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 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 9:58 PM   
 By:   Graham   (Member)

The Book Thief

Mentioned yet?

Graham

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2021 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

Any chance of Mike Matessino doing his usual spectacular job on an expansion of SABRINA?

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2021 - 11:14 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

love the rhapsodic opening and closing cues from Sabrina. The rest of the score is good but not at the same level as that piano piece with orchestra. It's similar to Stepmom with that mini concerto for Chris Parkening's guitar and orchestra (The Days Go by ).

I think Accidental Tourist and Angela's Ashes have multiple standout tracks by comparison.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2021 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I think it says a lot about Williams' 90s output that this wonderful score is my LEAST favourite of his from the decade.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2021 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

There’s quite a bit of music that didn’t make it on to the album including a pop montage cue early in the film. I’d love to have all that stuff.

I've been thinking of SABRINA lately as I've been listening to Williams' wonderful jazz arrangements for Andre Previn from the 1960s and SABRINA comes closer than any score he's done to capturing the light and graceful writing he did back then.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2021 - 10:42 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

It's nice. I love the theme. (I have it on Hollywood '96.) But I like Always better.

I loved the film until everyone told me not to. I still might. I haven't watched it in 20 years.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2021 - 3:05 AM   
 By:   Coco314   (Member)

I'll go along with those who found the movie... terrible.

Importantly I had seen and very much loved the original. Missing here is Wilder's unique touch on aristocracy, the Upper/lower class thing viewed through a great glass/window imagery, and the unbeatable charm of Audrey Hepburn. 

Julia Ormond sure had a thankless job to live up to such an icon, and she was blooming up at the time (straight from "Legends of the Fall" and "First Knight"), and she has completely vanished since, and it's not hard to see why. I found her completely bland. The humour also fell very flat (again the Paris section has much more charm in the original), it's hard to imagine that the director of "Tootsie" made this.
Also, Ford is of course good, but I think the casting of Bogart helped more the story in the original. (Spoiler) It's like more of a surprise that Boggard would end up with Hepburn instead of the more handsome Holden - here it's like, well sure, Ford will get the girl in the end... 

Now on the score. I LOVE the piano cue. It's really a fantastic, instant-classic piece as only Williams seems to be able to pull off. I never grew tired of it, I dream someday to make a montage of family pictures / home movies on it. 

The rest of the score I am less interested in, and, I don't know if some other found it that way, I found that the score didn't feel as an integral part of the picture. On most Williams scores  you have a strong connection - take "The Terminal", "The accidental Tourist", the scores are very noticable but fit the movie like a glove like it's always been there -, here, it seemed to me at the time that the score was composed outside of it and kind of pasted on. I dunno. Unfortunately I have no interest into seeing the movie again to pinpoint exactly why.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2021 - 3:22 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I don't really remember the film that much, other than it being disposable Hollywood romantic tripe with not very likeable characters (rich, spoilt, obnoxious have-it-alls).
The music is very classy though.
Mainly pleasant cocktail lounge background music.
Very romantic.
I also enjoy the How Can I Remember song/melody more than the Moonlight one.
But I do love the dramatic score cues a lot (Linus' New Life, Nantucket).

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2021 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

[pet-peeve release]

This thread demonstrates one of my long-time defenses of composers:

A. If you have not seen the film for which the music was created, then you are assessing the soundtrack.
B. If you have seen the film for which the music was created, then you are assessing the score.
C. If you have seen the film but not heard the soundtrack...score.
D. If you have seen the film and heard the soundtrack...score/soundtrack but express with care (to be fair to composer).

Thank you. Carry on!

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2021 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

I’m the last person who would defend the film - the original is impossible to beat. Wilder’s cynical take on the upper crust is replaced by a sort of fawning affection for such people in the remake and the pacing is grimly slow and plodding. Ormond is terrible.

Nevertheless Williams rises above the material (as he often does) and there are many thoughtful variations on the four major themes that I think would be worth having. Given that the film is chatty and short on the kind of visual magic that he usually works with that the score is so good is a minor miracle.

