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Hmmm. I suppose a tape machine could be considered an instrument in it's own right. But there has to be a recording ON the tape and the only example that comes to mind is the Mellotron. But apart from that, it's only a device that stores music that was already played. Additionally, I think that to say that any instrument which requires external amplification is an electronic instrument is too broad a generalization. If it was a Mellotron, it would be the only time Goldsmith ver used it in one of his film scores (considering he went through every electronic keyboard imaginable from almost every manufacturer [including Yamaha, for which he did a photo ad that was seen only in the U.K.]). Whoops! I didn't mean to imply that Goldsmith used a Mellotron on POTA (sorry if I was unclear). Maybe there is, maybe there isn't... I don't know. My comment was in reference only to BM's opinion that a tape machine was an electronic (read: musical) instrument in and of itself. I found that side-topic interesting. EDITED TO ADD: Do Mellotrons even have an "electric guitar" setting? I don't think so. Not from what I've ben told by people in the know. Cheers!
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"In the midst of all these electronic experiments, I did Planet Of The Apes, which has no electronics on it at all, other than some tape delay on some string pizzicati. We didn't want to use any electronics. I used a number of obscure percussion instruments, such as a bass slide whistle. And, as you know, there is no such thing as a bass slide whistle. At the time I was under contract to Fox, and there was a percussionist named Hal Reese. In the early days he had worked for Disney and done a lot of the sound effects. So at the back of the scoring stages he had trunk after trunk of all these things he had made or had had made for him to do all of these sounds. So I would go exploring back there--he'd pull all of his stuff out, and it was great! I found this bass slide whistle and some other things. And then Emil (Richards) suggested this gag using stainless steel mixing bowls, which sounded very electronic too. And other sounds were created by the orchestra: for instance, the French horn players blowing air through their mouthpieces, doubled with the tam-tam being scraped. I used a number of inside-the-piano sounds too, like muting the strings with one hand. It was fun exploring these different sounds, and of course electronic music wasn't really that sophisticated or advanced at the time." [Quoted from an interview with Jerry Goldsmith published in the Feb 1985 issue of Keyboard Magazine]
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i thought i heard vibraphone in the score. btw if it plugs in, its electric/electronic bruce
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I've never considered electric guitar to be an electronic instrument. It's an amplified instrument. Like Jeff, I consider an electronic instrument to be one whose original signal is not generated acoustically. So electric guitar, Fender Rhodes, not electronic. . see above have you ever tried to play electric guitar without an amplifier?!
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this is the last place i would have expected a semantic debate! electric,electronic, amplified, acoustic.. you're giving me a headache! folks a 'synthesizer' isn't the last word on electronic music open your minds to the possibilities bruce
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ok you win! bruce
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one last thing: alot of people are impressed with composers who make instruments play sounds they were never intended to make. i am not one of them, Eliot bruce
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Yes. At the end of "The Hunt" (can't remember if it was part one or two), the last sonority is played by electric guitar. Interestingly, the cue was orchestrated by Herbert Spencer, who assisted Jerry's regular orchestrator, Arthur Morton, as they were both under contract to Fox at the time. sure sounds like it to me!
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Yes. At the end of "The Hunt" (can't remember if it was part one or two), the last sonority is played by electric guitar. Interestingly, the cue was orchestrated by Herbert Spencer, who assisted Jerry's regular orchestrator, Arthur Morton, as they were both under contract to Fox at the time. sure sounds like it to me!
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Yes. At the end of "The Hunt" (can't remember if it was part one or two), the last sonority is played by electric guitar. Interestingly, the cue was orchestrated by Herbert Spencer, who assisted Jerry's regular orchestrator, Arthur Morton, as they were both under contract to Fox at the time. Spencer also orchestrated Jerry's score for "Bandolero!" though it remains unknown why Morton wasn't available.
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sure sounds like it to me
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