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 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Actually, all I ever do with CDs these days is rip them once and put them on a shelf (or in a box.. out of shelf space currently). I practically never actually play them anymore and see no point in doing so. I like the booklets though. :-)

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   Commodore   (Member)

The Swarm was on a few weeks ago on one of the cable channels. I just couldn't watch the whole movie, but that Goldsmith score—is the only redeeming feature of the whole film. My wife already gave me permission to order a copy wink

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

Gee... should I remind that a CD isn't meant to be ripped out, converted to digital files on your computer and thrown away after.

It's a physical product that's supposed to be enjoyed as what it is, put in a player and, well... played.


But I dont throw them away after....

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

Great score, glad to see it released.

I didn't know what MQA was, so I had to read up. In most of what I could find people seems to be moderately enthusiastic over what it delivers. Using the special certified equipment, the sound could be great after the unpacking of additional resolution. I wish these releases where just made available for non-physical releases. Lossless or higher resolutions are never a problem at Qobuz or other outlets.

It's ironic that the additional compression seems to have been developed for non-physical releases to limit the needed bandwidth no is also used for to rise beyond the limits of an archaic medium like cd and red book maximum of 16/44 smile

I'm sure the developers also kept in mind that to use the benefits of the system additional hardware sales are needed. I'm also sure not many will buy those.

At least it plays on a regular player, so it seems it's like a betamax-tape that also fits in VHS recorders. I yet have to see it confirmed I can rip the cd – 'cause who plays cd's right? – if it's possible also unpacking the additional resolution.

Anyone found info on that?

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 7:47 AM   
 By:   TominAtl   (Member)

This was on television just the other night.

Yes it was, on TCM. And I had the fortune of laughing my ass off during most of the movie. I saw it as a kid on it's initial run and enjoyed it. Now, I enjoyed it on a on a MST3K level.

Gawd what a ridiculous movie from beginning to end, with the burning of Houston ala flame thrower(really?) with Richard Widmark's death scene being the cherry on top.

As far as the score, it's not my favorite Goldsmith but there are some of his usual cool moments. I have the Prometheus release and hardly listen to it. I will give it another spin or 2 and see if it's warranted for another purchase.

But for those of you who don't have it and love Goldsmith, this is a perfect release for you.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

This was on television just the other night.

Yes it was, on TCM. And I had the fortune of laughing my ass off during most of the movie. I saw it as a kid on it's initial run and enjoyed it. Now, I enjoyed it on a on a MST3K level.


Yes, I love the movie, it's a hoot! I always say it's the funniest Abrahams/Zucker/Abrahams movie that was not actually done by them. From beginning to end pure joy.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

This was on television just the other night.

Yes it was, on TCM. And I had the fortune of laughing my ass off during most of the movie. I saw it as a kid on it's initial run and enjoyed it. Now, I enjoyed it on a on a MST3K level.


Yes, I love the movie, it's a hoot! I always say it's the funniest Abrahams/Zucker/Abrahams movie that was not actually done by them. From beginning to end pure joy.


Haha! I literately thought it was a disaster spoof. The dead pan acting, OH MY!
Though the helicopter crashes were really cool.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)


Haha! I literately thought it was a disaster spoof. The dead pan acting, OH MY!
Though the helicopter crashes were really cool.


Hahaha! There are just SOOO many scenes in it that are ROFL.. Irwin Allen, who was at the top of his career back then, must have felt invincible to think he could get away with this stuff.

The opening alone... there is a US Missile Base, EVERYBODY is dead, even though no physical harm on the bodies can be seen.. and the investigating MGs see piles of dead bodies, and what is the first thing they do? Take of all their gas masks! Yeah, that sounds reasonable. smile

There are NO dead bees anywhere either, even though bees normally die after stinging... Also, should bees attack a missile base, even if they killed every single solider, I'd expect at least a few bees to go down in that battle as well, but nope, not a single one. Or the bees retrieve and bury their dead, who knows.

Suddenly, they find Michael Caine, the ONLY person alive in the control center of a military base where he has no business being, as he is obviously both a civilian and a foreigner, and when asked what the hell he's doing there he tells them "it's a long story, lets skip that". Yep, that should shut those pesky questions up. And it does. :-D

And that's just the opening minutes, the whole movie is like that. Really, I think it is one of the funniest movies ever made.

The dialog between the two "doctors" about nuclear power plants being fail safe against everything except killer bee attacks (BANG!), the exploding passenger train wagons that must have been filled with nitroglycerin... I get a belly-ache just thinking about the movie.

What is so fascinating that this was done with so much money and so much talent in front and behind the camera... what were they thinking?

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

At least it plays on a regular player, so it seems it's like a betamax-tape that also fits in VHS recorders. I yet have to see it confirmed I can rip the cd – 'cause who plays cd's right? – if it's possible also unpacking the additional resolution.

It can be ripped and played in your music player of choice. I use roon, which can also do the first unfold of MQA and can output 88.2/24-bit. Full disclosure, roon currently has a bug that prevents it from recognizing every track as MQA. This is repeatable and I've sent them the tracks with this issue. They are aware of the problem. Audirvana can also decode MQA. But I also use iTunes and these play just fine as 44.1/16-bit ALAC files. The samples, when they go live, are mp3s I had no trouble creating.

And yes, you can put them into an audio editor and cut them, but why would you want to tamper with my beautiful, beautiful work?

Neil

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 8:45 AM   
 By:   andy b   (Member)


Hahaha! There are just SOOO many scenes in it that are ROFL.. Irwin Allen, who was at the top of his career back then, must have felt invincible to think he could get away with this stuff.

