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 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Agreed!

(And I've never been accused of being a hipster anything.)

You're a SchiffyM hipster.

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It seems over the last 15 years grand thematic scores are reserved for comedies. But what does that say about the average viewers perception of orchestral scoring? It's "funny" music not to be taken seriously.

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 10:53 AM   
 By:   Mark Langdon   (Member)

It seems over the last 15 years grand thematic scores are reserved for comedies. But what does that say about the average viewers perception of orchestral scoring? It's "funny" music not to be taken seriously.

Well, according to the reviews, The Orville is barely a comedy, so...

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)



Oh man, I want an album for this so, so bad. Hoping Intrada (who have worked so often with Broughton and several times with McNeely) will put out a 2-4 disc set, honestly --

Yavar


Assuming it lasts long enough to have that much music (his live-action track record is pretty iffy).

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I was thinking about those reviews when Instagram randomly just showed me a commercial for the show. Here's the thing: there's a word for a show that is modeled after "Star Trek" on sets that look like "Star Trek," in "Star Trek"-like uniforms with characters, makeup, and situations that resemble "Star Trek" but is not a parody. That word is "rip-off." If they're not spoofing "Star Trek," then it appears from the promos that they are just stealing "Star Trek."

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

I was thinking about those reviews when Instagram randomly just showed me a commercial for the show. Here's the thing: there's a word for a show that is modeled after "Star Trek" on sets that look like "Star Trek," in "Star Trek"-like uniforms with characters, makeup, and situations that resemble "Star Trek" but is not a parody. That word is "rip-off." If they're not spoofing "Star Trek," then it appears from the promos that they are just stealing "Star Trek."

It's Seth MacFarlane. Pretty safe to say they're intending it to be a spoof (whether that succeeds...). Unless of course you don't actually consider Million Ways to Die in the West a western spoof =P

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   TM   (Member)

It seems over the last 15 years grand thematic scores are reserved for comedies. But what does that say about the average viewers perception of orchestral scoring? It's "funny" music not to be taken seriously.

Sadly perceptive..

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 6:35 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

"But those effects, along with the show’s ridiculously grandiose orchestral score, belong on a sci-fi series with some actual dramatic heft"

Oh man, I want an album for this so, so bad. Hoping Intrada (who have worked so often with Broughton and several times with McNeely) will put out a 2-4 disc set, honestly -- how often do we get big budget, "ridiculously grandiose orchestral score" on a score-fi project (especially TV) any more?

Yavar


Exactly. I would love to have a "ridiculously grandiose orchestral score" any day, especially for a sci-fi show. Bring it on. I'm certainly going to give the series more than one episode to win me over. Back in the day, ST:TNG took more than a whole season to prove it could really be good.

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 6:38 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

To be fair, ST: TNG had a lot of behind-the-scenes problems, not the least of which Gene himself. Seth may have free reign, given his three series, two of which are still around.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

Exactly. I would love to have a "ridiculously grandiose orchestral score" any day, especially for a sci-fi show. Bring it on. I'm certainly going to give the series more than one episode to win me over. Back in the day, ST:TNG took more than a whole season to prove it could really be good.

I know that you're talking about wanting a good soundtrack album, and I agree that I want that sort of thing too - especially from the composers involved - but it really does bother me when a show / movie contains music that is completely overbearing and wrong. I haven't heard any of THE ORVILLE so I don't know, but if indeed it damages the show that it was written for, then it's not good scoring by any measure!

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2017 - 11:13 PM   
 By:   Dr. Nigel Channing   (Member)


Seth Macfarlane tweeted about the scoring tonight and gave a link to a nice McNeely cue on SoundCloud:

https://twitter.com/sethmacfarlane/status/905603388565590018

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2017 - 4:59 AM   
 By:   thx99   (Member)

Awesome, Doc! Thanks for the heads-up.

