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Btw my pet peeve is " synths are anachronistic in a period piece. e.g. TITANIC.
I guess that's sort of a sub-category of "aesthetic anachronism." Even when I first saw Butch Cassidy in the early 70s, I found that "ba-ba-doo-bop" pop cue really distracting, and I was a pre-teen at the time.
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I enjoy it as a piece of music, but it's the film at its most "cutesy," which is what I like least about it. I do revere Bacharach's Casino Royale score, though.
I was very surprised when I watched Butch Cassidy again a few years ago and noticed how little score there is in it. I suspect it's one of the briefest of Oscar-winning scores.
I saw a tracked-in cue oddity recently -- the opening of Stuber, which starts with helicopter shots of Los Angeles at night, is scored by the Nelson Riddle/Bob Harris "Lolita Ya-Ya" for no particular reason.
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[startquote
Btw my pet peeve is " synths are anachronistic in a period piece. e.g. TITANIC.
I guess that's sort of a sub-category of "aesthetic anachronism." Even when I first saw Butch Cassidy in the early 70s, I found that "ba-ba-doo-bop" pop cue really distracting, and I was a pre-teen at the time.
Like you say, it may be ' inaporpriate' but not anachronism.
No one would say making a Tecnicolor. film set in 1909 is anachronistic because " color film wasn't invented yet".
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Most (nearly all) the musical instruments used in ancient world epics weren't invented then, but no one minds, but sometimes you hear the sound of an instrument & it grates. In the Charles Gerhardt RCA suite of The Adventures Of Robin Hood you can clearly hear a saxophone, & it just sounds wrong to me, which is daft really, but there you go, there's nothing logical about any of it.
Looking at the track list of Once Upon A Time In Hollywood at SAE, the Judge Roy Bean music is, Miss Lily Langtry, a lovely melancholy track (I was delighted when Lukas released an expanded CD of Roy Bean, & I've been listening to it regularly since Warner released the film on Blu-ray).
Once Upon A Time doesn't open until mid-August in the UK, so I'm going to have to wait a few weeks.
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The Pianoforte wasn't invented until 1800s.
So should a.biopic about Beethoven NOT use one?
Nuff said!
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Just saw the picture. Loved it. One question. Did Reni Santoni do a cameo as the theater manager?
I wondered who that was too. According to IMDB, that role was played by Ramon Franco.
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I also assumed that was Reni Santoni in the Mann Bruin scene but I couldn't find his name connected with the film anywhere. Coming right after Clu Gulager's cameo it would have been a nice double blast-from-the-past. (I used to see Gulager in the front row at the New Bev all the time but I never see him there anymore).
Seeing the Bruin in the film makes me picture OUAT...IH as a (long) double feature with Zodiac. I saw Zodiac two Saturdays in a row at the Bruin, and in the film my favorite departed LA theater, the Mann National, portrayed (the interior of) my favorite departed SF theater, the Northpoint.
Regarding aesthetic anachronism, it occurred to me before I saw the later posts that pretty much any great Biblical score (Rozsa, Newman, Bernstein, Herrmann, Waxman) is anachronistic by those standards since that style of music did not exist in that era. But much as I enjoy that genre of epic, they'd be a lot less enjoyable without those spectacular scores.
One area of aesthetic anachronism (sorry for overusing that phrase -- I'm not trying to make it "a thing," it just seems germane in these cases) that gets more attention is digital cinematography, such as that smeary look Michael Mann gave Public Enemies which a lot of people found distracting (I found it more ugly). Certainly in the earlier days of digital cinematography, there were films like Factory Girl and The Other Boleyn Girl where that visual slickness distracted from the period setting.
Though it didn't get to me emotionally as a movie, I thought Todd Haynes' Carol was a remarkable cinematic recreation of its era (an era before my time), partly because the softness of the Super 16 photography felt aesthetically correct (the sound mix was also a big factor).
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Scott, I wasn't able to spot Gulager, but I hope to catch him when I see the film again in a few days. Was his cameo on the "Lancer" set?
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Scott,
I worked at the Northpoint
Best sound system EVER!
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CAROL was a great looking film!
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Scott, I wasn't able to spot Gulager, but I hope to catch him when I see the film again in a few days. Was his cameo on the "Lancer" set?
He was the cashier at the bookstore in Westwood that sold Sharon/Margot the copy of Tess of the d'Urbervilles.
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Scott, I wasn't able to spot Gulager, but I hope to catch him when I see the film again in a few days. Was his cameo on the "Lancer" set?
He was the cashier at the bookstore in Westwood that sold Sharon/Margot the copy of Tess of the d'Urbervilles.
Ah! Thank you. I actually said, "Ah ha," in the theater as well during this scene. Polanski, of course, made a movie of "Tess" 10 years after the events of "...in Hollywood" dedicating it "For Sharon."
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Scott,
I worked at the Northpoint
Best sound system EVER!
I saw a lot of great stuff there, including the famous preview screening of Star Wars. (My current list-making obsession is a spreadsheet of every film I've seen in the theater, including the theaters I saw them at. By the end of the summer I'll probably hit the 9,000 mark. I've made airport-style codes for each theater - the Northpoint is NPT).
I saw the 70mm, no-credits version of Apocalypse Now there (complete with program handout), which was great even though two of the reels were out of order and they had to stop the film.
(When I first saw Phantom Thread in 70 at the Arclight, they accidentally started with the final reel but caught the mistake pretty quickly.)
I've never had a great ear for sound systems, so that aspect of the theater was probably lost to me.
I think The Prince of Tides was the last thing I saw there. After the film I walked across San Francisco in the rain, took the bus to Mill Valley, and managed to break my toe on a bookshelf while trying to pet my mother's cat. A magic Christmas!
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Scott,
I worked at the Northpoint
Best sound system EVER!
I saw a lot of great stuff there, including the famous preview screening of Star Wars. (My current list-making obsession is a spreadsheet of every film I've seen in the theater, including the theaters I saw them at. By the end of the summer I'll probably hit the 9,000 mark. I've made airport-style codes for each theater - the Northpoint is NPT).
I saw the 70mm, no-credits version of Apocalypse Now there (complete with program handout), which was great even though two of the reels were out of order and they had to stop the film.
(When I first saw Phantom Thread in 70 at the Arclight, they accidentally started with the final reel but caught the mistake pretty quickly.)
I've never had a great ear for sound systems, so that aspect of the theater was probably lost to me.
I think The Prince of Tides was the last thing I saw there. After the film I walked across San Francisco in the rain, took the bus to Mill Valley, and managed to break my toe on a bookshelf while trying to pet my mother's cat. A magic Christmas!
I saw. APOCALYPSE preview screening there. I stole a couple of passes!
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Howzit doin' at the b.o; reviews?
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Howzit doin' at the b.o; reviews?
Good box office; apparently it's Tarantino all-time biggest b.o. weekend.
Some excellent reviews, other reviews are cautious about the provocative material within the movie - not a surprise; this is decidedly not a lulling, sweet summer film! 
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