The opening alone... there is a US Missile Base, EVERYBODY is dead, even though no physical harm on the bodies can be seen.. and the investigating MGs see piles of dead bodies, and what is the first thing they do? Take of all their gas masks! Yeah, that sounds reasonable. smile

There are NO dead bees anywhere either, even though bees normally die after stinging... Also, should bees attack a missile base, even if they killed every single solider, I'd expect at least a few bees to go down in that battle as well, but nope, not a single one. Or the bees retrieve and bury their dead, who knows.

Suddenly, they find Michael Caine, the ONLY person alive in the control center of a military base where he has no business being, as he is obviously both a civilian and a foreigner, and when asked what the hell he's doing there he tells them "it's a long story, lets skip that". Yep, that should shut those pesky questions up. And it does. :-D

And that's just the opening minutes, the whole movie is like that. Really, I think it is one of the funniest movies ever made.

The dialog between the two "doctors" about nuclear power plants being fail safe against everything except killer bee attacks (BANG!), the exploding passenger train wagons that must have been filled nitroglycerin... I get a belly-ache just thinking about the movie.

What is so fascinating that this was done with so much money and so much talent in front and behind the camera... what were they thinking?

Ok you are officially my FSM HERO for this fantastic Swarm summary.

back in 1978 I had to try & sell this turkey through the whole of Europe! we all sat there in the Warner screening room, thinking "what the hell"!! it was just one scene after another & none of us could stop laughing & this was supposed to be "serious"!! Towering Inferno it was not!.

There are SO many bad parts to this film & to think we cut it even more than the original US version, just to try to get anyone to book it!

Thank you for the post, brought back so many memories & brought tears to my eyes reading it.

But the Goldsmith score is good.

regards
Andy b

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

What did Irwin Allen have against Richard Chamberlain, any way? Killed off in this AND The Towering Inferno...

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)



Ok you are officially my FSM HERO for this fantastic Swarm summary.


Hahaha... thanks, this was probably condensed from stuff I wrote about THE SWARM already a few years ago when the discussion came up. I really like the movie, I think it is enormously funny. "Attention! Attention! Please listen very carefully: a swarm of killer bees is coming this way". Yep, that sure gets the attention.

And why should a nuclear power plant explode seconds after a few killer bees enter, even IF they kill the people there. What happened? One of them tried to swat a bee and pushed the prominently placed and easily going self-destruct-now button?



back in 1978 I had to try & sell this turkey through the whole of Europe! we all sat there in the Warner screening room, thinking "what the hell"!! it was just one scene after another & none of us could stop laughing & this was supposed to be "serious"!! Towering Inferno it was not!.

There are SO many bad parts to this film & to think we cut it even more than the original US version, just to try to get anyone to book it!

Thank you for the post, brought back so many memories & brought tears to my eyes reading it.

But the Goldsmith score is good.

regards
Andy b


Yes, the Goldsmith score is truly good. Thanks for sharing your memories... I really wonder how this expensive movie got made... I mean, even back then on page spoken lines like "by tomorrow there will be no more Africans... at least not in the Houston sector" must have just felt... just odd... but when delivered with stone serious face by Richard Widmark, it is sublime. And they dismiss a lot of possibly good ideas to fight the bees right out of hand without giving them some thought, but then proceed to go after the bees with FLAME THROWERS!

But Goldsmith's music is the one thing that sounds just right... terrific horror music about a swarm of killer bees. Goldsmith music gives an idea of what the movie might have been like if it had been good.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)



And yes, you can put them into an audio editor and cut them, but why would you want to tamper with my beautiful, beautiful work?

Neil


I wouldn't dream of it smile Thanks Neil!

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Preview of the booklet art:
http://www.warmbutter.com/cds/swarm.php

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   KeV-McG   (Member)

It's a pity they couldn't have included the John Williams/Irwin Allen phone conversation in the bonus section.
"Hi Irwin. No, I'm REALLY sorry pal, I'm backed up with finishing Close Encounters for Steven, then working with Dick Donner and Brian DePalma and I've promised to do the JAWS sequel as a favour to Sid. But I hear Jerry's not busy..."

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)


There are NO dead bees anywhere either, even though bees normally die after stinging...





I thought only HONEY bees die after stinging, but now I see that Killer bees are a form of Honey Bees, so maybe you're right.
According to the CDC, there's an average of 62 people in the U.S. killed by bee stings every year.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)


There are NO dead bees anywhere either, even though bees normally die after stinging...





Only HONEY bees die after stinging.


But someone being attacked by bees should at least kill a few of them while trying to defend itself. As poisonous as they might be they were not armored to not being possible to be squeezed.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

The opening alone... there is a US Missile Base, EVERYBODY is dead, even though no physical harm on the bodies can be seen.. and the investigating MGs see piles of dead bodies, and what is the first thing they do? Take of all their gas masks!

In Alien: Covenant they wear no masks at all! big grin

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)


Haha! I literately thought it was a disaster spoof. The dead pan acting, OH MY!
Though the helicopter crashes were really cool.


Hahaha! There are just SOOO many scenes in it that are ROFL.. Irwin Allen, who was at the top of his career back then, must have felt invincible to think he could get away with this stuff.

What is so fascinating that this was done with so much money and so much talent in front and behind the camera... what were they thinking?


This film, especially the extended version, is flat out hysterical. I am one of Irwin Allen's biggest fans, and even I know this film is just ridiculous. The screaming scene between Michael Caine and Richard Widmark has to be seen to be believed. There are more tasteless deaths in this film than Towering Inferno and Irwin lovingly dwells on them all. For some reason, Jerry Goldsmith decided to bring is A-Game to this thing. I mean, it's f'n insanely good work and he could have farted in a tape recorderd and still would have been just fine.

Oh Irwin. I miss you.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2020 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Fantastic score...get it while it lasts folks!...

 
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