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 Posted:   Jul 22, 2019 - 4:27 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Glad to see Rosenman isn't included.

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2019 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

If he is selling DEEPSTAR SIX do you think A @ C will grab it?



Nah!

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2019 - 4:39 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I'm looking, but I see no listings via the links sent by SAE.

All bought out already! And in record time.


Perhaps read the entirety of the announcement?


Titles will be available for purchase Tuesday, July 23rd at 12 Noon Eastern.


Like duh? Why provide a link to nothing? Just wait until the sale date.

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2019 - 4:42 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

It's too bad SAE announced they were re-selling his retail CDs since it's creating a desperate auction-like reaction. It doesn't matter to me who previously owned them, so why not simply add them to the "used" section with the other over-priced CDs I can't afford.

Agreed. Making an event out of this seems a tad bit bad taste.

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2019 - 9:00 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

I suspect that many items will be high priced. Which is a good thing if all the proceeds go to some Nick Redman sponsored trust etc.

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2019 - 10:20 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

If he is selling DEEPSTAR SIX do you think A @ C will grab it?



Nah!


I'll grab it first.
The I'll hold it hostage.

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2019 - 10:38 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

No countdown?

Btw just picked up PAT GARRETT...with a commentary by our esteemed Mr. Redman.
Looking forward to hearing his insights!

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2019 - 10:39 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I'm looking, but I see no listings via the links sent by SAE.

All bought out already! And in record time.


Perhaps read the entirety of the announcement?


Titles will be available for purchase Tuesday, July 23rd at 12 Noon Eastern.


Like duh? Why provide a link to nothing? Just wait until the sale date.


The Solium Admonitions

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2019 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   Great Escape   (Member)

I suspect that many items will be high priced. Which is a good thing if all the proceeds go to some Nick Redman sponsored trust etc.

I'm certain that these are on commission from Julie Kirgo with proceeds to she and his other heirs.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2019 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

I'm not trying to smack anyone down, really, just saying where I fell when I heard about this, and more after considering it, wondering how Julie might feel about things in this moment. It's hard for anyone not to leap to a conclusion about motivations, whether our first inner response sounds like "How lovely!" or "Really? I wonder why!" or "How could you?", so I'll share mine.

I wasn't inclined toward the more cynically inflected suppositions to which this sale could point. It is definitely a stretch to infer that Julie Kirgo has no interest in this stuff. I know a little of her from private groups, and she has as much passion for film music as many here. She loves much, and finds Alex North particularly enriching. I do not know how the professional and personal intertwine or when was which, but despite the recency of their marriage, at the very latest she has been a close partner with Nick since Twilight Time began, that a passion project of his, for sure, and hers as well, I believe, to get things out which the studios wouldn't, before the physical media format died away.

Nick Redman seems to have been the kind of guy people who knew him, and of him, particularly would want to honor. Some we primarily want to cherish in memory, some we celebrate, some we mourn, primarily, but Nick seems to have fallen into the camp where the impulse to honor has been elevated by his convictions, his accomplishments and his character.

Given how he spent his last 25+ years, and what he said about it in the odd interview, it is clear to me that one of his drives was getting stuff out of the vaults in good shape to share with those who would appreciate it. One way to honor him, while accomplishing the practical necessities some have listed above, would be to make sure that the things which must be let go of find the best homes. In universities, things can be studied, or they can lie in the vault unasked for, given the courses of study and predispositions of students. A city library may soon fall prey to the notion that streaming has erased any future calls for permanent editions, and dump the discs in a sale, where, at 25ยข a pop, they may be purchased for their jewel cases, or just carelessly in a big, never to actually be listened to, stack, given the price. A local place, like an LA store could only reach those in LA.

The way what is done is being done, through Screen Archives, one of the bright thumbtacks on the map of movie music love, indicates to me the opposite of a dishonring or devaluing, nor does it imply something mercenary. I can't think of a way to make surest that his artifacts will go into hands that will most likely appreciate, treasure, and, above all, genuinely enjoy them.