I suspect the issue here could be the way the album was produced. Much of the score gave way to the songs and a 10 minute medley of old standards that wasn’t exactly lively.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2021 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I’m the last person who would defend the film - the original is impossible to beat. Wilder’s cynical take on the upper crust is replaced by a sort of fawning affection for such people in the remake and the pacing is grimly slow and plodding. Ormond is terrible.

Nevertheless Williams rises above the material (as he often does) and there are many thoughtful variations on the four major themes that I think would be worth having. Given that the film is chatty and short on the kind of visual magic that he usually works with that the score is so good is a minor miracle.

I suspect the issue here could be the way the album was produced. Much of the score gave way to the songs and a 10 minute medley of old standards that wasn’t exactly lively.


wink

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2021 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Lovely remake - terrific score.

Strong first 40 minutes - funny moments thanks to Harrison Ford.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2021 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Wilder, Bogart, Hepburn, Holden . . . all icons, and I am of the age where I view each of these artists in the top tier of their craft.

But I much prefer the remake. Bogart is miscast, Holden is miscast, Hepburn is perfect. While the film is witty and charming, it is also occasionally clumsy, particularly in the pacing.

The remake, for me, is a home run all around. It is my favorite Ford movie. Kinnear is perfect. Ormond is good, convincing as pre-Paris Sabrina and post-Paris Sabrina.

Williams' score is good.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2021 - 8:10 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Wilder, Bogart, Hepburn, Holden . . . all icons, and I am of the age where I view each of these artists in the top tier of their craft.

But I much prefer the remake. Bogart is miscast, Holden is miscast, Hepburn is perfect. While the film is witty and charming, it is also occasionally clumsy, particularly in the pacing.

The remake, for me, is a home run all around. It is my favorite Ford movie. Kinnear is perfect. Ormond is good, convincing as pre-Paris Sabrina and post-Paris Sabrina.

Williams' score is good.


Wow. I agree with everything except "favorite Ford movie". But that was the era when I saw every Ford movie on opening night.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

IMO, it is one of the lesser score in Williams oueuvre - which still means its miles ahead of many other scores. Again he proves that he can write enchanting melodies like no one else, and the romance the great Sydney Pollack wanted to stress is perfectly enhanced.

Expansion? Every Williams score deserves one.

 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   darthbrett   (Member)

It's one of only a few of Ford's films that I have actually never seen. Ditto in terms of Williams' scores, as I have never heard it. At some point I need to pick up the score I guess and give it a whirl.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 3:42 PM   
 By:   William R.   (Member)

I remember this was released at the same time as NIXON. Williams had taken a two-year hiatus from films after SCHINDLER'S LIST, and it was fascinating to have him back with two completely contrastive scores. To a lot of critics Williams was still pegged as a purveyor of bombast, and I have to imagine he enjoyed writing a score of such effortless charm as SABRINA. As for the film, I felt about it the same way I felt about Steve Martin's FATHER OF THE BRIDE; pleasant and inoffensive enough, but redundant if you've seen the original.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2021 - 11:55 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

I remember this was released at the same time as NIXON. Williams had taken a two-year hiatus from films after SCHINDLER'S LIST, and it was fascinating to have him back with two completely contrastive scores.
Nearly three scores ! He was approached to score Bridges of Madison County.

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2021 - 1:07 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Julia Ormond sure had a thankless job to live up to such an icon, and she was blooming up at the time (straight from "Legends of the Fall" and "First Knight"), and she has completely vanished since,

To my surprise, she actually showed up recently, as the main antagonist in the Walking Dead spin-off series WORLD BEYOND. I think she had, and has, an aura about her that made her perfectly cast in SABRINA. It was also nice that the late Sydney Pollack got to reunite with Williams on a feature film after they worked together in television decades earlier.

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2021 - 7:54 AM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

Bravo Maestro !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEcrylolMEA

 
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