the period even if it's not authentic, and Zimmer's music doesn't. (Indeed, one theme sounds more Celtic to me than Roman). Neither is there room in Zimmer's style for much development, another Rozsa specialty. I like the barbarian battle music okay (the only decent scene in the film), but it's just what it is and doesn't invite either close examination or repeated listening. Overall: 3/10
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I've always seen eye to eye with Ridley when it comes to music choices. hmm. Well, pre-Streitenfeld, anyway. Oh well...
Interesting. For me, Ridley Scott has pretty much batted "zero" with the exception of Vangelis' score for BLADE RUNNER, which I've grown to appreciate more and more with repeated viewings. The GLADIATOR score has been like fingernails on a blackboard for me since the beginning, and I especially can't stand Lisa Gerard's wailing coyote stuff.
Tssk tssk. Not even Howard Blake's The Duelists? For shame, Dana...
Thelma And Louise? 1492? Absloutely perfect. Ridley scores a zero for Alien because he edited some of it? K.
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No, it's still a fantastic score, and a landmark, influential one in recent film music history.
I'm inclined to agree a bit. I JUST bought this score mostly because the final track was used in a terrific Wado Ryu demo on YouTube and I really like it.
So I had a chance to really analyze this beast. I really enjoy the guitar work. To me, the more ethereal or atmospheric music works very well in defining itself. It would have been interesting if Zimmer had used more of this for his epic battle sequences. That said, the big action pieces are still pretty hard to handle. The doubling of synths and orchestra is just not good irregardless of the Holst influences. Truthfully, it's the Prokofiev Lt. Kije "Romance" lift that bothers me more.
Aside from that, there is some very quasi classical things Zimmer is doing here including some amazing chromatic harmonic string sections. It works!
Like LAST SAMURAI, Zimmer excels at the more introspective moments. I think the action sequences reveal his discomfort with involved orchestral set pieces- whereas Horner does quite well with them...or Williams.
Good score though all in all.
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Came across the "More Music" cd. Do you think should I get it or wait for the probably La La Land Records reissue? ;-)
You may be waiting a while, and the “More Music” CD, while marred by the inclusion of dialogue, does have a lot of good music on it not on the original soundtrack CD. In particular, it has the “Desert Caravan” cue, which was the moment in the film I bought the OST for. It has also usually available for pretty cheap, although I have not looked for a copy recently (because I have mine).
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Has your opinion of this Oscar nominated score changes since you listened to it?
Funny that you should ask this, but yes.
(It was abhorrent to me when I first heard it, but over the years, I've actually come to enjoy it.)
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