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Of course it was recorded by Ross at the HPCOS recording sessions. There is no world in which Warner Brothers would have licensed recorded Star Wars music from FOX/Lucasfilm to track into their film. It's not identical to the AOTC version anyway, it's adapted.
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Although I still haven't fully absorbed these scores yet, somewhere down the line, I'm gonna attempt a 'Classic John Williams double LP set' Whittle edition for each film. That will be a nice, representative 'on the go' play-list, running between 60-75 minutes, capturing all the highlights of each score and whittling out the flab and more incidental type cues. Anyone started down that road yet? Care to share? You mean the original albums? You twit.
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I would have given him a pass back then because of the nature of this score's composition and recording. Less so for the constant re-use of the action lick in "Ludlow's Demise" that continues almost to this day!
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Like others, I'm thoroughly enjoying working my way through all the glorious music. I'm trying to whittle down the tracks to a shorter listening experience but it's proving difficult.
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We don't talk about self plagiarizing unless the name is Horner. I know you're teasing, but we actually do. And I don't see what's wrong with reusing a melody here and there – all the greats have done it. Certainly Rózsa and Herrmann. Oh, and Beethoven. But one can approve of reusing melodies and still be sick of the danger motif. What’s the difference between a melody and a theme? Asking for a friend.
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I was using them interchangeably, though I suppose a theme has to be recurring, whereas a melody does not. Does a theme necessarily have to be recurring? Is The Asteroid Chase not a theme but merely a melody? Can’t there be a theme that represents a one time event? Did The Jedi Steps only graduate to being a theme from being a melody after it was reused in The Last Jedi? Yavar
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I was using them interchangeably, though I suppose a theme has to be recurring, whereas a melody does not. Does a theme necessarily have to be recurring? Is The Asteroid Chase not a theme but merely a melody? Can’t there be a theme that represents a one time event? Did The Jedi Steps only graduate to being a theme from being a melody after it was reused in The Last Jedi? Well, I am certainly not a scholar in this regard. The dictionary defines "theme" in this respect as "a prominent or frequently recurring melody or group of notes in a composition." "Melody" is defined as "a sequence of single notes that is musically satisfying." So I would say, in a purist sense, that "The Asteroid Field" has a theme that recurs within that piece, as, to a lesser extent (it's shorter), does "The Jedi Steps." I think in the context of film scores, we tend to use "theme" to mean a melody applied to a specific character, event, or idea, even if that thing does not recur within the film and/or score. But I don't think there's any need to be didactic about it here. We all know what we mean.
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I don't know what we mean.
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So I would say, in a purist sense, that "The Asteroid Field" has a theme that recurs within that piece, as, to a lesser extent (it's shorter), does "The Jedi Steps." Ah, good point. Yavar
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