Film Score Monthly
FSM HOME MESSAGE BOARD FSM CDs FSM ONLINE RESOURCES FUN STUFF ABOUT US  SEARCH FSM   
Search Terms: 
Search Within:   search tips 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2024 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Big X   (Member)

this is not causing too much hype, I see...

Maybe because too many Horner titles in a spate of few months, it is now becoming an expectation.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2024 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I love this score and am very happy it now has a complete edition!

Maybe "Astride The Ant" is a different take than the version of the cue that makes up the second half of the track "Flying Szalinki". We'll see!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2024 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   connorb93   (Member)

Such a mixed bag of a score. I can be a big time Horner apologist, but this score is really frustrating at times. Take the "Ant Rodeo" cue...it's shocking how much of a copy/paste it is of "Rustling" from Natty Gann. If Horner actually physically wrote all that out again for this movie, I'm impressed! As a bonus you get to near Neville's theme from The Rocketeer for the first time at the start!

Then there's the reuse of the "Chimp Rumble" music from Project X...it works wonderfully, but it's hard to look past it. On top of the borrowed "homages" to Rota, Scott, and even Grusin...it can be a bit embarrassing as a fan to say he kind of sold out on this one.

But yes...I'm interested!

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2024 - 1:59 PM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)


No mention of Master composer Nino Rota. Odd.


The big difference is, Raymond Scott’s estate sued Disney for credit and Rita’s did not.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2024 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   neumation   (Member)


No mention of Master composer Nino Rota. Odd.


The big difference is, Raymond Scott’s estate sued Disney for credit and Rita’s did not.


Raymond Scott sold his publishing rights to Warner Bros in the 1940s. As far as I know, the claim that his estate sued and settled with Disney has never been substantiated. For what it is worth, the music editor told me that everyone was credited on the cue sheet. These credits are often not required to be included in the liner notes for a CD.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2024 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

These credits are often not required to be included in the liner notes for a CD.

Credited or not, the lift is self-evident, egregiously obvious.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2024 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

Such a mixed bag of a score. I can be a big time Horner apologist, but this score is really frustrating at times. Take the "Ant Rodeo" cue...it's shocking how much of a copy/paste it is of "Rustling" from Natty Gann. If Horner actually physically wrote all that out again for this movie, I'm impressed! As a bonus you get to near Neville's theme from The Rocketeer for the first time at the start!

Then there's the reuse of the "Chimp Rumble" music from Project X...it works wonderfully, but it's hard to look past it. On top of the borrowed "homages" to Rota, Scott, and even Grusin...it can be a bit embarrassing as a fan to say he kind of sold out on this one.

But yes...I'm interested!


Hate to break it to you but Rustling/Ant Rodeo is actually a lift from Copeland's Appalachian Spring (that appears again in Fievel Goes West). Nevelle's theme from "The Rocketeer" also first appeared in Captain EO.

Not that I'm meaning to pour gasoline on a fire but facts are facts here. Honey is one of the few scores where the lifts sort of get under my skin but its like I said above: temp track bleed, more than anything else, is the name of the game in this score.

What's funny is I've always heard the story it was the Rota estate, not the Scott estate, that sued. Some wild rumors have gotten out of the control over the years. Like numation said there's not one shred of evidence anyone sued over Honey.

I've also read the same as neumation about the cue sheets. No doubt Horner was given marching orders to use what he used and it was okayed legally.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2024 - 2:37 PM   
 By:   neumation   (Member)

These credits are often not required to be included in the liner notes for a CD.

Credited or not, the lift is self-evident, egregiously obvious.


It was intended to be self-evident and egregiously obvious, which is the joke. It’s clearly a deliberate reference to Golden Age cartoons. Horner was instructed to interpolate it into his score.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2024 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   neumation   (Member)

What's funny is I've always heard the story it was the Rota estate, not the Scott estate, that sued. Some wild rumors have gotten out of the control over the years. Like numation said there's not one shred of evidence anyone sued over Honey.

I've also read the same as neumation about the cue sheets. No doubt Horner was given marching orders to use what he used and it was okayed legally.


The rumors never die. Regardless of how little proof has been supplied. I beg someone, anyone, to find some evidence that a lawsuit ever happened.

 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2024 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

These credits are often not required to be included in the liner notes for a CD.

Credited or not, the lift is self-evident, egregiously obvious.


It was intended to be self-evident and egregiously obvious, which is the joke. It’s clearly a deliberate reference to Golden Age cartoon. Horner was instructed to interpolate it into his score.


My apologies. I was referring to Master Composer Nino Rota.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 30, 2024 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

this is not causing too much hype, I see...

Well i totally forgot about this releasing and made an order yesterday morning, so this one will have to wait. Whoopsy daisies...

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2024 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   panavision   (Member)

James Horner fatigue? big grin

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2024 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

James Horner fatigue? big grin

There is no such thing. That does not exist!

But I would say that being a Horner fanatic!

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2024 - 8:00 PM   
 By:   funkymonkeyjavajunky   (Member)

Has anyone compared the sound quality to the previous release?

 
 Posted:   May 3, 2024 - 10:01 PM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

Nobody’s heard it yet

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2024 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Funny thing happened, my copy shipped from Intrada in California, passed Minnesota where I live, to New York and back to Minnesota today.

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2024 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Funny thing happened, my copy shipped from Intrada in California, passed Minnesota where I live, to New York and back to Minnesota today.

I had one go via Burkina Faso. So the tracking said.

 
 
 Posted:   May 4, 2024 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   rich.sherrill   (Member)

The JAMES HORNER flood doesnt end....

I certainly hope not. I'm still waiting for reissues of 'House of Cards' and 'A Far Off Place'!

 
 Posted:   May 5, 2024 - 4:22 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

The JAMES HORNER flood doesnt end....

I certainly hope not. I'm still waiting for reissues of 'House of Cards' and 'A Far Off Place'!


You missed A Far Off Place BOTH times?!

https://www.discogs.com/release/1801020-James-Horner-A-Far-Off-Place-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack (the 1993 release)

https://www.discogs.com/release/11116070-James-Horner-A-Far-Off-Place-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack (the 2014 expansion).

 
 
 Posted:   May 5, 2024 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   scallenger   (Member)

I echo wanting a reissue of A Far Off Place back in circulation. I wasn't even aware of the score until after the 2014 release went out of print. I have since heard it online and think it's fantastic and would definitely purchase it at a "legit" price again (not secondhand), even if it is the same program from 2014.

 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
© 2025 Film Score Monthly. All Rights Reserved.
Website maintained and powered by Veraprise and Matrimont.