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I didn't check for better versions or if 'this is it's, but here's the film. I thought it was on VHS, but apparantly not! Got Mandela'd there....
https://youtu.be/EqpsPjLTzWo?si=yA2eivIbl9nmVjy-
All for folks discovering this, and I love the score,,really, but....just too many times to the well on some of this stuff. All for a poorly performed work for a forgotten lost film.
How about another go at NIGHT CROSSING without the clicks apparently myself and 5 others only can hear?
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I can hear them. I would LOVE a revisit of Night Crossing (surely a magician like Chris Malone can tackle those clicks?) or The Mummy (a mix more faithful to the film). I would also buy a 2CD Explorers edition if Intrada felt like revisiting that.
But I'm still grateful for a new and better sounding edition of Inchon, even if I do wish someone had tested out those safeties back in 2020! (Or better yet, Len Engel should have back in 1988!)
Yavar
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I can hear them.
So can i. Thankfully, I've held on to the previous editions. In fact, I've been way more careful about that in the last few years.
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Scores like this deserve to be revisited and remain in print. I have the prior release and I'm happy with it. If you have 4 prior releases of this already, are you truly compelled to buy it again for some improved sound? Have you been happy with what you had all these years? Is you collecting addiction that strong? Nobody is coming over, putting a gun to your head and forcing you to spend money on this. If you are complaining that you now "have" to by this 5th go around, then honestly Intrada isn't the problem. I used to be like that. At some point, I realized that I was obsessing over small things.
Save your money or maybe just buy something else.
If this near-guaranteed sellout helps fund other releases, it's great. Keep 'em coming.
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If Intrada is made up of people so obsessive about what they do that they'll make available any possible improvements to their releases that they come across, then I for one am very grateful for their eccentricities!
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"Jesus Wept...."
I have a 2cd version of Intrada's INCHON, version whatever.
I'm so happy with this!
It sounds amazing, covers every base.
If you dont have this middling, forgotten, poorly performed, no matter the mastering album of this workmanlike Goldsmith piece, ENJOY!
All 2 of you, new to the JG catalogue.
How is Facecrook or IG responding?
Excitement? Crickets??
I don't understand why this announcement is getting to me so deeply.
The free time Intrada has "thanks" to asshole actors approving their images on a...."CD"?!?! (Anyone still buy these??).
I SWEAR, it kills my heart to slag Intrada so much, but....Seriously.
Any youth, young new score fans, eager for this LOST film's score, easily a forgotten footnote and "black patch" in this composer's resume.
Venom aside (sorry, truly, had to), I hope this release spurs Intrada. Truthfully.
Dunno if this endeavor will boost more Tinkbells (Hi & Love Solium!!!), I hope the tape repair hours were worth it.
I can't see anyone who's a part of this community in the past 10-30 years giving a shit. If so....kudos! You'll have the finest quality INCHON EVER!!!
(Please forgive me, Feigelson & Fake. I'm not tryna degrade the incredible work you do on all fronts.....)
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If Intrada is made up of people so obsessive about what they do that they'll make available any possible improvements to their releases that they come across, then I for one am very grateful for their eccentricities!
Fully agree... keep 'em coming, the more stuff that gets re-released and redone, the better. Personally, I tend not to buy the same recording over and over again, but many people will buy these even for the first time.
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Well Thierry, it costs time/money to have tapes transferred. I can well understand why Intrada would think mixed-down Len Engel “safeties” wouldn’t be worth transferring if they have earlier generation sources which Engel himself favored in the past. Just as I can understand why the team behind the FSM Star Trek II didn’t pay to have the other analogue source transferred, which later resulted in the much better sounding LLL edition.
And speaking of LLL, how many times has Die Hard been released and rereleased with better sound? The last rerelease made the most difference, as I recall. Are we also going to shame LLL (to say nothing of Varese for not only Die Hard but Predator, and others later improved by other labels) and suggest they intentionally released something poorer sounding, in order to later re-charge people for the same score again in better sound?
