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 Posted:   Mar 12, 2018 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I know the CD is prohibitively expensive right now, but do yourself a favor and buy or rent the superb film, WA. I don't always love Kirk Douglas but this was his best ever performance, his own favorite of his work and mine too. Gena Rowlands is magic in this movie as well, and Walter Matthau also makes a strong impression in a minimally-comedic role.

In fact, I adored both film and score so much that I wrote my senior paper at St. John's College on it. Difficult to get approved as a non-program work, and a somewhat obscure one at that, but I did it and I think it came off decently well.

Yavar, thanks for bringing up Lonely Are The Brave. Remember this thread? We did a fine discussion of the score and later the movie.

I do, and thanks for linking to it for WagnerAlmighty, as she continues her Goldsmith exploration. I used to consider Lonely Are the Brave to be Goldsmith's first true masterpiece, but I think I might have to revise that assessment. The Highwayman from 1489 Words, written before he'd scored a single feature, is simply incredible. And I suspect I will soon discover some other amazing pre-1962 stuff in the course of this Odyssey...

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2018 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I know the CD is prohibitively expensive right now, but do yourself a favor and buy or rent the superb film, WA. I don't always love Kirk Douglas but this was his best ever performance, his own favorite of his work and mine too. Gena Rowlands is magic in this movie as well, and Walter Matthau also makes a strong impression in a minimally-comedic role.

In fact, I adored both film and score so much that I wrote my senior paper at St. John's College on it. Difficult to get approved as a non-program work, and a somewhat obscure one at that, but I did it and I think it came off decently well.

Yavar, thanks for bringing up Lonely Are The Brave. Remember this thread? We did a fine discussion of the score and later the movie.

I do, and thanks for linking to it for WagnerAlmighty, as she continues her Goldsmith exploration. I used to consider Lonely Are the Brave to be Goldsmith's first true masterpiece, but I think I might have to revise that assessment. The Highwayman from 1489 Words, written before he'd scored a single feature, is simply incredible. And I suspect I will soon discover some other amazing pre-1962 stuff in the course of this Odyssey...

Yavar


I hope I can watch the movie soon. I'm psyched for more Odyssey btw.

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2018 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

The DVD is very inexpensive at the moment, though if you care about the highest quality there is an overseas Blu-ray (no domestic release yet in that format, sadly):
https://www.amazon.com/Lonely-are-Brave-Universal-Backlot/dp/B0024FADC4

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2018 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

The DVD is very inexpensive at the moment, though if you care about the highest quality there is an overseas Blu-ray (no domestic release yet in that format, sadly):
https://www.amazon.com/Lonely-are-Brave-Universal-Backlot/dp/B0024FADC4

Yavar


Too bad about Amazon video....

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2018 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Too bad about Amazon video....

?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2018 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Too bad about Amazon video....

?

Yavar


Wait, I found it!

https://www.amazon.com/Lonely-Are-Brave-David-Miller/dp/B002SATCO0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520886714&sr=8-1&keywords=lonely+are+the+brave

I needed a movie for tonight.

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2018 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yeah, I was confused because it was linked to on the DVD page I provided...both rental and buy options (though the DVD is a better deal in that regard...and also includes bonus features including a featurette on Goldsmith's contribution, which I doubt are included in Amazon's digital version.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2018 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Yeah, I was confused because it was linked to on the DVD page I provided...both rental and buy options (though the DVD is a better deal in that regard...and also includes bonus features including a featurette on Goldsmith's contribution, which I doubt are included in Amazon's digital version.

Yavar


Whoa JG extras!!!!

Hokay, the dvd is a no-brainer.

I glanced too quickly the first time.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2018 - 10:26 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

And our first regular episode, on Jerry's first feature film score, Black Patch, is now live at www.goldsmithodyssey.com!

Note that we give a spoiler warning about two thirds of the way through, so if you're curious to sample the score and learn about the film before watching, you're safe up until that point.

For those who want more in depth score analysis, here is the complete score breakdown with liner notes that I only recently revised to incorporate new insights gleaned from studying the music anew for our podcast discussion (beware of spoilers here if you've never seen the film):
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119663&forumID=1&archive=0

I really fell in love with the score the more I listened to it. Very curious to hear your thoughts on the music and our podcast!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2018 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Yavar, I wanted to listen to this podcast. If I understand the directions correctly, a listener must download iTunes in order to hear this program. Is that correct?

(I don't download much.)

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2018 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Yavar, I wanted to listen to this podcast. If I understand the directions correctly, a listener must download iTunes in order to hear this program. Is that correct?

