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 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

What's the deal with the rights issue regarding Lionheart?

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Word on the street is Varese liked Spinmeister's album back cover so much they're going to reprint with it.

Now that's funny.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   Nono   (Member)

considering what Paul Verhoeven told in Soundtrack Magazine in 1997, his choice could have been different at that time, though.

What did Mr. Verhoeven say to Soundtrack Magazine?


https://cnmsarchive.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/paul-verhoeven-on-basil-poledouris/

"Will you hire Basil again?
Yes, sure, but not for every movie. I have always tried to work with a couple of photographers and a couple of composers; I feel one is more suited for this movie and one is better for another movie. For THE CRUSADES, for example, Basil would be an excellent choice."

He had spent many months, maybe a whole year, working with Basil Poledouris at that time.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

considering what Paul Verhoeven told in Soundtrack Magazine in 1997, his choice could have been different at that time, though.

What did Mr. Verhoeven say to Soundtrack Magazine?


https://cnmsarchive.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/paul-verhoeven-on-basil-poledouris/

"Will you hire Basil again?
Yes, sure, but not for every movie. I have always tried to work with a couple of photographers and a couple of composers; I feel one is more suited for this movie and one is better for another movie. For THE CRUSADES, for example, Basil would be an excellent choice."

He had spent many months, maybe a whole year, working with Basil Poledouris at that time.


Thanks, Mr. Nono. smile

Now, does anyone have any info on the rights issue regarding Lionheart? Are we going to wind up with another "Blood in Blood Out" situation?

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

"another Blood In Blood Out"
--------------------------
Or ORCA KILLER WHALE?
Maybe Bob Townson has some dibs on it that need clearing?

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 11:50 AM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Or ORCA KILLER WHALE?
Maybe Bob Townson has some dibs on it that need clearing?


Trust me, there's no "Robert Townson" credited on the back cover. wink

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   Martin B.   (Member)

Didn't someone say that there was a printing issue on the spine.

Probably the delay is due to that and printing new inlay covers ?

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   Jurassic T. Park   (Member)

Or ORCA KILLER WHALE?
Maybe Bob Townson has some dibs on it that need clearing?


Trust me, there's no "Robert Townson" credited on the back cover. wink


I don't think the back cover can fit any more names.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 12:04 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I finally ordered this from Intrada!

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I bet there are some relieved UK customers who are glad they got their copies next day, in case this deal goes south.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   HalloweenBorg   (Member)

I bet there are some relieved UK customers who are glad they got their copies next day, in case this deal goes south.

My delay said because of artwork issues. It will be 6 weeks.

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 12:52 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Never watched the movie. Never heard the score. Are either of them any good?

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

The movie is awful, BoaJ.
The score, depending on who you read, is either one of the greatest ever by Goldsmith, or a decent mid tier effort that sounds very similar to Explorers at times, or total later years Goldsmith garbage that stomps on the legacies of The Sand Pebbles and Patton and The Wind & The Lion and...
What isn't in doubt is a very ropey orchestral performance and some typical 80s JG silly synth-phonies.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   Giant Robot   (Member)

considering what Paul Verhoeven told in Soundtrack Magazine in 1997, his choice could have been different at that time, though.

What did Mr. Verhoeven say to Soundtrack Magazine?


https://cnmsarchive.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/paul-verhoeven-on-basil-poledouris/

"Will you hire Basil again?
Yes, sure, but not for every movie. I have always tried to work with a couple of photographers and a couple of composers; I feel one is more suited for this movie and one is better for another movie. For THE CRUSADES, for example, Basil would be an excellent choice."

He had spent many months, maybe a whole year, working with Basil Poledouris at that time.


Funny. The print issues of FSM at the time had Goldsmith listed for Crusades for months before the project fell through.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Nono   (Member)

considering what Paul Verhoeven told in Soundtrack Magazine in 1997, his choice could have been different at that time, though.

What did Mr. Verhoeven say to Soundtrack Magazine?


https://cnmsarchive.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/paul-verhoeven-on-basil-poledouris/

"Will you hire Basil again?
Yes, sure, but not for every movie. I have always tried to work with a couple of photographers and a couple of composers; I feel one is more suited for this movie and one is better for another movie. For THE CRUSADES, for example, Basil would be an excellent choice."

He had spent many months, maybe a whole year, working with Basil Poledouris at that time.


Funny. The print issues of FSM at the time had Goldsmith listed for Crusades for months before the project fell through.



The project fell through in 1994 if I'm not wrong, the interview in Soundtrack Magazine is from 1997.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   HAL 2000   (Member)

considering what Paul Verhoeven told in Soundtrack Magazine in 1997, his choice could have been different at that time, though.

What did Mr. Verhoeven say to Soundtrack Magazine?


https://cnmsarchive.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/paul-verhoeven-on-basil-poledouris/

"Will you hire Basil again?
Yes, sure, but not for every movie. I have always tried to work with a couple of photographers and a couple of composers; I feel one is more suited for this movie and one is better for another movie. For THE CRUSADES, for example, Basil would be an excellent choice."

He had spent many months, maybe a whole year, working with Basil Poledouris at that time.


Funny. The print issues of FSM at the time had Goldsmith listed for Crusades for months before the project fell through.



The project fell through in 1994 if I'm not wrong, the interview in Soundtrack Magazine is from 1997.


You probably remember some other big projects Goldsmith was slated for as reported in FSM back in the 90s. Before "Crusades" he was supposed to work with Verhoeven on a pirate movie called "Mistress of The Seas" (which, I think, mutated into "Cutthroat Island" who's failure ironically put Carolco into bankruptcy and is part pf the reason Crusades didn't get made). He was also supposed to do a new version of Moby Dick. I was so disappointed when those projects died.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Didn't someone say that there was a printing issue on the spine. Probably the delay is due to that and printing new inlay covers ?

Yes, one of the spines has a printing error. The name "Goldsmith" has been replaced by the name "Lionheart". I emailed Varese about it but didn't get a reply.

Could it be they are correcting it?

 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Never watched the movie. Never heard the score. Are either of them any good?

Movie bad.

Score good.

Had it been conceived and orchestrated with the National Philharmonic Orchestra in mind to perform there would be no debate about its being another of JG's standout 80's era adventure scores.

Sadly, however, the orchestration is dumbed down for the not so great Hungarian orchestra and the result turns into a glass half full/half empty sort of affair.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)



This.

 
 
 Posted:   May 7, 2021 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I don't think a mis-printed spine would cause any 'rights issues' John.
My guess is it's maybe more to do with the old Masters Film Music/Robert Townson connection.

 
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