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 Posted:   Jul 23, 2019 - 11:43 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)



Bringing back a bunch of older composers like McCarty or Chattaway (both in their 70s) or Bell or Jones (both in their mid-60s), none of whom the producers have ever worked with, seems neither obvious nor sensible to me. In the case of Jones in particular, I suspect it would end much like his stints on TNG, Family Guy, and Lukas Kendall's recent short did... and Alex Kurtzman and company would be crazy to go down that path.


It does increasingly seem like Jones has made himself very difficult to work with. Such a shame for such a talented composer.

 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2019 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Just watch The Expanse instead.

And even though Shorter's music is just as superficial as Russo's, the synth-pad banality and ostinati driven mickey-mousing is easier to ignore underneath The Expanse's more engrossing narrative.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2019 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)



Bringing back a bunch of older composers like McCarty or Chattaway (both in their 70s) or Bell or Jones (both in their mid-60s), none of whom the producers have ever worked with, seems neither obvious nor sensible to me. In the case of Jones in particular, I suspect it would end much like his stints on TNG, Family Guy, and Lukas Kendall's recent short did... and Alex Kurtzman and company would be crazy to go down that path.


It does increasingly seem like Jones has made himself very difficult to work with. Such a shame for such a talented composer.


Wait Ron Jones isn’t doing Family Guy anymore?

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2019 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Ron Jones hasn't scored an episode of Family Guy since 2016. Walter Murphy scores it now.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2020 - 8:20 PM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)

Well, now that it has aired I was pleasantly surprised. There are a couple little fun things in this score. The most surprising is a reprisal of the Romulan theme dating all the way back to TOS’s Balance of Terror.

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2020 - 12:34 AM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

Well, now that it has aired I was pleasantly surprised. There are a couple little fun things in this score. The most surprising is a reprisal of the Romulan theme dating all the way back to TOS’s Balance of Terror.

Surprised to hear a couple of subtle quotes from JG’s TMP a few times and JG gets a credit at the end. Hoping for more. Some say the series will link up Nemesis with the JJ 2009 film. Looks like the surviving Romulans have Borg tech which might explain why Nero had that ridiculously powerful mining ship.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2020 - 1:54 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Ron Jones hasn't scored an episode of Family Guy since 2016. Walter Murphy scores it now.

That explains why he hasn't worked on The Orville. I guess things soured between him and MacFarlane? What a shame, though I can't say I'm entirely surprised. Watching the Q&A with the composers of TNG on the season 5 Blu-ray makes it all too apparent that he's full of himself. Chattaway seemed the most laid back of the bunch.

 
 Posted:   Jan 25, 2020 - 5:37 AM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

Surprised to hear a couple of subtle quotes from JG’s TMP a few times and JG gets a credit at the end. Hoping for more. Some say the series will link up Nemesis with the JJ 2009 film. Looks like the surviving Romulans have Borg tech which might explain why Nero had that ridiculously powerful mining ship.

That's exactly what happened. There was a lot of backstory for that movie that wasn't fleshed out in the actual film. Instead, it was covered in a four-part comic book series written by Orci and Kurtzman. The Borg technology, the creator of Spock's one-man ship, the evacuation of Romulus...it's all in there, and it was meant (at the time) to be considered canon.

https://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Countdown-J-Abrams/dp/1600104207

Of course, some stuff has been retconned based on the first episode of PICARD. Most notably, the resolution of the Data and B-4 storyline.

 
 Posted:   Jan 26, 2020 - 12:17 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

Well, now that it has aired I was pleasantly surprised. There are a couple little fun things in this score. The most surprising is a reprisal of the Romulan theme dating all the way back to TOS’s Balance of Terror.

Good stuff in this episode! There's a feature about the scoring in the The Ready Room hosted by Wil Wheaton.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2020 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

Yesterday on Twitter composer Jeff Russo tweeted this:

#StarTrekPicard soundtrack info coming sooooooon.... #Engage

It was nice to hear some TNG/Goldsmith in today's episode.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2020 - 6:43 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I remember a time, so so long ago, when you could get excited about a composer announcement for a series. But, that's long since warped away.

Warp factor ten.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2020 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Bringing back a bunch of older composers like McCarty or Chattaway (both in their 70s) or Bell or Jones (both in their mid-60s), none of whom the producers have ever worked with, seems neither obvious nor sensible to me. In the case of Jones in particular, I suspect it would end much like his stints on TNG, Family Guy, and Lukas Kendall's recent short did... and Alex Kurtzman and company would be crazy to go down that path.