(I don't download much.)


You can listen to the show here!
http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2018 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Yavar, I wanted to listen to this podcast. If I understand the directions correctly, a listener must download iTunes in order to hear this program. Is that correct?

iTunes is only one option, albeit one which many people use. As Erik kindly pointed out, you can play it directly off of our website: just click the "play" icon which hopefully shows up for you. I think Jens may have also put it on one or two other platforms besides iTunes, but playing it off our site is probably the simplest.

(We bought the domain name www.goldsmithodyssey.com which redirects to the buzzsprout site.)

I can't wait to hear what you think, Joan (and Erik).

Yavar

P.S. Just to explain the funny little notice Jens put up under the episode description about me and Clark still learning how to use computers: both of us somehow made the same mistake, in that we hooked up our nice recording microphones, saw the red power light go on, and assumed it would automatically take over as the preferred recording device. We somehow both forgot that for our Episode 0, we had to go into our preferences and switch to that mic from our computer's internal mic. So both of us ended up recording our voices with the latter instead of the former; hence, Jens and the music clips sound much better than our two voices.

 
 Posted:   Mar 15, 2018 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Well, that's one way to tell you two apart from Jens! Haha

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

I didn't know Clark was still around the scene. Why'd he change his last name?

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2018 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Official answer from Clark (he forgot his old login, so for the time being I'll relay his replies myself):

"Douglas is my "radio name," so I always used that for my writing online. I haven't really been active on any of the forums for a few years (just don't have time to stay active on a forum these days), but I still host a film music-themed radio show on the small station where I work and do my best to keep up with what's happening in the world of film music."

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2018 - 2:35 PM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

And our first regular episode, on Jerry's first feature film score, Black Patch, is now live at www.goldsmithodyssey.com!

Note that we give a spoiler warning about two thirds of the way through, so if you're curious to sample the score and learn about the film before watching, you're safe up until that point.

For those who want more in depth score analysis, here is the complete score breakdown with liner notes that I only recently revised to incorporate new insights gleaned from studying the music anew for our podcast discussion (beware of spoilers here if you've never seen the film):
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119663&forumID=1&archive=0

I really fell in love with the score the more I listened to it. Very curious to hear your thoughts on the music and our podcast!

Yavar



Thank you for the program. I really appreciated your overview of that rare western score. Keep up the good work. You can pinpoint some details that foreshadow his 60's signature.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2018 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

After kicking my computer and throwing it out a 10 story window and casting a devil spell on it, I finally got to hear the Black Patch radio show. I loved that whole ratio idea of having a score for the film and a separate one for the movie. Fun listen. I really enjoyed the various types of music you played. (Thematic, romantic, and action sequences.)

You all did a fine job.

I have the Encore western channel and keep hoping it will play on that cable channel. No luck so far. Guess I could look into the DVD you all mention.

Nice job, gentlemen.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2018 - 10:19 PM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

¶ I suggest you to listen to the podcast about Jerry Goldsmith’s City of Fear (1959), previously released by Intrada.

http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/665607-episode-2-city-of-fear-1959

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2018 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Thanks for the plug, (Member) -- and yes, our Episode 2 on City of Fear is now indeed up! We have experimented with the format this time, so that we get to music discussion within about 5 minutes (and intersperse the film discussion throughout). Do please give us feedback on whether you prefer this format. You can reply here or email mail@goldsmithodyssey.com. We welcome constructive negative feedback!

And if you have *positive* feedback, please do rate our podcast on iTunes as well please!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2018 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   (Member)   (Member)

Thanks for the plug, (Member) -- and yes, our Episode 2 on City of Fear is now indeed up! We have experimented with the format this time, so that we get to music discussion within about 5 minutes (and intersperse the film discussion throughout). Do please give us feedback on whether you prefer this format. You can reply here or email mail@goldsmithodyssey.com. We welcome constructive negative feedback!

And if you have *positive* feedback, please do rate our podcast on iTunes as well please!

Yavar



I listened closely to the podcast of City of Fear because the score by Goldsmith was very attractive: the jazz side of Goldsmith.
I also watched the film and the score carried the drama all the way.
The film is limited per se and sympathetic but there are some nice composition shots here and there thanks to dop Lucian Ballard. Oddly enough, the film is supervised by many people (Leon Chooluck, Jack Poplin) responsible of the show The Outer Limits. You can admire the wife (Kathy Brown) of Darren McGavin as the saleslady in the shoe store.
Keep up the good work!

 
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