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 Posted:   Nov 4, 2023 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)

Ifunkube music in Shin was way out of place and badly tracked in.

I thought so as well upon my first listen of the score but when I saw the movie, my opinion changed. I like how the Ifukube music is tracked in. I'm also quite sure that I will appreciate the placement of the Godzilla suites more after seeing Minus One.

 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2023 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

The Gorecki influence is clear and obvious, maybe too obvious in cues like "Elegy", where for a second I thought it was just a straight up quote from one of the symphonies.

Symphony No. 3 to be precise. It's the only Górecki that's escaped the event horizon of the concert hall.

And perhaps one of these days producers will permit an assigned composer to adapt Ifukube and not merely regurgitate him.

 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2023 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   Ostinato   (Member)

I'm definitely intrigued with this score. I'll try to purchase it within the coming week. I've been purchasing tons of FSM's releases left and right so I'll probably throw this in with one of those orders soon.

Anyway, I hope I'll like it. Judging by the comments, it seems I will.


I too felt that Ifukube's music used for "Shin Godzilla" felt out of place for the most part. The end credits are especially out of place. The use of random cues for it completely lack consistency. Perhaps if the cues were newly recorded/adapted, then things would have been different.

 
 Posted:   Nov 4, 2023 - 1:32 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Having just heard the score on YT I can say its not really my kinda thing. I can visualize how it will work in the film and it will probably be an good fit, but as a stand alone listening experience its not something I'd go back to. That may change once I hear the music in context of the film, who knows.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2023 - 1:37 AM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)

I like what I hear. The score fits the plot which is just after the war, Japan trying recover, a new threat emerges: Godzilla. Looks and sounds more interesting than the goofy Hollywood movies.

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2023 - 2:28 AM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)

Judging by the comments on Twitter, Yamazaki (and/or) Sato seemed to have made the right decision to incorporate the Ifukube suites in the soundtrack. The Japanese audience loves the use of the Godzilla theme in the movie (and its score).
After all, tracking (Ifukube) music from other Godzilla films into newer Godzilla movies has a history in Japan wink
I see it as a kind of approach to honor the legacy of Godzilla music and that seems strange to western expectations...
After placing the suites at the end of the playlist of -1.0, I have now returned to the sequence of the album as it is. That way, as stylistically jarring as it may seem, it's like the good old Kaiju we all came to love is visiting a devastated post ww2 landscape and brings a bit of monstrous joy to the drama... (if that makes sense)
And... after all it's the movie that also celebrates Godzilla's 70th Birthday next year. And having musical cameos by "Godzilla vs. Mothra" and "King Kong vs. Godzilla" is cool big grin
But of course I understand the arguments against the placement of the suites on the soundtrack. I just don't share those sentiments.

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2023 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   pzfan   (Member)

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 Posted:   Nov 5, 2023 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Having just heard the score on YT I can say its not really my kinda thing. I can visualize how it will work in the film and it will probably be an good fit, but as a stand alone listening experience its not something I'd go back to. That may change once I hear the music in context of the film, who knows.

I have seen a few YT suites with Sato's music but it's mostly the atmospheric stuff earlier in the soundtrack. The more melodic or tonal stuff hasn't been posted from what I can see. If I only heard the first 3 tracks, I would be disappointed too, but the score really gains momentum as it progresses on the soundtrack.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2023 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

I listened it twice on youtube because I wanted to hear what all the fuss is about. It is not bad but I fail to hear that exceptional music most of you here find in this score. Actually what I like most are the Godzilla suites and a couple of tracks like Mission for instance. But on a whole I find it too "abstract" for my taste. I guess I will give it another try later, maybe it will grow on me. (On the other hand I should just leave it like this because my wallet definitely doesn't want to pay for a Japanese import CD right now... smile )

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2023 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I listened it twice on youtube because I wanted to hear what all the fuss is about. It is not bad but I fail to hear that exceptional music most of you here find in this score. Actually what I like most are the Godzilla suites and a couple of tracks like Mission for instance. But on a whole I find it too "abstract" for my taste. I guess I will give it another try later, maybe it will grow on me. (On the other hand I should just leave it like this because my wallet definitely doesn't want to pay for a Japanese import CD right now... smile )


Can you provide a link to the YT? I am curious to see if it's the whole score or just the ambient first few tracks. As many have confirmed, this is not traditional Godzilla music. It's very much drawn from Polish composers like Gorecki and is somewhat meditative..

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2023 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)


I have seen a few YT suites with Sato's music but it's mostly the atmospheric stuff earlier in the soundtrack. The more melodic or tonal stuff hasn't been posted from what I can see. If I only heard the first 3 tracks, I would be disappointed too, but the score really gains momentum as it progresses on the soundtrack.