That's how it hit me.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2019 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   W. David Lichty [Lorien]   (Member)

double

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2019 - 6:55 AM   
 By:   kjoseb   (Member)

Yes, a soundtrack CD collector faced with the "what will happen to his or her soundtrack CD collection upon death" question can included a provision in his or her will to have the collection donated to a local library. In my case, I took a different approach. A fellow soundtrack collector and friend, Don Trunick, faced the same question when he was 72--and began selling off his collection (at the time, he was the #1 collector of Ennio Morricone records in the U.S.). And, at the time, I was 52 and also had a large collection of soundtrack LPs but also a growing collection of soundtrack CDs increasingly competing for limited storage space in my home. So I began to sell off my LP collection via mail order and/or putting them up for auction on eBay, eventually disposing of the total collection of something like 2000 items (LPs and 45s).

Flash forward 20 years and I found myself also 72 and facing what to do with a soundtrack CD collection of over 2000 CDs. But, while now retired and with lots of time on my hands, I no longer wanted to go through all of the hassle of selling off the collection on eBay as it takes a lot of time to list a CD, process winning bids, hassles at times with getting paid, packaging the CDs, getting the packages to the post office, leaving feedback for winning bidders, etc., not even to mention how much postage rates have increased for media mail and especially so for mailing CDs to overseas destinations. Looking back to 20+ years ago, I'm thankful that USPS postage rates to mail LPs to an overseas destination were so much more reasonable back then--and included the option of shipping packages of LPs more cheaply by sea (surface) than by air. Now, shipping by surface overseas is no longer an option--a real bummer for soundtrack collectors on a limited budget!

So, not wanting to deal with the hassle in time, cost, etc. to dispose of my soundtrack CD collection via eBay--and not wanting to have my wife put the collection out of the curb after my death which she had threatened to do--I decided that I would look into the possibility of donating my collection to a university, more specifically, not just any university but one having a college of music offering a film music composition program or at least one film music composition course. Based on a Google search, I found several universities that have a film music composition program--or offer a film music composition course. Of course, there are such universities (e.g., UCLA) within a stone's throw of Hollywood. However, I discovered that the College of Music at Michigan State University, the university I attended in the 1960s, offered a film music composition course and hopes, with more resources, to expand the program. I contacted the College of Music, described the collection, and asked if they would be interested in having me donate the collection to the College. They replied yes but that the collection would need to be donated to the Michigan State University Library (as the College simply didn't have the space available to store my collection). The College arranged with the Library to handle the donation.

The next step was identifying a reputable firm in the Washington DC area that could appraise a soundtrack CD collection--and I was fortunate to locate a firm that would do the appraisal at a reasonable/affordable cost compared with a rough several thousand dollar quote I got from a New York-based firm). As it turned out, the out-of-pocked cost for the appraisal was less than 2% of the collection's appraised value. To support the appraisal, I provided a detailed Excel (spreadsheet) file of the collection (e.g., color-coded by genre--westerns, Spaghetti westerns, sci-fi, etc.) plus photograph of the CDs on the shelves on which the collection was stored, thus making it possible for the appraiser to do the appraisal without having to come to the house to physically inspect the collection. I also provided links to SAE's then-current offering of used CDs so that the appraiser could see the then-current prices at which older/rarer CDs were being sold.

With the appraisal soon to be in hand, and even before that, I had begun over several months to rip the collection to my computer, backing up the ripped albums twice to two external 4 TB hard drives so that I could continue to listen in the future to any of the collection's albums. Plus, with the appraisal, one has in hand the IRS-compliant paperwork one needs in order to to claim a deduction on one's income tax return for for one or more subsequent years.