Yavar
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Feb 10, 2024 - 1:32 PM
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Sartoris
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Of course not Yavar, they certainly didn't do this intentionally. I never said that and never will.
What I mean is that the INCHON music and presentation may now have sounded and looked good enough with the last 3 CD set edition so that Intrada could have passed on a 4th visit so early after their 3 CD set release (even if sold out)...because this is always the same music. A bit too easy for me I am afraid.
This is always the same debate: there are for a while way too much reissues (each time expanded or (said) technically improved allright)...while too less world premieres or at least CD premieres.
Michael Kamen's LIFEFORCE, James Horner's DEADLY BLESSING, these were great world premieres, just to name 80ies titles. James Horner's BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS, Michael Kamen's COMPANY BUSINESS: fantastic expansions!
Now some stuff like Dave Grusin's WINNING, Michael Kamen's THE NEXT MAN or David Whithaker's HAMMERHEAD, these would be great CD premieres, just a few examples.
Not to speak of the hundreds of never released film and TV scores from the 1965>1980 era to any premiering.
However, if big sales on INCHON may eventually fund (or at least launch as viable) our much desired Goldsmith's PURSUIT/CRAWLSPACE twofer new recording, I am ok with that....
(PS: I have 2 Intrada PREDATOR editions (the black one and the red one) and 3 DIE HARD editions in my collection - it is not as if I hadn't bought them - I really like that stuff and do fund the labels my own way for sure, enough to feed some expectations).
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Nobody is coming over, putting a gun to your head and forcing you to spend money on this.
After hearing this for years as a complaint all across the internet, I can't help but to wonder that this idea should've been a horror franchise by now.
"Coming this October... The Capitalist... You either buy OR YOU PAY."
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Feb 12, 2024 - 5:31 PM
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Amer Zahid
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INCHON (2024 REMASTERED - 3CD)
Music Composed and Conducted by Jerry Goldsmith
Label: Intrada Special Collection Volume ISC 501
Film Date: 1982
Album Date: 2024
Time: 162.31
Tracks: 72
Intrada again reissues popular Jerry Goldsmith action score!
Intrada again reissues popular Jerry Goldsmith action score! Issued several times previously and selling out each time, Intrada yet again issues popular and exciting score for Korean War drama but with a change of face:. Master elements for the score, recorded in Italy, all survived in several formats with composer Goldsmith and engineer Len Engel working from and preferring the 1” 8-track masters for our initial CD release and reissue. Subsequently, Intrada created new masters from these elements in tandem with the 1/2” 3-channel stereo film mixes, including editing between the formats. Based on assumptions they would prove inferior, the tapes never utilized were the 1/4” safeties, which were stereo mixes made and stored simply as backups in case of damage to all the other rolls of tape. We finally addressed those tapes expecting more of the same notoriously thin dynamics. Happily we were wrong. Reasonably free from blemishes and noise, these rolls proved to have crisper and cleaner audio with improved dynamics, allowing us to rebuild the entire previous 3-CD program with what should be the best audio available… famous last words? There are few guarantees in life, but the excitement and power of this score remains one of them! While the contents are ostensibly identical to the previous three-disc releases, we found a few additional early print takes and alternates were previously unreleased and, while offering no significant musical differences, might make Goldsmith completists just a little bit happier to take yet one more trip to the well. As before, the first CD offers the original 1982 soundtrack album in the best possible sound, the second CD presents the entire score utilizing the editorial assemblies created by the composer and engineer for our earliest reissue and the third CD carries the complete score in unedited fashion so bars at the end of cues previously edited together now play in their entirety. So three different presentations of this magnificent score, each with its own merits! The film itself, chronicling events surrounding the Korean war, had a much-troubled production history that spanned two years, saw the death of cast member David Janssen and ultimately led to the editing of more than a half hour of footage prior to its general release. Happily Goldsmith scored the longer version and all of his music survived in beautiful condition. Other film production credits were top drawer, including Terence Young (of James Bond fame) at the helm and stars Laurence Olivier, Jacqueline Bisset, Ben Gazzara, Toshiro Mifune and Richard Rountree in the cast. Goldsmith’s “Main Title” opens in aggressive, declamatory fashion, an abundance of propulsive energy and jagged rhythm that puts it in a very small family of Goldsmith title music that includes Night Crossing, Capricorn One, Face Of A Fugitive and The Salamander. The score is thematically rich with ideas for not only the conflict, but the locale and specific characters (Lim’s theme is an emotional highlight) as well. A sparingly used love theme and powerful action material for the tank sequences are major assets! Len Engel engineers, Arthur Morton orchestrates, Jerry Goldsmith composes, conducts. Intrada Special Collection 3-CD set available while quantities and interest remain!
