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 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 8:05 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

See this one in the bottom right?

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Sabrina is also on the bottom left.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

When MV mentioned their 500th was a huge one it was certain that the actual title would cause dissapointment.
If it was a golden age box of unreleased scores a lot would complain it was obscure and not big enough, If It was the Indiana Jones original trilogy a lot would complain it was unnecessary after the Concord release, If It was a Star Wars episodes I to VI a lot would complain to have to buy again episodes IV to VI. Even if it was FTETTM a lot would complain it was a TV score and not a big film franchise.

I was not expecting Planet of the Apes and in fact I'm very happy with the existing releases of 2, 4 and 5. But I'm very excited for any improvement on 1 and 3. And with the others improved as well it is indeed a huge release.
Just curious to more details on the sources uses for this new release.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Even if it was FTETTM a lot would complain it was a TV score and not a big film franchise.


I don't think so, otherwise it wouldnt have been suggested to fit the clues by several people, including being mostly premiere material. People would mainly complain because it wasnt what they wanted. And even the APES Box has the same complaint-potential as the film franchises you mentioned - they are all re-issues.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 8:49 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)



But somebody please explain what the hell is that SABRINA ??

Netflix's Chilling Adventures Of Sabrina scored by Adam Taylor. It shares a lineage with Riverdale (no crossovers yet).

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

The cover literally says the full name of the series and IMDb only has one title by this name, so I'm not sure how anybody could be confused by it.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I don't think so, otherwise it wouldnt have been suggested to fit the clues by several people, including being mostly premiere material.

But there were no clues from LLL, aside from it being "a big one" -- there was nothing about it tying in with an anniversary, there was nothing about it being for a franchise, and there was nothing about it being mostly premiere material.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I don't think so, otherwise it wouldnt have been suggested to fit the clues by several people, including being mostly premiere material.

But there were no clues from LLL, aside from it being "a big one" -- there was nothing about it tying in with an anniversary, there was nothing about it being for a franchise, and there was nothing about it being mostly premiere material.

Yavar


Yes, there were no formal clues. I was explaining the rationale behind the guess which were partially based on MV's comments and the timing of the release. You already dismissed the rationale a few posts above, so I'll repost my reply that:

Because it was the 500th, people assumed the release would celebrate some anniversary. Because it was happening in July, folks guessed it would be the FETTMOON miniseries to commemorate the Apollo moon landing. When MV announced the release date when Apollo landed, it seemed certain.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 9:17 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Because it was the 500th, people assumed the release would celebrate some anniversary.

I get the whole 50th anniversary of the moon landing thing, which just turned out to be an amazing coincidence. I get all that rationale. I don't get your sentence above. Why would LLL's 500th release (which is not an anniversary thing; it's just their 500th release) make people assume that it would be tied in with some annivesary? I don't remember anyone saying that and it wouldn't have made sense if they had.

Heck, even if it was a release commemorating LLL's 10th anniversary, say...why would even that mean that the release would have to be celebrating some anniversary of a film or franchise or event?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

We never said we are doing From the Earth to the Moon. Would like to some day. All you guys build yourself up in a fervor over nothing. That's why we didn't say anything about this in advance. I simply said it's a big release for us and it's our 500th title. It's the first time Varese has partnered up with a label like us AND it's the ultimate simian franchise...and if you know me I got mad monkey love!

To be honest with you, we picked this date not because of Apollo 11. It never even occurred to us. We picked it because we usually have something cool around Comic Con week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The July 16th date was purely coincidental and quite humorous if you ask me.

As for doing more stuff with Varese we shall see. The whole Disney deal may make that very difficult with the Fox titles.

MV

PS FTETTM was a wonderful mini series, but jeez guys -- it ain't worthy of a 500th release!


I want it on record that I foolishly and hopelessly predicted it would be GoldenEye with the Altman Tank Chase cue. Despite all evidence to the contrary and the obvious fact that GoldenEye alone no where near warrants a 500th release, I stuck to my guns. I will continue to do this each month until the score either ends up released or I end up seeing a psychologist. Whichever happens first I'm okay with.


 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I get the whole 50th anniversary of the moon landing thing, which just turned out to be an amazing coincidence. I get all that rationale. I don't get your sentence above. Why would LLL's 500th release (which is not an anniversary thing; it's just their 500th release) make people assume that it would be tied in with some annivesary? I don't remember anyone saying that and it wouldn't have made sense if they had.
Yavar


People were making an educated guess, based on experience with LLL, that an Anniversary release of some movie, tv series (or event) would make sense for a "big" 500th release. The idea started a few pages into this thread. The point is it wasn't just a random guess for a title they wanted.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

People were making an educated guess, based on experience with LLL, that an Anniversary release of some movie, tv series (or event) would make sense for a "big" 500th release. It wasn't just a random guess for a title they wanted.

