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 Posted:   Nov 18, 2010 - 7:03 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Trying to recreate "The Bounty" score, makes as much sense as somebody trying to recreate Morricone's The Good the Bad and The Ugly score.

I don't think it's possible for anyone to capture the unique sound of these recordings.

In these cases, the original is best, there are no substitutes.


Some scores are just so idiosyncratic, sound-wise, that there's nothing to do. The only thing you can do is to make tributes and remixes and totally new interpretations.

For example, I love this pop orchestra's take on the Morricone score you mention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrenPqXgdBk&playnext=1&list=PL01D68DCBCF4D84BA&index=1

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2010 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   afn   (Member)

Funny, the main title reminds me of A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET.

Cheap sound, though, I have to admit. Couldn't they just use Vangelis' original instruments? I mean, synthesizers, even 80s, shouldn't be so hard to emulate, should they?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2010 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   reneintoys   (Member)

Funny, the main title reminds me of A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET.

Cheap sound, though, I have to admit. Couldn't they just use Vangelis' original instruments? I mean, synthesizers, even 80s, shouldn't be so hard to emulate, should they?


Absolutely agree, you only have to use the Yamaha CS 80 and the Roland 330 Vocoder Plus synth to give the total a more Vangelis feel.
you can fill in the rest later wink

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2010 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   groovemeister   (Member)

It is possible to re-create, or to come as near as possible to the authentic sound !

Just listen to this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b6twrgtgKc&feature=related

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2010 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

It is possible to re-create, or to come as near as possible to the authentic sound !

Just listen to this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b6twrgtgKc&feature=related


You weren't kidding. GET THAT GUY to re-recored a Vangelis score if you need to. He gets it. Wow.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2010 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   dryden   (Member)

I'm always excited by the prospect of expanded filmscore releases, but in the case of the Bounty soundtrack "less" may be "more" -- there's a lot of music in the Bounty score that's very
monotonous -- judicious editing on the part of the release's producers would really make a difference.

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2010 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

I agree, cover versions of synth scores are seldom a good idea. The original or nothing.

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2010 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

It is possible to re-create, or to come as near as possible to the authentic sound !

Just listen to this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b6twrgtgKc&feature=related


You weren't kidding. GET THAT GUY to re-recored a Vangelis score if you need to. He gets it. Wow.



That guy's good.

One of the commenters on that YouTube clip had an awesome idea for a Blade Runner prequel.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2010 - 5:31 AM   
 By:   BJN   (Member)

Here's an A/B test:

1. Dominik Hauser on the recent Buysoundtrax CD:
http://buysound.solo.net/Bounty_BSX/16_bounty_end_title.mp3

The piano lead appears to be pre-programmed on a computer, all the sounds like cheap imitations.

2. mik300z (M. Daniels), the same guy as in the Blade Runner cover linked above, with his version:



It seems clear, Buysoundtrax hired the wrong man.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2010 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Wow, BJN, big difference indeed. That Daniels guy clearly got the fatter, fuller Vangelis sound down, although the pace is a bit toof fast and the beat a bit too regular compared to the original.

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2010 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Hester_Pryne   (Member)

Vangelis is notorious for messing things up. With the release of Blade Runner THE FINAL CUT, he came out with a 3 CD issue of the score that still was NOT the score for the film. One rehashed disc. One disc of some additional music and utterly perplexing was a 3rd disc of his 'creativity' with concept... and the whole thing was a wash. Countless bootlegs of that score exist and are a better bet. What he does in a RErecording of The Bounty (I keep thinking paper towels...) could be another missed opportunity.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 1, 2011 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   buysoundtrax   (Member)

FYI,

I thought I'd bump the thread with a link to a very nice reivew of our new recoridng of this title:

http://maestrosteve.xanga.com/737297928/review-the-bounty-vangelis/


Mark Banning
www.buysoundtrax.com

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2011 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   dave3   (Member)


My gosh, a fan of the score and of Vangelis, I finally listened to this CD release and I am puzzled how many posts this release is causing over here.... Sorry to say but this rendition - to say it nicely - misses the mark... All the subtle orchestrations and performance of the original score is lost and all I hear now is a wash of mediocre synthesizer sounds... The original score had lots of emotion reflected in the way Vangelis plays on his keyboards, and this aspect is totally lost here.

Maybe Vangelis didn't wish to release The Bounty, but now my memory of the score is being tarnished with this... Avoid!

David

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2011 - 6:30 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I'm a fan of this score but I think I'll pass on this one.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2011 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)

Utterly pointless, the trick with Vangelis isn't just the themes he comes up with (he creates them 'live' apparently) but the whole performance thing. Nobody else comes close to really getting that Vangelis sound, and The Bounty was Nemo-era, analogue synths that are sadly obselete now. So why try to 'cover' a filmscore without any written filmscore to go by with modern synths that can only approximate the sound?

I remember when Blade Runner was released without a soundtrack album, so many cover versions of the End Title were done over the years, and all sounded horrible and fake.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2011 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   reneintoys   (Member)

It is possible to re-create, or to come as near as possible to the authentic sound !

Just listen to this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b6twrgtgKc&feature=related


You weren't kidding. GET THAT GUY to re-recored a Vangelis score if you need to. He gets it. Wow.


A very nice Vangelis interpretation indeed, not exactly a Yamaha CS80/ Roland Vocoder plus sound but he is getting very close to those magic instruments. I like the way he improvise to Vangelis original music
I definately love to have a cd with this guys music and his Vangelis Compositions. Because I don't think I can bear the patience anymore to wait for any original Vangelis work gets released some day.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2011 - 3:50 PM   
 By:   Elmo Bernstein   (Member)

The Bounty was Nemo-era, analogue synths that are sadly obselete now. So why try to 'cover' a filmscore without any written filmscore to go by with modern synths that can only approximate the sound?

Vangelis' favorite synth, The Yamaha CS80, is no longer made but there is software made which brings all of its sonic features right into one's computer.

http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/cs-80v/intro.html

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2012 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

End title as heard in the film followed by the version on the 'Themes' album.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2014 - 1:25 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I watched THE BOUNTY for the first time today, knowing full well that no original soundtrack was ever officially released. A search at Soundtrack Collector and on this board led to information regarding the BSX re-creation of the soundtrack. I find it interesting that, although there is not a single positive comment regarding the BSX release in this thread, all 2,000 copies of that CD were sold, and it is commanding high prices in the aftermarket.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2019 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I just ordered the BSX re-recording!

 
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