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If we're going to include BATMAN as a superhero, the list should likely include James Bond since his powers are basically from the same source (gadgets, smarts, etc.).
But Bond doesn't check on many of the other customery "superhero" traits, like dual identities, costume, mask, etc.
I mean, sure, you can make a point and include any hero of any movie, from John Wayne to Jesus to Hercules and call them "superheroes", but then that's such a broad field as to render the term useless.
I think most people think of the costumed crusaders that started with the 1938 DC comic books when they say "superhero movies". These didn't grow out of nowhere, of course, Zorro being an immediate predecessor.
Bond belongs to the genre of thriller and spy fiction and has less in common with classic (comic book) superheros.
Batman on the other hand sprang forth from the DC superhero comic books (so he's already in that tradition), is in the same universe as Superman, Wonder Woman, etc., and checks all the boxes except for actual superpowers.
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Aug 3, 2022 - 8:01 PM
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Solium
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If we're going to include BATMAN as a superhero, the list should likely include James Bond since his powers are basically from the same source (gadgets, smarts, etc.).
But Bond doesn't check on many of the other customery "superhero" traits, like dual identities, costume, mask, etc.
I mean, sure, you can make a point and include any hero of any movie, from John Wayne to Jesus to Hercules and call them "superheroes", but then that's such a broad field as to render the term useless.
I think most people think of the costumed crusaders that started with the 1938 DC comic books when they say "superhero movies". These didn't grow out of nowhere, of course, Zorro being an immediate predecessor.
Bond belongs to the genre of thriller and spy fiction and has less in common with classic (comic book) superheros.
Batman on the other hand sprang forth from the DC superhero comic books (so he's already in that tradition), is in the same universe as Superman, Wonder Woman, etc., and checks all the boxes except for actual superpowers.
I agree. "Superhero" is a pretty easy genre to define. And I'm going to go with the obvious and also put my hat in for Superman: The Movie.
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As far as you can be objective about such things, I think the Williams Superman wrote the book on superhero scores.
However, my favourite and probably the one I listen to most is The Incredibles.
THE INCREDIBLES is the funniest superhero movie ever. I love Giacchino's score, but in the back of my mind I always thought it would have been cool had it actually worked out with John Barry.
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THE INCREDIBLES is fantastic, and I love it way more than most superhero film scores.
Confession: I'm not that much into most superhero film scores.
But surely the giant of superhero film scores is SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE.
Like others, I also greatly admire Elfman's BATMAN.
But SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE is the king of superhero film soundtracks for me.
Cheers
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Very eloquent, Kev (checks back to see if I’ve accidentally put him on ignore)
See? That's why I only ever ignore manually everything by myself.
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I did write some guff about expecting you (TG) to pick THE HUMANOID but it's not really a superhero film, more of a STAR WARS cash-in, so I junked it.
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Yes, SUPERMAN THE MOVIE of course.
What else?
Not only the best superhero score but maybe also the best John Williams score ever?
It has absolutely everything.
I got mine:
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