I boxed the collection into 23 boxes (about 100 CDs per box) that I purchased for about $100 at The Container Store. I then shipped half of the boxes by USPS media mail from Virginia to Michigan; and drove the other half of the boxes by car to the MSU library when my brother and I did a road trip to East Lansing. Interestingly, the boxes shipped by media mail were delivered to the post office on Thursday -- and my brother and I drove from Virginia to East Lansing the following Monday. On Tuesday morning, we delivered the boxes to the MSU Library loading dock--where we discovered that the boxes shipped by media mail less than five days before had already been delivered to the library the day before on Monday!

I met with the library's Director of Development who showed me where the CDs would be stored and explained how the collection would be processed into the library's catalog--and that each CD would be catalogued as part of the "my name" collection that I had donated, with any of the CDs to be available not only to College of Library students but also to anyone eligible to borrow items from that library.

Unfortunately, changes in the U.S. tax law a year or so ago apparently now preclude taking as a tax deduction any of the costs associated with having the appraisal done, purchasing the shipping boxes, the postage to mail half of the boxes to the library, and/or miscellaneous cost associated with driving to East Lansing to deliver the other half of the boxes to the library.

The major bummer with this approach is that I no longer have access to the donated CDs' booklets/liner notes, though at least track listings can be accessed on discogs.com and/or soundtrack collector.com, while images of CD covers can be easily found via Google searches. On a more positive note, compared with a quarter century ago, there are now so many web pages/sites dedicated to film music/soundtracks and/or provide options to listen to (stream or download) film music (Amazon, iTunes, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube). With some soundtrack LPs now being offered again in vinyl and/or only as a digital download, it is an interesting question how much longer the CD collector will continue to have the option of buying a film's score/soundtrack on a physical CD, though several labels (notably Intrada, Kritzerland, La-La Land, Quartet, Varese Sarabande, etc.) in the U.S. or overseas still are producing soundtracks on CD that collectors are still buying. However, after purchasing a number of such limited edition CDs over the past couple of years, eventually I ripped them to my computer, backed them op on the two external hard drives, boxed them up, and donated them to the MSU Library.

Sadly, however, there are not enough hours in the day available to listen to all of the music one enjoys, not only film music but also other genres, including folk music, exotica, new age, and easy listening. On a more positive note, for each film music collector, there's no shortage of music to listen to while one ponders that "What will happen to my soundtrack CD collection after my death?"

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2019 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   mistermike   (Member)

In the comments above, there is a lot of speculation and hand-wringing over "what I think should have been done with this collection."

Having dealt with the estate of someone who passed away many years ago, I recall that the executor of an estate is typically expected to liquidate the estate's assets and make as much money as possible which goes towards the beneficiaries in the person's will.

Personally, I would not have just sold the items at a fixed price, such as seems to be the case. It would have been better to sell them at an auction like on Ebay. But this is just more speculation on my part.

I'm sure that SAE's servers will soon be doing a meltdown...

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2019 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

A lovely collection. I counted 442 titles just before noon and saw that it dropped to 441 - so at least one has sold already.

I was watching the site update since 11:45am as titles were slowly uploading to the page.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2019 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

A lovely collection. I counted 442 titles just before noon and saw that it dropped to 441 - so at least one has sold already.

I was watching the site update since 11:45am as titles were slowly uploading to the page.


I must be blind, because I can't find these titles on the SAE site.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2019 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

http://www1.screenarchives.com/display_results.cfm/category/691/REDMAN-CDS/

Down to 440.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2019 - 10:08 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

It would help if the first post included the link, listed in the "Company Labels." It's called "Redman CDs":

http://www1.screenarchives.com/display_results.cfm/category/691/REDMAN-CDS/

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2019 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

It would help if the first post included the link, listed in the "Company Labels." It's called "Redman CDs":

http://www1.screenarchives.com/display_results.cfm/category/691/REDMAN-CDS/


Updated. smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2019 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Just as I thought.
Not one disc I would purchase.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2019 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Yeah. I mentioned it before: their ' rarities' seem way overpriced.

..even the non- rarities( ILLUSTRATED MAN etc. Etc)

 
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