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 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 1:18 AM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

On this forum I've written, time and again, how much I enjoy all of John Barry's scores and those post Dances with Wolves (1990) are no exception. Certainly his style changed - whose doesn't? - and those later scores became more symphonic, less jazz/pop-orientated.

Each and every time I play Swept from the Sea/Amy Foster (1997) it gets better ... , Mercury Rising (1998) is so good that it helps this film immeasurably (unlike the mundane additional music by Carter Burwell which is so wrong it detracts), Enigma (2001) is perfect (witness the long scene where the codebreakers are waiting for details of shipping losses ... it is the underscore which makes this scene work), Indecent Proposal (1993) has one of the loveliest, romantic scores of any film (again, a pivotal scene - when Robert Redford's character tells Demi Moore's character about the girl on the train ... it works because Barry gets the music spot-on) ...

... and I could list all the other works of the 1990s as being great examples of film scoring. For me, Ruby Cairo (1992) is slightly below par ... a fabulous theme but a little too repetitive for the full score.

But his best - my favourite of his scores from the 1990s - simply my favourite score from that decade: The Specialist (1994) ... nothing to do with JB007, for me, it's simply a wonderful, engrossing score (and I enjoy the film, too!)

It's a shame that Mr. Marshall can't hear the brilliance of these works ... his loss.
Mitch

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 3:44 AM   
 By:   The Juggler   (Member)

I can't believe PLAYING BY HEART only gets one mention. I think it's one of Barry's most sumptuous scores. The end title (Vows Renewed) is my favorite post-DANCES Barry cue.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 4:05 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

The Specialist & Playing By Heart.

No one comes close to John Barry.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 5:14 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I often wonder if I'd have been such a big John Barry fan if he's STARTED with Dances with Wolves, or perhaps Out of Africa. It's a tough question, because as sumptuous as this section of his output was, that kind of score is of less interest to me than those wonderful 60s scores that I grew up loving.

I think the answer to the question actually posed would be The Specialist, which of course is more reminiscent of his golden period in many ways.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 5:38 AM   
 By:   graham.sutton1   (Member)

After 'Dances With Wolves' and in order.

Chaplin
Across The Sea Of Time
Playing By Heart
Indecent Proposal
The Specialist
Cry' The Beloved Country
Swept from the Sea
Mercury Rising
My Life
The Scarlet Letter
Enigma
Ruby Cairo

The thing is being a true John Barry Fan is really finding it hard not to like any of his work so I have put them in order that I like.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 7:01 AM   
 By:   soundtrackman   (Member)

Across The Sea of Time. Then Chaplin. In fact, "Across" is one of my all-time favorite Barry scores, regardless of era.

Mark T

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

Playing by Heart is another..Would if been truly Great Score..If Harvey Fat Boy Womanizer Weinstein hadn’t replaced a lot of Barry’s Score with Chris Young’s music.

You Know John Barry’s scores after Winning his 5Th Oscar for Dances with Wolves, should of been working non stop...Hollywood should of been knocking even harder at Barry’s door. Well Barbra and Redford did come a knocking, but Streisand endless harassment and constant calling and wanting Barry to come to Los Angeles from Oyster Bay New York.

The Flight over New York is the Cue from the beginning The Prince Of Tides...oh Barbra Fail.

TBOT has a few cues from The Horse Whisperer...If Redford left Barry alone also.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)


To be honest, I consider the 1990s, on balance, to be Barry's strongest decade after the 1960s.

Say what?!

The 70s:
WALKABOUT
KING KONG
DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
MOONRAKER
THE LAST VALLEY
THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS....

Music not Muzak!

The 80s:
BODY HEAT
HAMMETT
THE.LIVING DAYLIGHTS....


I rate Dances With Wolves higher than any of those (except possibly The Last Valley), and consider Ruby Cairo, The Specialist, The Scarlet Letter and Playing By Heart every bit as good as the examples you listed.

Barry's "batting average" was also better in the 90s. Despite some gems in the 70s and 80s, they were offset by a lot of workmanlike efforts.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

He.never did anything worthwhile after DWW.

Why do you have to post this and the other mundane posts in this thread. Nothing positive about these for a question offered by the OP.

I remember everyone getting fed up with YOR....


That's my opinion.
If you don't like it , stuff it.
Have a nice day smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I often wonder if I'd have been such a big John Barry fan if he's STARTED with Dances with Wolves, or perhaps Out of Africa. It's a tough question, because as sumptuous as this section of his output was, that kind of score is of less interest to me than those wonderful 60s scores that I grew up loving.

.


You wouldn't, I wouldn't.
Even Woolston wouldn't.
His muzak period appeals to women and Golden Agers wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Barry wrote some great " lush, symphonic, sumptuous, gorgeous.." Scores in the previous decades.
I listed them.

If you don't hear the diff. Between those great scores and his post OOA ones, you're not listening closely.

To each his own.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   Deadwalker   (Member)

For me it's

Indecent Proposal
The Specialist
The Scarlet Letter
Across the Sea of Time
Enigma

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

To all those who love the film music of John Barry don't waste your time replying to Mr.Marshall like I did. The man is here on this board to be a negative clown. It's my polite way of saying horse's ---.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Chaplin and The Specialist are the only ones I've played more than once from start to finish (and despite both playing as if on a loop, particularly the latter).

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

Lots of good ones but Playing by Heart is my favourite - absolute A-grade John Barry gold.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

To all those who love the film music of John Barry don't waste your time replying to Mr.Marshall like I did. The man is here on this board to be a negative clown. It's my polite way of saying horse's ---.

What's with the personal insults, old timer?

Btw one has to.laugh at your use of the term ' negative'. You never stop whining about the.people on this board who don't like Golden Age music; calling them ignorant people who don't " know.what real music is"
You never stop criticizing labels.for not releasing music YOU want.
Look in the mirror, pops.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I'm probably the.longest, most ardent Barry lover here.
I'm aiming my comments at younger listeners who may not.be familiar with early Barry.
Take it or leave it.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

Chaplin seems to be the only post-DWW one I was enthusiastic for.

Looking at a list of his music, I'm intrigued about a Brighton Rock musical circa 2004. Was this ever produced on stage?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

That's my opinion.
If you don't like it , stuff it.


Maybe, Bruce, YOU should show some respect for differing opinions in this topic, and then cooler heads would prevail.

Love Dances With Wolves. Since then, I guess I mostly liked Scarlett Letter and Indecent Proposal.

 
 Posted:   Aug 13, 2019 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Cool it, please, folks. Being Respectful of differing opinions and free of insults would be ideal.

As for Barry, The Scarlet Letter is gorgeous!

 
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