Film Score Monthly
FSM HOME MESSAGE BOARD FSM CDs FSM ONLINE RESOURCES FUN STUFF ABOUT US  SEARCH FSM   
Search Terms: 
Search Within:   search tips 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 3:35 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

But Balfe brought a lot of it on himself, by pissing on his own profession and peers, in that infamous interview.

Link, please.

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 4:26 AM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

"Max Richter"

cool

"and Balfe"

mad

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Link, please.
------------------
"I don't know streets, mom always drives me"

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 5:57 AM   
 By:   Isaac The Red   (Member)

Link, please.

Here it is: BBC Sound of Cinema | Composing for Hollywood [2013-09-22]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxyVnTmpdRE

It is this interview people refer to.
The first segment with Lorne Balfe is 20 minutes in.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Thanks Red, that's the one where he comes off as Balfe The Bullshitter.
There was another one where he mocked other composers for their time wasting efforts.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thanks Red, that's the one where he comes off as Balfe The Bullshitter.

Really? I didn't get that impression at all. He's forthcoming and refreshingly honest/pragmatic about the particular style of film music he works with. Even self-critical! So what, exactly, are you reacting to here?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

We all come at things differently.
I hear the death of a lost art.
Talentless hacks and chancers replacing skill and artistry.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 9:54 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

What he describes is what many of us here could accomplish with some decent tech.
What I've heard by him makes no lasting impression on my enjoyment of film music.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Think of how Danny Elfman entered the field in a similar fashion and chipped away to improve his art.
This fella mocks such artistry and is happy to be a glorified plasterer.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

OK -- from what you write, it seems you're more criticizing what he represents (something negative, in your view) than what he's actually saying. He's pretty forthcoming about the fact that he's not from the old school. It's fine for you to lament the loss of yesteryear's practices, but I think the descriptions and attributions you ascribed are a little over the top.

Personally, I think it's possible to have two thoughts going on in one's mind at the same time -- appreciation of old-school techniques, and also appreciation of the kind of contemporary, technological tools someone like Balfe brings to the table. But hey, that's me.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Me too, Thor.
And if I hear new techniques and styles married to some forms of skill and artistry I'm all for it.
But I've heard nothing by Balfe that excites or interests me musically or otherwise and trust me, I have given his stuff a listen.
Hell, I was giving JXL some John Barry plaudits last week, so I'm nothing if open minded wink

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2019 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Fair enough.

 
 Posted:   Aug 31, 2019 - 10:58 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

The first review I've seen is an absolute rave, surprisingly enough, so now I'm hoping for the best.

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/08/ad-astra-review-brad-pitt-james-gray-venice-1202169692/

The review even mentions Richter (but not Balfe).

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 1, 2019 - 3:12 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

A lot of my colleagues are in Venice at the moment, and their reactions have been mixed to AD ASTRA. I'm rooting for the positive ones, though (places like Indiewire are usually reliable). I won't get to see it myself untill September 18th.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2019 - 6:36 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

COMMENTS WITH NO SPOILERS BELOW! SAFE TO READ!

Just came back from this. As I said above, my colleagues, who saw it in Venice, were rather lukewarm, but I could glean from their comments that this would probably be more up my alley. I was correct in my assumption. I loved the film. It's a hodgepodge of various inspirarions -- 2001, FURY ROAD, Malick, GRAVITY, EVENT HORIZON etc., but it works to its benefit. Plus James Gray's usual fascination for APOCALYPSE NOW and Coppola, which he explored so wonderfully well in the brilliant THE LOST CITY OF Z. At one level, it's a regular space adventure -- with some hokey elements that aren't necessarily connected to the overall storyline -- but on another level, it's a beautiful, cerebral science fiction film about fundamental human issues, mainly the relationship between a father and his son. Most great sci fi films have this balance of elements.

I also love the "road movie" feel of it, with each location firmly set with its own atmosphere. In that way, it has a kind of 'vignette' feel to it; I could easily see a whole film taking place in each of these locations.

I'll save more specific comments for later.

As for the score, I really liked it. It has Richter's usual minimalist style, but with some expansive chords. There's an electronic "motif" or beat of sorts that was particularly captivating. I have no idea what Richter did and what Balfe did (perhaps Balfe's the one that did the beautiful electronic thing), but I can't wait to hear it on album. If it gets an album.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2019 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

Just came back from this. As I said above, my colleagues, who saw it in Venice, were rather lukewarm, but I could glean from their comments that this would probably be more up my alley. I was correct in my assumption. I loved the film. It's a hodgepodge of various inspirarions -- 2001, FURY ROAD, Malick, GRAVITY, EVENT HORIZON etc., but it works to its benefit. Plus James Gray's usual fascination for APOCALYPSE NOW and Coppola, which he explored so wonderfully well in the brilliant THE LOST CITY OF Z. At one level, it's a regular space adventure -- with some hokey elements that aren't necessarily connected to the overall storyline -- but on another level, it's a beautiful, cerebral science fiction film about fundamental human issues, mainly the relationship between a father and his son. Most great sci fi films have this balance of elements.

I also love the "road movie" feel of it, with each location firmly set with its own atmosphere. In that way, it has a kind of 'vignette' feel to it; I could easily see a whole film taking place in each of these locations.

I'll save more specific comments for later.

As for the score, I really liked it. It has Richter's usual minimalist style, but with some expansive chords. There's an electronic "motif" or beat of sorts that was particularly captivating. I have no idea what Richter did and what Balfe did (perhaps Balfe's the one that did the beautiful electronic thing), but I can't wait to hear it on album. If it gets an album.


Thanks for your thoughts, Thor! You have really made me interested in the film, I'm very curious now. Also, about the music. I like Richter's style and pairing him with Balfe could result in an interesting score.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2019 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I saw the trailer for this, before IT-2 this week, and was surprised to see clips with moon buggies chasing each other and zapping each other, in amongst what looked like something more akin to INTERSTELLAR, 2001 or SOLARIS.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2019 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Indeed. That's the whole appeal of this film -- the 'space adventure' gimmicks juxtaposed with the 'cerebral' and 'serious'. Love that sequence, btw -- a car chase in low gravity. Don't expect another INTERSTELLAR, though. This is something more of a 'hybrid' thing.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2019 - 3:12 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

By the way, how IS the soundtrack situation here? Is it forthcoming? Does anyone know? Or is it another GHOST IN THE SHELL situation?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2019 - 3:48 AM   
 By:   SoldierofFortune   (Member)

By the way, how IS the soundtrack situation here? Is it forthcoming? Does anyone know? Or is it another GHOST IN THE SHELL situation?

It appears is coming by Deusteche Grammophon... but it weird, in EVERY promo i saw about the movie, the only composer accredited is Max Ricther.

 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
© 2020 Film Score Monthly. All Rights Reserved...