The link in Solium's post links to the complete disc on Youtube. It's probably just not his cup of tea wink

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2023 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)

The score is on YouTube-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nSF22UnPYM&list=OLAK5uy_nKijviZzf94Tb_Eyh3vJrbLnOyuA4rFGA


The whole soundtrack, as published on disc

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2023 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

The score is on YouTube-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nSF22UnPYM&list=OLAK5uy_nKijviZzf94Tb_Eyh3vJrbLnOyuA4rFGA


The whole soundtrack, as published on disc


Thanks!

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2023 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   Ostinato   (Member)

The score is on YouTube-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nSF22UnPYM&list=OLAK5uy_nKijviZzf94Tb_Eyh3vJrbLnOyuA4rFGA


The whole soundtrack, as published on disc



Great! Now I can check it out to see if I should buy it or not.

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2023 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)

It's easily my favourite score of the year! A sensational score that I'll have on repeart for the next little while! Bloody brilliant!

-Erik-


This!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 5:16 AM   
 By:   chriscoyle   (Member)


I’ve listed to the score twice. I like it. I would say it’s a sound design kinda of score. The CD is not as loud as it sounds on Spotify, much more subtle. The tracks of the original theme are also very enjoyable. The first one is a little subdued and it fits nicely with the album concept. The second one is more a finale.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 5:40 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

It's easily my favourite score of the year! A sensational score that I'll have on repeart for the next little while! Bloody brilliant!

-Erik-


This!


I've listened to this score many many times. What might come off initially as atmosphere actually reveals a lot of interesting motion under the surface. Sato is employing sound mass concepts from Varese and Ligeti but in a less obvious way. There are more than a few tracks with tonal centre and identifiable music ideas that he recaps (ie Divine). I'm glad it's a departure from the standard fare we get for kaiju films because it matches the director's vision of his Godzilla. I said it before and I stand by the claim that Sato's music feels more modern concert-like than traditional film score.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 5:59 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm a big fan of Sato. Among my favs are KYOJO, MASQUERADE NIGHT, MORIBITO - GUARDIAN OF THE SPIRIT and UNMEI NO HITO -- incidentally, in many of these cases, he also provides suites and arrangements for more of a concert setting. But this didn't quite grab me, I'm afraid. Could be because I don't listen to, or enjoy, a lot of big orchestral action music anymore, unless it's from my formative years (like Arnold's GODZILLA, which I adore). I do agree, however, that the more explorative, less "huge" parts of the album are intriguing at times (I got a little bit of Goldenthal in your oft-mentioned track "Divine", David, but that of course points back to Corigliano and others). But it's very much in the lower register, all of it, which becomes a bit tiresome eventually.

The track "Pray" was nice.

Speaking of Gorecki, didn't they already use a piece of his for the trailer of Gareth Edward's GODZILLA a few years ago, the scene where the parachuters drop down?

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

I'm a big fan of Sato. Among my favs are KYOJO, MASQUERADE NIGHT, MORIBITO - GUARDIAN OF THE SPIRIT and UNMEI NO HITO -- incidentally, in many of these cases, he also provides suites and arrangements for more of a concert setting. But this didn't quite grab me, I'm afraid. Could be because I don't listen to, or enjoy, a lot of big orchestral action music anymore, unless it's from my formative years (like Arnold's GODZILLA, which I adore). I do agree, however, that the more explorative, less "huge" parts of the album are intriguing at times (I got a little bit of Goldenthal in your oft-mentioned track "Divine", David, but that of course points back to Corigliano and others). But it's very much in the lower register, all of it, which becomes a bit tiresome eventually.

The track "Pray" was nice.

Speaking of Gorecki, didn't they already use a piece of his for the trailer of Gareth Edward's GODZILLA a few years ago, the scene where the parachuters drop down?


For the Edwards' film trailer they used Ligeti's Requiem. smile

The Gorecki Symphony of Sorrowful Songs (3) appears to be inspiration for the track Elegy with its opening statement in the double basses and building from there with celli and violas.

I also get a Goldenthal sense from Divine (music that was used in the very effective Japanese trailer- I loathe the US version with its amped up trailer music fare).


I don't actually get the "big orchestra" feel from the score as a whole. It has many electronic sections fused with subtle orchestral coloration that often feels almost meditative. This is the kind of music I had expected to accompany a serious rendition of Godzilla so I'm quite ecstatic with the result. Opinions and expectations vary of course.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2023 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Off to see the movie tonite in the theater! Absolutely excited about the experience!

 
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