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 Posted:   Jan 21, 2007 - 8:40 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Dusty Groove has it listed as an upcoming release. Could it be European?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2007 - 9:27 PM   
 By:   Melchior   (Member)

Yes, it´s from Harkit.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 21, 2007 - 9:31 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Yes, it´s from Harkit.

I believe the upcoming release is on a different label, though I'm not sure. The Harkit release came out last year.

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2007 - 4:28 AM   
 By:   Laurent WATTEAU   (Member)

I'd like to mention STRESS by Marius Constant & Martial Solal, although this is NOT a film score (for those who don't know Marius Constant, he's the composer of the THE TWILIGHT ZONE theme for season 2 )

Here I reproduce some of the liner notes for this CD (ERATO 2292-45778-2) :

Ever since jazz burst upon the western world for the first time composers have been trying to combine it with "serious" music, but the results have not in general been satisfactory. The chief problem has been a failure of assimilation : either the jazz element is reduced to the level of the merely quaint and exotic or the "serious" element is itself handled far too inhibitedly.

In "Stress" two composers, each of whom has a thorough understanding of both these musical traditions; come together in an exchange or dialogue which has nothing cosy about it but is interspersed with clashes, moments of friction and collisions. Whereas Solal's music is based on pearly lines, side-slipping pulsations of out-of-phase strong beats, and subtle harmonic schemes, Constant's makes use of strange timbres and clothes the Farbenmelodien in startlingly novel and yet strictly organized patterns of natural sonorities : the result is a fusion of their two worls, a conflict or a marriage between their styles.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2007 - 5:02 AM   
 By:   Jameson281   (Member)

Fred Katz's "Little Shop of Horrors"

Several cues from the film can be heard in earlier Corman films like THE WASP WOMAN, ao at least part of that score is stock. Anyone know if Katz wrote any original music for that film? Was is EVER written for a particular film, or was it just library music? It seems odd for a composer to be credited when library music is used, but some of those Katz cues turn up in at least three Corman films.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2007 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

And here's the cover of the CD I talked about earlier, Onyabirri. I'm listening to it now and if I understood you correctly, it falls perfectly into your category. Cool stuff (also includes original compositions by other film music luminaries such as Hugo Montenegro and Allyn Ferguson)!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2007 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

Another good choice is Mandel's POINT BLANK, although at 1967, it's coming in at the tail end of the period being discussed.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2007 - 9:04 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)


I'd like to mention STRESS by Marius Constant & Martial Solal, although this is NOT a film score...


Thanks. Is this hard to find? Could I get more detail on the whole CD?

BTW, parts of Martial Solal's score for Godard's "Breathless" has some elements of the style I'm talking about.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2007 - 9:05 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)



Several cues from the film can be heard in earlier Corman films like THE WASP WOMAN, ao at least part of that score is stock. Anyone know if Katz wrote any original music for that film? Was is EVER written for a particular film, or was it just library music? It seems odd for a composer to be credited when library music is used, but some of those Katz cues turn up in at least three Corman films.


No idea, but I'm grateful I have the Rhino LP of this music. I don't think it's out on CD.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2007 - 9:07 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Another good choice is Mandel's POINT BLANK, although at 1967, it's coming in at the tail end of the period being discussed.

I'll have to check this one out, thanks!

 
 Posted:   Jan 22, 2007 - 10:03 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

I'll have to check this one out, thanks!

It's a doozy!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2007 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Currently checking out Andre Hodeir. Anyone here into his stuff?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2009 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I am bumping up this (particularly brilliant) thread to add some recent information.

Andre Hodeir's "Jazz et Jazz" is a perfect encapsulation of what I'm talking about.

I would also like to add Les Baxter's "Panic in Year Zero" and also "Pressure Point" by whoever-the-hell-did-that as prime examples of the nervous, angular, longhair sound.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2009 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

There's one particular track on André Previn's THE SUBTERRANEANS which I think fits the bill. I can't recall the name of the cue offhand, but if you have it, you'll know what I'm talking about. It gets particularly nervously angularly longhaired near the end. I think it mirrors somebody at a party listening to the cool jazz sounds, then he or she gets totally pissed and blasted on drugs and runs down the street naked, blitzed. Brilliant depiction of manic madness from Previn's jazzy and symphonic masterpiece.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2009 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

There's one particular track on André Previn's THE SUBTERRANEANS which I think fits the bill. I can't recall the name of the cue offhand, but if you have it, you'll know what I'm talking about. It gets particularly nervously angularly longhaired near the end. I think it mirrors somebody at a party listening to the cool jazz sounds, then he or she gets totally pissed and blasted on drugs and runs down the street naked, blitzed. Brilliant depiction of manic madness from Previn's jazzy and symphonic masterpiece.

This album has somehow eluded me, both in LP and CD form. I'm sure I will stumble across a copy one day. I'm not a huge Andre Previn fan, but I'm sure this is a great album.

 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2009 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

There's one particular track on André Previn's THE SUBTERRANEANS which I think fits the bill. I can't recall the name of the cue offhand, but if you have it, you'll know what I'm talking about. It gets particularly nervously angularly longhaired near the end. I think it mirrors somebody at a party listening to the cool jazz sounds, then he or she gets totally pissed and blasted on drugs and runs down the street naked, blitzed. Brilliant depiction of manic madness from Previn's jazzy and symphonic masterpiece.

This album has somehow eluded me, both in LP and CD form. I'm sure I will stumble across a copy one day. I'm not a huge Andre Previn fan, but I'm sure this is a great album.


Check it out, square! wink

http://filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/324/Subterraneans-The/

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2009 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Thanks I never knew there was an expanded version.

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2011 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Just ordered "City of Fear," which typifies the nervous angular longhair genre.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2014 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)



Check it out, square! wink

http://filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/324/Subterraneans-The/


Got this one as part of one of the Jazz film box sets. Great stuff!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2014 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)



Check it out, square! wink

http://filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/324/Subterraneans-The/


Got this one as part of one of the Jazz film box sets. Great stuff!



Listened to this just last week. Thoroughly enjoyed it. We bought a copy for Mrs TG's jazz loving trotskyite dad a few years ago.

 
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