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 Posted:   Jan 9, 2019 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Of course it was recorded by Ross at the HPCOS recording sessions. There is no world in which Warner Brothers would have licensed recorded Star Wars music from FOX/Lucasfilm to track into their film.

It's not identical to the AOTC version anyway, it's adapted.

 
 Posted:   Jan 9, 2019 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   Oscarilbo   (Member)

Of course it was recorded by Ross at the HPCOS recording sessions. There is no world in which Warner Brothers would have licensed recorded Star Wars music from FOX/Lucasfilm to track into their film.

It's not identical to the AOTC version anyway, it's adapted.


Thanks Jason, that's what I suspected

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 6:50 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Although I still haven't fully absorbed these scores yet, somewhere down the line, I'm gonna attempt a 'Classic John Williams double LP set' Whittle edition for each film.
That will be a nice, representative 'on the go' play-list, running between 60-75 minutes, capturing all the highlights of each score and whittling out the flab and more incidental type cues.
Anyone started down that road yet?
Care to share?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Ant   (Member)

representative 'on the go' play-list, running between 60-75 minutes, capturing all the highlights of each score and whittling out the flab and more incidental type cues.
Anyone started down that road yet?
Care to share?


01. The Prologue - Privet Drive (4:32)
02. Visit To The Zoo (3:01)
03. Don’t Burn My Letter (2:06)
04. Letters From Hogwarts (1:43)
05. Harry’s Wish And Hagrid’s Entrance (1:24)
06. Through the Doors (2:01)
07. Harry Gets His Wand (2:07)
08. Platform Nine And Three Quarters (2:41)
09. The Journey To Hogwarts (2:08)
10. Owl Delivers Nimbus 2000 (1:15)
11. Fighting The Troll (3:49)
12. Hermione’s Reading (1:10)
13. The Quidditch Match (8:29)
14. Hagrid’s Christmas Tree (:57)
15. Christmas Morning And The Invisibility Cloak (7:24)
16. In The Devil’s Snare (2:29)
17. The Chess Game (3:49) [Original album version]
18. The Face Of Voldemort (6:13)
19. Leaving Hogwarts (2:17)
20. Harry’s Wondrous World (5:27) [Extended Version]
21. Hedwig’s Theme (5:05)

1:09:58

I've done II and III as well, but they require editing and some more explanation, so they are not really that easy to share.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Although I still haven't fully absorbed these scores yet, somewhere down the line, I'm gonna attempt a 'Classic John Williams double LP set' Whittle edition for each film.
That will be a nice, representative 'on the go' play-list, running between 60-75 minutes, capturing all the highlights of each score and whittling out the flab and more incidental type cues.
Anyone started down that road yet?
Care to share?


You mean the original albums? You twit.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


Does it includes the "reuse" of the Attack of the Clones action music in Chamber of Secrets?

Of course.


Does the booklet mention anything about that?

Of course not.


Pardon me Jason if this has been brought before, but in short, what would be the story behind that ?


We don't talk about self plagiarizing unless the name is Horner. embarrassment

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I would have given him a pass back then because of the nature of this score's composition and recording. Less so for the constant re-use of the action lick in "Ludlow's Demise" that continues almost to this day!

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Although I still haven't fully absorbed these scores yet, somewhere down the line, I'm gonna attempt a 'Classic John Williams double LP set' Whittle edition for each film.
That will be a nice, representative 'on the go' play-list, running between 60-75 minutes, capturing all the highlights of each score and whittling out the flab and more incidental type cues.
Anyone started down that road yet?
Care to share?


I've thought about doing this as well, but then I realize that we already have the classic Williams double LP styled set, which are the original CD releases. They're already around 70-75 minutes and contain the majority of the highlights so I'm a little stymied at what I would do differently. This is unlike getting all the music for "1941", "Black Sunday" or "Dracula" and trying to figure out a longer 2-LP style sequencing.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   soundtrackdan   (Member)

Like others, I'm thoroughly enjoying working my way through all the glorious music. I'm trying to whittle down the tracks to a shorter listening experience but it's proving difficult.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

We don't talk about self plagiarizing unless the name is Horner. embarrassment

I know you're teasing, but we actually do. And I don't see what's wrong with reusing a melody here and there – all the greats have done it. Certainly Rózsa and Herrmann. Oh, and Beethoven.

But one can approve of reusing melodies and still be sick of the danger motif.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   HalloweenBorg   (Member)

We don't talk about self plagiarizing unless the name is Horner. embarrassment

I know you're teasing, but we actually do. And I don't see what's wrong with reusing a melody here and there – all the greats have done it. Certainly Rózsa and Herrmann. Oh, and Beethoven.

But one can approve of reusing melodies and still be sick of the danger motif.