CD 1 1982 Soundtrack Album
01. Main Title (2:26)
02. Resignation (2:17)
03. The Bridge (3:37)
04. The Church (4:03)
05. The Mines (4:24)
06. Task Force (3:12)
07. Medley (2:18)
08. Love Theme (2:55)
09. The Tanks (3:47)
10. Lim’s Death (3:18)
11. The Trucks (2:58)
12. Inchon Theme (3:28)
CD 2 2006 Score Assembly
01. Prologue And Main Title (3:53)
02. The Bridge (3:37)
03. The 38th Parallel (1:23)
04. Medley (2:18)
05. Love Theme (Album Version) (2:55)
06. The Aftermath (0:55)
07. The Tanks (3:47)
08. A Change Of Course (1:16)
09. The Church (2:29)
10. MacArthur’s Arrival (0:55)
11. The Harbor (1:20)
12. The Trucks (3:08)
13. Corpses (1:21)
14. The Children (Original) (0:51)
15. The Apology (2:43)
16. The Lighthouse (2:34)
17. The Clock Watcher (0:40)
18. The Mines (5:12)
19. Resignation (2:17)
20. The Landing (1:23)
21. Lim’s Death (2:12)
22. The Scroll (2:22)
23. Task Force (3:08)
24. Inchon Theme (3:24)
Total Time: 56:06
CD 3 Complete Score In Sequence
01. Prologue (1:41)
02. Main Title (2:26)
03. The Bridge (1:50)
04. The 38th Parallel (1:23)
05. MacArthur (1:00)
06. The Aftermath (0:55)
07. The Tragedy (1:14)
08. Tanks Arrive (1:59)
09. A Change Of Course (1:16)
10. The Church (2:29)
11. MacArthur’s Arrival (0:55)
12. The Harbor (1:20)
13. The Tanks (2:59)
14. The Trucks (3:08)
15. Lim And The Children (1:28)
16. Corpses (1:21)
17. The Pledge (0:39)
18. The Children (Original) (0:51)
19. The Apology (2:43)
20. The Clock Watcher (0:40)
21. The Lighthouse (2:34)
22. The Ships (2:23)
23. The Mines (4:31)
24. Resignation (2:17)
25. The Landing (1:23)
26. Lim’s Death (1:43)
27. The Scroll (2:22)
28. Task Force (Revised) (1:20)
29. Inchon Theme (3:24)
30. Love Theme (Album Version) (2:55)
Total Score Time: 57:17
THE EXTRAS
31. The Children (Revised) (0:48)
32. The Ships (Alternate) (2:26)
33. The Bridge (Early Take) (1:49)
34. The Pledge (Early Take) (0:42)
35. The Trucks (Early Take) (3:07)
36. Task Force (Original) (1:20)
Total Extras Time: 13:20
Total CD 3 Time: 67:40
https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12981/.f?sc=13&category=-113
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As I have no previous releases for this title, I'm in for a copy.
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