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2017 - 6:01 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Seth Macfarlane tweeted about the scoring tonight and gave a link to a nice McNeely cue on SoundCloud:

https://twitter.com/sethmacfarlane/status/905603388565590018


YOU'RE WELCOME smile

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2017 - 6:31 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Haha I saw who tweeted him and I was like, "Lookit dis muthafu**a with a full last name."

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2017 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

I mean I'm not going to just change my whole identity all willy nilly on somewhere important like Twitter.

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2017 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Very nice work indeed, but then again I am not surprised at all that his composer choices will provide good work. I am interested to hear what Andrew Cottee will come up, being his first score (being friends with Seth sure pays off), previously being an orchestrator.


If the series gets a second season, I already have my ideas for composer choices (a quick list):

  • Ron Jones
  • Walter Murphy (he’s never had a chance to do something like this)
  • Don Davis (he and Debney did terrific work on “SeaQuest”)
  • Bruce Babcock (his promotional CD has an orchestral symphonic work that clearly shows he can do this)
  • Peter Tomashek (I'm thinking of his score to "Robin's Reckoning" from "Batman: The Animated Series", and an action cue from MegaTrax that was used in an "Enterprise" promo for the episode "Stormfront")
  • Gerald Fried (the only living original-series “Star Trek” composer — why not offer him one? He scored last year his first film score since 1979)
  • David Bell (not just his Trek work, but his other work, such as the award nominated “Dead Man’s Walk”)
  • Jay Chattaway
  • Brian Langsbard (check out the Batman suite: https://www.brianlangsbard.com/music/)

    I’m sure there are more that I am not thinking of at this moment.

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     Posted:   Sep 7, 2017 - 10:19 AM   
     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

    Assuming it lasts long enough to have that much music (his live-action track record is pretty iffy).

    Since it's an hour-long show and Seth loves giving composers free reign, I assume it wouldn't even take many episodes to build up several discs worth of great orchestral material.

    LLL did a fantastic three disc set of Bear McCreary's Human Target from a short 12 episode season, and I personally would have been happy for it to be even longer than it was! (Though I really would have liked to have the music complete & chronological so there was some flow and development and dramatic arc to it -- it felt like just a jumbled up shuffle of cues, admittedly-great music but I would have far preferred a Batman TAS approach to it.)

    Man, that McNeely cue is excellent!

    Yavar

     
     Posted:   Sep 7, 2017 - 10:49 AM   
     By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

    Very nice work indeed, but then again I am not surprised at all that his composer choices will provide good work. I am interested to hear what Andrew Cottee will come up, being his first score (being friends with Seth sure pays off), previously being an orchestrator.


    If the series gets a second season, I already have my ideas for composer choices (a quick list):

  • Ron Jones
  • Walter Murphy (he’s never had a chance to do something like this)
  • Don Davis (he and Debney did terrific work on “SeaQuest”)
  • Bruce Babcock (his promotional CD has an orchestral symphonic work that clearly shows he can do this)
  • Peter Tomashek (I'm thinking of his score to "Robin's Reckoning" from "Batman: The Animated Series", and an action cue from MegaTrax that was used in an "Enterprise" promo for the episode "Stormfront")
  • Gerald Fried (the only living original-series “Star Trek” composer — why not offer him one? He scored last year his first film score since 1979)
  • David Bell (not just his Trek work, but his other work, such as the award nominated “Dead Man’s Walk”)
  • Jay Chattaway
  • Brian Langsbard (check out the Batman suite: https://www.brianlangsbard.com/music/)

    I’m sure there are more that I am not thinking of at this moment.



    I didn't even have to scroll up from Most Recent to know this was a Justin Boggan joint. What about John Scott??? This show has literally no shot at a second season.

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     Posted:   Sep 7, 2017 - 10:51 AM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    Considering how knowledgeable and composer-friendly MacFarlane is and Scott's complaints about why he isn't scoring anymore, all it would take is a phone call from Seth to John and this could be a realistic possibility.

     
     Posted:   Sep 9, 2017 - 8:55 AM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    A preview of an episode:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv9E7RzTAiU

     
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