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I don't give a shit if it's fake stereo or whatever
good for you.
Are we to take it, then, that you shan't be ordering a copy of this splendid new release?
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May 2, 2010 - 8:22 PM
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from the liner notes of the new LLL release.
"...this marks the first ever release of the ENTIRE [EMPHASIS MINE]
score in stereo."
Track 28 (alternate)
" this track was chosen to conclude the score presentation as it is the only surviving stereo recording of the End title"
LALALAND we have a problem.
Not only do the liner notes contradict each other and the promotional materials for the album (http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=67954&forumID=1&archive=0),
but they are further misleading - the Main Title is not in stereo either (it sounds as if some reverb might have been added to the low end to produce a 'phantom' left & right soundfield)
Now, I am happy for this release but I think i can speak for all fans of this score when i say it is preciscely the two tracks mentioned above that fans so dearly wanted in stereo.
If, there is no stereo tracks extant for the main & End title, why did you not say so, and explain why NOT?
I look forward to Jeff Bond and Mike Mattesino replies Hi Mr.Marshall. It is true that LLL certainly blow their trumpet about how great sounding their new releases are.They did the very same thing with Dragonslayer,bleating how great sounding it was,and saying how the sound from the Southern Cross release sounded,and I quote...Like Shit.I have compared both releases. Well to be honest ,it is no better than that release,maybe because it was taken from the exact same elements!! Then again ,if you have the FSM issue of The Poseidon Adventure, then you have the best possible release of this score.
bruce
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. . . why something is not prefect . . .
LOL!
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What I find really amazing, in a larger context, is the sheer amount of BITCHING people do about so many discs that come out. We've had a windfall in the past decade that would have never seemed possible....and so much so that I think we've become just a tad bit spoiled. Most of the complaining sure seems to be nit-picking about why something is not perfect....why 12 seconds of a favorite cue is missing......blah blah blah.
And, of course, this will be justified because we as the consumer should not settle for less than...blah blah blah.
It's not just that - it's that after all the work that goes into a release, all the sweating to make it as good as it can be within the limits of what one has to work with, you rarely actually see posts praising the CD, music, and/or work. You see nitpicky complaints, or "yeah, great, but I really want such and such".
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May 2, 2010 - 11:44 PM
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It's not just that - it's that after all the work that goes into a release, all the sweating to make it as good as it can be within the limits of what one has to work with, you rarely actually see posts praising the CD, music, and/or work. You see nitpicky complaints, or "yeah, great, but I really want such and such".
I will never, ever be able to thank you for your release of Cross Of Iron. I will go on saying this so long as I have breath in my body and Internet access. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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I just placed my order for THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE. Nothing in this thread made me question the decision.
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It's not just that - it's that after all the work that goes into a release, all the sweating to make it as good as it can be within the limits of what one has to work with, you rarely actually see posts praising the CD, music, and/or work. You see nitpicky complaints, or "yeah, great, but I really want such and such".
I will never, ever be able to thank you for your release of Cross Of Iron. I will go on saying this so long as I have breath in my body and Internet access. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I second that , I was waiting for a proper release for Cross Of Iron since a long long time, one of my grails : great thanks to you!
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Thanks re Cross of Iron. But I wasn't speaking just of Kritzerland - there have been such amazing releases from every label, and I just wish there were more posts about them - about the music, and the good work - I can only tell you that at the end of the day it's nice to hear. I know it's hard sometimes to remember - I really try to do it when I hear something wonderful, but sometimes I forget, too.
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I just placed my order for THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE. Nothing in this thread made me question the decision.
John Williams. Irwin Allen. No question, an immediate buy. :-)
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May 3, 2010 - 8:06 AM
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What I find really amazing, in a larger context, is the sheer amount of BITCHING people do about so many discs that come out. We've had a windfall in the past decade that would have never seemed possible....and so much so that I think we've become just a tad bit spoiled. Most of the complaining sure seems to be nit-picking about why something is not perfect....why 12 seconds of a favorite cue is missing......blah blah blah.
And, of course, this will be justified because we as the consumer should not settle for less than...blah blah blah.
It's not just that - it's that after all the work that goes into a release, all the sweating to make it as good as it can be within the limits of what one has to work with, you rarely actually see posts praising the CD, music, and/or work. You see nitpicky complaints, or "yeah, great, but I really want such and such".
And then somebody re-releases Robocop, The Blue Max, The Fugitive, King Solomon's mines, The omega man, and so on... and sells it saying "the previous release had the wrong artwork, this crucial track was missing, channels where reversed, it had a wrong sequencing, they forgot to include the clarinet track, the speed was incorrect, there was hiss, blahblahblah... I'ts ok if you're trying to sell your product but not if you're the buyer? I don't think so
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And then somebody re-releases Robocop, The Blue Max, The Fugitive, King Solomon's mines, The omega man, and so on... and sells it saying "the previous release had the wrong artwork, this crucial track was missing, channels where reversed, it had a wrong sequencing, they forgot to include the clarinet track, the speed was incorrect, there was hiss, blahblahblah... I'ts ok if you're trying to sell your product but not if you're the buyer? I don't think so
Well, look at it this way: The speciality labels and the album producers are most likely doing the best they can with their releases. Everything depends on the quality of the masters and on the available rights, the licenceable (and affordable) artwork, and so on. Lukas for instance stated that he rather would have wanted to expand ALL the James Bond soundtracks back in 2002. But that was sadly EMI's call, not his. And if Warners originally reversed the channels on THE FUGITIVE - well, shouldn't we actually be happy that LaLaLand comes along and CORRECTS it?
And if years later some OTHER or even the SAME label unearthes newly discovered masters (i. e. Varese's THE GREAT ESCAPE), or FSM is able to re-visit THE OMEGA MAN (which was a revelation especially to those who missed the first release!) everyone on this board should actually be thankful for the lengths and efforts the labels go these days. All this bitching seems sickening (Exceptions where all the bashing is probably understandable are CDs like the so-called "Ultimate Edition" of THE PHANTOM MENACE) - and rather unfair, I might add. If you don't like a release, then simply don't buy it!
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What I find really amazing, in a larger context, is the sheer amount of BITCHING people do about so many discs that come out. We've had a windfall in the past decade that would have never seemed possible....and so much so that I think we've become just a tad bit spoiled. Most of the complaining sure seems to be nit-picking about why something is not perfect....why 12 seconds of a favorite cue is missing......blah blah blah.
And, of course, this will be justified because we as the consumer should not settle for less than...blah blah blah.
It's not just that - it's that after all the work that goes into a release, all the sweating to make it as good as it can be within the limits of what one has to work with, you rarely actually see posts praising the CD, music, and/or work. You see nitpicky complaints, or "yeah, great, but I really want such and such".
And then somebody re-releases Robocop, The Blue Max, The Fugitive, King Solomon's mines, The omega man, and so on... and sells it saying "the previous release had the wrong artwork, this crucial track was missing, channels where reversed, it had a wrong sequencing, they forgot to include the clarinet track, the speed was incorrect, there was hiss, blahblahblah... I'ts ok if you're trying to sell your product but not if you're the buyer? I don't think so
I think so. Nobody is putting a gun to your head and making you buy anything. Of the CDs you listed that I am familiar with, they were all improvements on previous releases, and THE OMEGA MAN was a way of putting more copies into the hands of fans who really wanted it, much to the frustration of speculators. I still see nothing to complain about.
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