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 Posted:   May 30, 2019 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Strange that there is still no information on the composer?

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2019 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Maybe whomever they got hasn't worked out and they are rushing to get another composer, hence no announcement.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2019 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

This looks like a Rambo sequel in name only.

I'm complaining to someone at work about the hair being the issue. He just looks like Stallone-as-Himself mowing down all these people. Bruce Willis changed his hair (to NO hair) in the shitty new Die Hard movies, Mel Gibson did the same thing when he didn't use the Riggs hair in Lethal Weapon 4. It's strange, but the hair is hugely important to identifying the characters.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2019 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

As of last week Stallone was still shooting scenes for this. So that would explain the trailer coming together with some generic music. But it is strange that no one is seemingly signed on yet. Hope it means they are putting some real thought into who should do the score. Plenty of time by today's rushed schedules.
I'm really looking forward to it.

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2019 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

The sfx people seem to be trying to outdo each other these days, with the sound of a knife (or sword) being drawn. Whenever anyone unsheaths a blade or stabs with it, it rings or scrapes so loud, it's comical.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2019 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

This looks like a Rambo sequel in name only.

I'm complaining to someone at work about the hair being the issue. He just looks like Stallone-as-Himself mowing down all these people. Bruce Willis changed his hair (to NO hair) in the shitty new Die Hard movies, Mel Gibson did the same thing when he didn't use the Riggs hair in Lethal Weapon 4. It's strange, but the hair is hugely important to identifying the characters.


To be fair his hair changed (progressed? evolved?) through the first three movies. He never had a definining Rambo do. First one was shaggy 1982 hair, then that was volumized and curled a bit for Part II, then he went full on perm for Rambo III.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2019 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

This looks like a Rambo sequel in name only.

I'm complaining to someone at work about the hair being the issue. He just looks like Stallone-as-Himself mowing down all these people. Bruce Willis changed his hair (to NO hair) in the shitty new Die Hard movies, Mel Gibson did the same thing when he didn't use the Riggs hair in Lethal Weapon 4. It's strange, but the hair is hugely important to identifying the characters.


To be fair his hair changed (progressed? evolved?) through the first three movies. He never had a definining Rambo do. First one was shaggy 1982 hair, then that was volumized and curled a bit for Part II, then he went full on perm for Rambo III.


Yes, but it was always some sort of shaggy or long. My opinion stands!

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2019 - 7:39 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

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 Posted:   May 30, 2019 - 7:40 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

I guess you could say the singlet was also part of the character but that is long gone.

 
 
 Posted:   May 30, 2019 - 9:20 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

As much as I'd like another silly Rambo sequel, this one will probably be as disgustingly violent as the last one. Just have some more over the top fun, Stallone! Remember First Blood II?! I do!

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2019 - 9:52 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Awww.... He doesn't have his scars anymore. The one he got on his left cheek via his own knife from First Blood Part II is gone.

 
 Posted:   May 30, 2019 - 10:23 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)



The last Rambo film IMHO was just a nasty, unpleasant, poorly written, and poorly scripted failure of a film. It tried so hard to come off as "realistic" yet in many ways it was more glorified, with its ridiculous OTT violence, and more offensive than "Rambo III" could even manage. The shutter speed effect that was constantly employed during action scenes also made me want to vomit all over Stallone's best suit.

I'd rather watch Rocky V again... yes, you heard me right. Not Sly's finest hour. roll eyes


Am tired of reading critiques of realistic violence. Rather than arguing specific points pertaining to the realism, let me simply ask this... was Saving Private Ryan a realistic depiction of violence? If yes, then so is Rambo, Hacksaw Ridge, etcetera etcetera etcetera.

Perhaps an objection to heroics surrounding & engulfing that violence is a better argument to make, but stop attacking the appropriate depictions themselves. Newsflash: violence is violent.

 
 
 Posted:   May 31, 2019 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

I'm sure Stallone is aware that Goldsmith´s theme must be incorporated - just like Conti´s themes for Rocky were a major ingredient in the CREED-scores.

I´m hoping for Görannson to do this. But Tyler did not do a bad job with the last RAMBO. Maybe that working relationship will continue.

 
 Posted:   May 31, 2019 - 5:07 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Newsflash: violence is violent.

As the man himself said,

Stallone: That's exactly what would happen point blank with a .50 calibur. This has all been documented so let's just show it how it is.

 
 
 Posted:   May 31, 2019 - 5:23 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Did Tyler use or reference the original Goldsmith First Blood/Rambo theme in the last film?
I honestly can't remember.

 
 
 Posted:   May 31, 2019 - 5:32 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Did Tyler use or reference the original Goldsmith First Blood/Rambo theme in the last film?
I honestly can't remember.


He did. But the score as a whole was underwhelming (as so often is the case with Tyler).

I loved RAMBO IV as a film, however. A very subversive film in its use of operatic, over-the-top, splatter violence -- more a channeling of the character's psyche as a non-stop killing machine. It no longer reflects the specific, national trauma of the original film (a community suffering after it turns its back on Vietnam veterans who risked their life for them; unwittingly turning the trauma on to themselves), but it's now a more general comment about the horrors of war and the hellish visions as they manifest themselves in a single man's mind. It doesn't glorify violence in its explicit depictions, it undermines it. Much like UNFORGIVEN. I'm hoping this new film will continue some of that aesthetic.

 
 Posted:   May 31, 2019 - 12:16 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

I loved RAMBO IV as a film, however. A very subversive film in its use of operatic, over-the-top, splatter violence -- more a channeling of the character's psyche as a non-stop killing machine. It no longer reflects the specific, national trauma of the original film (a community suffering after it turns its back on Vietnam veterans who risked their life for them; unwittingly turning the trauma on to themselves), but it's now a more general comment about the horrors of war and the hellish visions as they manifest themselves in a single man's mind. It doesn't glorify violence in its explicit depictions, it undermines it. Much like UNFORGIVEN. I'm hoping this new film will continue some of that aesthetic.

I get the underlying points here, but I disagree in the sense that I don't think RAMBO earns them. Immediately with PART II, the franchise moved from subversively political survival film to jingoistic revenge fantasy. Rambo himself isn't even recognizable as the same character anymore, which is why I find it harder to track any intentional political subtext from one film to the next as anything more than projection. It's also the fourth film in the commercial franchise of an actor trying to stay relevant. I mean, I don't think Stallone resurrected the franchise after twenty years to make a political statement about the horrors of war. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the hell out of RAMBO and I'm looking forward to LAST BLOOD. RAMBO was trashy, splattery fun. Given the text, you could make this same philosophical argument about Jason Voorhees.

 
 Posted:   May 31, 2019 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Did Tyler use or reference the original Goldsmith First Blood/Rambo theme in the last film?
I honestly can't remember.


He did (though Jerry only got a little credit in the end credits; nothing over the main titles). Best part of the score. wink

Yavar

 
 Posted:   May 31, 2019 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

He used the predictable main Rambo theme yeah, but I was disappointed that he didn’t bother to explore the “Rambo doing cool stuff” motif. You know that 5 note motif that plays anytime he starts sneaking around or sprinting into action. Missed opportunity.

 
 Posted:   May 31, 2019 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

He used the predictable main Rambo theme yeah, but I was disappointed that he didn’t bother to explore the “Rambo doing cool stuff” motif. You know that 5 note motif that plays anytime he starts sneaking around or sprinting into action. Missed opportunity.

Agreed

 
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