What’s the difference between a melody and a theme? Asking for a friend.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

What’s the difference between a melody and a theme? Asking for a friend.

I was using them interchangeably, though I suppose a theme has to be recurring, whereas a melody does not.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   sajrocks   (Member)

a nice, representative 'on the go' play-list, running between 60-75 minutes, capturing all the highlights of each score and whittling out the flab and more incidental type cues. Anyone started down that road yet? Care to share?

my commute-ready 73 min playlist below! obvs very similar to the original cd version with a few major departures. kinda miss "hagrid's flashback" and "mr. longbottom flies". i've also officially placed "the quidditch match" in my top three longform williams action cues ever, behind "escape / chase / saying goodbye" and the first 35 minutes of ESB.

1. The Prologue - Privet Drive
2. Visit To The Zoo
3. You're A Wizard, Harry
4. Diagon Alley And The Gringotts Vault (Extended Version)
5. Harry Gets His Wand
6. Platform Nine And Three Quarters
7. Entry Into The Great Hall And The Banquet
8. The Moving Stairs
9. Fighting The Troll
10. The Quidditch Match
11. Christmas Morning And The Invisibility Cloak
12. The Dark Forest
13. The Chess Game (Extended Version)
14. The Face Of Voldemort
15. Leaving Hogwarts
16. Harry's Wondrous World (Extended Version)

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

a nice, representative 'on the go' play-list, running between 60-75 minutes, capturing all the highlights of each score and whittling out the flab and more incidental type cues. Anyone started down that road yet? Care to share?

my commute-ready 73 min playlist below! obvs very similar to the original cd version with a few major departures. kinda miss "hagrid's flashback" and "mr. longbottom flies". i've also officially placed "the quidditch match" in my top three longform williams action cues ever, behind "escape / chase / saying goodbye" and the first 35 minutes of ESB.

1. The Prologue - Privet Drive
2. Visit To The Zoo
3. You're A Wizard, Harry
4. Diagon Alley And The Gringotts Vault (Extended Version)
5. Harry Gets His Wand
6. Platform Nine And Three Quarters
7. Entry Into The Great Hall And The Banquet
8. The Moving Stairs
9. Fighting The Troll
10. The Quidditch Match
11. Christmas Morning And The Invisibility Cloak
12. The Dark Forest
13. The Chess Game (Extended Version)
14. The Face Of Voldemort
15. Leaving Hogwarts
16. Harry's Wondrous World (Extended Version)



What about the mirror of erised

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I was using them interchangeably, though I suppose a theme has to be recurring, whereas a melody does not.

Does a theme necessarily have to be recurring? Is The Asteroid Chase not a theme but merely a melody? Can’t there be a theme that represents a one time event? Did The Jedi Steps only graduate to being a theme from being a melody after it was reused in The Last Jedi?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   sajrocks   (Member)

What about the mirror of erised

oh man. that is a lovely piece. and i just now remembered that insane string counter melody in the "change of season" section. i removed for flow (the chill, lengthy "christmas morning / invisibility cloak" is a lot of downtime from the action stuff), but may add back. thank you!

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I was using them interchangeably, though I suppose a theme has to be recurring, whereas a melody does not.

Does a theme necessarily have to be recurring? Is The Asteroid Chase not a theme but merely a melody? Can’t there be a theme that represents a one time event? Did The Jedi Steps only graduate to being a theme from being a melody after it was reused in The Last Jedi?


Well, I am certainly not a scholar in this regard. The dictionary defines "theme" in this respect as "a prominent or frequently recurring melody or group of notes in a composition." "Melody" is defined as "a sequence of single notes that is musically satisfying."

So I would say, in a purist sense, that "The Asteroid Field" has a theme that recurs within that piece, as, to a lesser extent (it's shorter), does "The Jedi Steps." I think in the context of film scores, we tend to use "theme" to mean a melody applied to a specific character, event, or idea, even if that thing does not recur within the film and/or score.

But I don't think there's any need to be didactic about it here. We all know what we mean.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I don't know what we mean.

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

So I would say, in a purist sense, that "The Asteroid Field" has a theme that recurs within that piece, as, to a lesser extent (it's shorter), does "The Jedi Steps."

Ah, good point.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jan 18, 2019 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

We don't talk about self plagiarizing unless the name is Horner. embarrassment

I know you're teasing, but we actually do. And I don't see what's wrong with reusing a melody here and there – all the greats have done it. Certainly Rózsa and Herrmann. Oh, and Beethoven.

But one can approve of reusing melodies and still be sick of the danger motif.


I personally never get tired of the danger motif. In fact I get a kick out of it. But I do understand it was so over used it would make a lot of people cringe.

 
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