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Not quite sure what you mean there, David. DID Raksin actually begin writing the score in the style of Purcell and then abandon the idea? Exactly. I found it interesting that he started writing in the style of Purcell, intending to do the entire score that way. He found it wasn't working as an approach to the score. He abandoned the approach and had to begin again. So he fell behind writing the score. A dramatic thing to happen (maybe worth doing as a movie!), and oddly left out of liner notes. At least that's my recollection of what Raksin told his students.
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In the cut version, which seems to be the only one shown anywhere now, the ending is literally chopped up, without the orchestral upturn, but accompanied instead by an inserted title that Amber had to pay for her transgressions. Such crap. Izzat what is on the dvd? I'm getting it from the library. I don't remember ending I saw in Raksin's class, which was his personal print.
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I think DavidinBerkeley is talking about getting the actual novel from the library? Not Film Music Notes..... Yup.
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I liked the score so much I rented a VHS copy (remember those?) from Blockbuster (remember them?), and I liked the movie quite a bit, so I tracked down the novel on interlibrary loan (does anybody do that anymore?). Boring. So boring... I've got some dull reading ahead of me, then!
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NUTMEGGIAN UPDATE - I've just read that Raksin initially thought that a Purcellian approach would be appropriate, then he changed his mind when he saw the film. Still, it doesn't say explicitly (I'm looking at an old Tony Thomas book) that he "wasted time" writing Purcellian pastiche which he later jettisoned, it just says he spent two and a half weeks searching for themes during the day, and reading the book by night (which of course he claims was "more fatiguing").But wasn't all that AFTER he decided to abandon the initial idea of an "all-Purcell" score? Enlighten me. Again, the story I told above is what I recall him saying to his students, in class, in the middle 1980's. In which Thomas book did you read what you heard?
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May 19, 2016 - 2:43 PM
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NUTMEGGIAN UPDATE - I've just read that Raksin initially thought that a Purcellian approach would be appropriate, then he changed his mind when he saw the film. Still, it doesn't say explicitly (I'm looking at an old Tony Thomas book) that he "wasted time" writing Purcellian pastiche which he later jettisoned, it just says he spent two and a half weeks searching for themes during the day, and reading the book by night (which of course he claims was "more fatiguing").But wasn't all that AFTER he decided to abandon the initial idea of an "all-Purcell" score? Enlighten me. (posted Graham Watt) Again, the story I told above is what I recall him saying to his students, in class, in the middle 1980's. In which Thomas book did you read what you heard? (posted DavidinBerkeley) Ouch! Just checked. I didn't read it in any Tony Thomas book. It was in Mark Evans' "Soundtrack: The Music of the Movies", published in 1975. I was paraphrasing anyway, just (mis)interpreting the story in my own way. But YOU, David, had classes with the great man, and I have only seen photos of him, so you win. I re-re-re-re-re (etc) re-re-revisited this score the other day. I still prefer the Raksin-conducted reduction over the original soundtrack. I like the way Raksin highlights little details, and gives emphasis to some moments with the subtlest of pauses. The Newman-conducted original seems to me to have less character, although I have read that that Alf Newman chap was no second-rate nutmeg with a baton.
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I liked the score so much I rented a VHS copy (remember those?) from Blockbuster (remember them?), and I liked the movie quite a bit, so I tracked down the novel on interlibrary loan (does anybody do that anymore?). Boring. So boring... I've got some dull reading ahead of me, then! On page 7, this might be as racy as it gets.... "'Don't cry, Judith darling. I'll come back to you. someday we'll have our home and our family. someday we'll have each other --' 'Someday, John!' Her arms caught at him desperately, her face was frightened and her eyes reckless. 'Someday! But what if someday never comes!' An hour later he was gone and Judith rode back to the house, happy and at peace, content as never before in her life. For now -- now matter what happened, no matter who won or lost the war -- they were sure of each other. Sometimes they might have to be apart, but they could never be really separated again. Life seemed simpler to her, and more complete."
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Ouch! Just checked. I didn't read it in any Tony Thomas book. It was in Mark Evans' "Soundtrack: The Music of the Movies", published in 1975. I'm going to find this in the library. Thanks for the recommendation, Graham.
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Izzat what is on the dvd? I'm getting it from the library. I don't remember ending I saw in Raksin's class, which was his personal print. Watching the dvd this week. I can't believe it's a "bare bones" release, with no commentary, etc.
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Yes, that David Raksin suites album is highly recommended!!!
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