Crazy? Why? 70s, mid-60s? You mean like Herrmann working with Scorsese or DePalma?

In any case, Star Trek? I've given up on that a long, long, long time ago. It was an amusing show back in the sixties, and then with the Kirk generation films, but the sanctimonious Picard and his prissy cohorts were an absolute boresville, to be perfectly frank.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2020 - 7:36 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Star Trek Picard is all momentum and no movement. Some interesting ideas but television is too fucking impatient that it doesn’t want to tell stories anymore, just have scenes for 40 minutes. No characters, just concepts. Ghastly music and cinematography too.

Cancel Red Alert.

Rating: D

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2020 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)

Star Trek Picard is all momentum and no movement. Some interesting ideas but television is too fucking impatient that it doesn’t want to tell stories anymore, just have scenes for 40 minutes. No characters, just concepts. Ghastly music and cinematography too.

Cancel Red Alert.

Rating: D


Y’all can speak for yourselves. I for one am enjoying it and am open to the new format and way of storytelling and can wait for the payoff of the story. It’s not multiple stories it’s one big story.

Russo isn’t my favorite composer admittedly but his Discovery score esp Season 2 has grown on me and he’s doing a decent job with Picard. Just hasn’t blown my socks off yet.

I’m just happy to get more Star Trek and esp get to see these characters again. Never thought we would get the chance.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2020 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

I liked Russo's score for the first episode but the second is probably more indicative of what the series will generally sound like, heavy on the electronics and thumping effects. Not my thing.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2020 - 2:40 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Y’all can speak for yourselves. I for one am enjoying it and am open to the new format and way of storytelling and can wait for the payoff of the story. It’s not multiple stories it’s one big story.

I love serialized TV shows, but this just falls in line with every other generic modern action movie/TV show. Faux grittiness, laughable fight scenes (characters running directly into gunfire so they can engage in hand to hand with the gunman [give me a damn break]), zero optimism. This is yet another entry to file under "Star Trek in name only."

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2020 - 7:04 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Y’all can speak for yourselves. I for one am enjoying it and am open to the new format and way of storytelling and can wait for the payoff of the story. It’s not multiple stories it’s one big story.

I love serialized TV shows, but this just falls in line with every other generic modern action movie/TV show. Faux grittiness, laughable fight scenes (characters running directly into gunfire so they can engage in hand to hand with the gunman [give me a damn break]), zero optimism. This is yet another entry to file under "Star Trek in name only."


Yes, STINO it is.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2020 - 7:14 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

It's just not fun. And I'm not talking about the lack of action, dune buggy chases or explosions. Star Trek was always fun when it did drama and action that felt very specific to Star Trek. What we get here feels like it belongs in other genres, not Star Trek. The synthetic storyline feels like it belongs in Blade Runner, the android powers comes off like an action scene from The Matrix (including ridiculous jumping distances).

Even the stuff that are unique to Star Trek feels wrong. The enemy is using transporters, they know exactly where the target is, so why not just beam the target to you instead of you to them? Shinzon did that with Picard in Nemesis. I only bring that up because this Picard series can't stop reminding us of that travesty.

Also take note. You can't have someone in Starfleet go all "Let them die!" on a whole species without proper built up. With Star Trek VI, you had Kirk with his long troubled history with the Klingons, the needless murder of his son and the Klingon Empire itself having the audacity to blame Kirk for those events. His view feels a lot more natural because we were there to experience the worst of it! Having ALL OF STARFLEET justify letting a whole civilization die just to keep "15 planets from leaving" means nothing to me.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2020 - 7:18 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

It's just not fun. And I'm not talking about the lack of action, dune buggy chases or explosions. Star Trek was always fun when it did drama and action that felt very specific to Star Trek.

Very well and succinctly put.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2020 - 8:53 PM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

First soundtrack details announced:

https://filmmusicreporter.com/2020/02/01/star-trek-picard-season-1-chapter-1-soundtrack-details/

I will probably pick this up, since I enjoy what I've heard so far. I am very disappointed, however, that the flashback teaser from Episode 2 -- my favorite cue of the series so far -- appears to have been omitted. Ah, well.

 
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