I was one of those making an educated guess. smile However, LLL has rarely if ever tied in their releases with an anniversary of something...I think there was a John Morris score that was a 19th anniversary release, or something. I think to some extent, trying to hit an anniversary to release something is kinda like tempting fate to throw a wrench in your plans. Yet I was still hopeful myself, due to the Blu-ray release and thinking that HBO may have worked out a tie-in deal with LLL.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

See this one in the bottom right?



Beautiful.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I was one of those making an educated guess. smile However, LLL has rarely if ever tied in their releases with an anniversary of something...I think there was a John Morris score that was a 19th anniversary release, or something. I think to some extent, trying to hit an anniversary to release something is kinda like tempting fate to throw a wrench in your plans. Yet I was still hopeful myself, due to the Blu-ray release and thinking that HBO may have worked out a tie-in deal with LLL.
Yavar


Just off the top of my head, or my CD shelf, the LOST IN SPACE and LAND OF THE GIANTS were 50th Anniversary releases. But maybe you mean this would be problematic to coincide with the actual 1969 moon landing as opposed to the 1998 TV series. If they start any project early enough, it's possible to get it done for an anniversary.

Certain folks here are pretty good at reading the tea leaves, but in this case, I wasnt completely surprised (or disappointed) that this turned out different.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

I was one of those making an educated guess. smile However, LLL has rarely if ever tied in their releases with an anniversary of something...I think there was a John Morris score that was a 19th anniversary release, or something. I think to some extent, trying to hit an anniversary to release something is kinda like tempting fate to throw a wrench in your plans. Yet I was still hopeful myself, due to the Blu-ray release and thinking that HBO may have worked out a tie-in deal with LLL.
Yavar


Just off the top of my head, or my CD shelf, the LOST IN SPACE and LAND OF THE GIANTS were 50th Anniversary releases. But maybe you mean this would be problematic to coincide with the actual 1969 moon landing as opposed to the 1998 TV series. If they start any project early enough, it's possible to get it done for an anniversary.

Certain folks here are pretty good at reading the tea leaves, but in this case, I wasnt completely surprised (or disappointed) that this turned out different.


They started the expanded Mission: Impossible score early enough, 5 1/2 years ago, in advance of the film's 20th anniversary and missed it due to all sorts of things out of their control (studio clearances, sign-offs from parties involved, legal delays, etc). Even starting a project "early enough" is no guarantee of releasing it in time for an anniversary, it's just not smart for LLL to plan for and promise such deliveries. These archival soundtrack albums they produce are always, always in flux, from what I've learned from years of talking with the guys at LLL.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I was one of those making an educated guess. smile However, LLL has rarely if ever tied in their releases with an anniversary of something...I think there was a John Morris score that was a 19th anniversary release, or something. I think to some extent, trying to hit an anniversary to release something is kinda like tempting fate to throw a wrench in your plans. Yet I was still hopeful myself, due to the Blu-ray release and thinking that HBO may have worked out a tie-in deal with LLL.
Yavar


Just off the top of my head, or my CD shelf, the LOST IN SPACE and LAND OF THE GIANTS were 50th Anniversary releases. But maybe you mean this would be problematic to coincide with the actual 1969 moon landing as opposed to the 1998 TV series. If they start any project early enough, it's possible to get it done for an anniversary.

Certain folks here are pretty good at reading the tea leaves, but in this case, I wasnt completely surprised (or disappointed) that this turned out different.


They started the expanded Mission: Impossible score early enough, 5 1/2 years ago, in advance of the film's 20th anniversary and missed it due to all sorts of things out of their control (studio clearances, sign-offs from parties involved, legal delays, etc). Even starting a project "early enough" is no guarantee of releasing it in time for an anniversary, it's just not smart for LLL to plan for and promise such deliveries. These archival soundtrack albums they produce are always, always in flux, from what I've learned from years of talking with the guys at LLL.


Noone said an "anniversary" project was guaranteed. Yavar wrote (right at the top) "LLL has rarely if ever tied in their releases with an anniversary of something..." I don't know if he meant an event as opposed to movie/tv, but I pointed out two relatively recent anniversary releases. The point being that an "anniversary" aspect to this release was not as far fetched as he implied.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Fair enough. I should have left it at “rarely” and not added “if ever” afterwards. smile I still don’t see any logical reason why one would expect their 500th release would likely be some sort of anniversary title, to boot.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Fair enough. I should have left it at “rarely” and not added “if ever” afterwards. smile I still don’t see any logical reason why one would expect their 500th release would likely be some sort of anniversary title, to boot.

Yavar


Sigh. I think you're in denial because there was no premier Goldsmith material. It's an unhealthy obsession.

 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2019 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I wasn't expecting any premiere Goldsmith material. To be fair, LLL has already released a whopping TWO Goldsmith premieres this year (the super-addictive pilot scores for Archer and Barnaby Jones). I'm thinking it's Intrada's turn to do the next one. smile

I'll be honest; much as I am impressed and excited by this PotA box set, I would have been more excited to get From the Earth to the Moon. I just don't think LLL/MV actually said or indicated anything that would have led us to believe it would be that title as their 500th release (aside from scheduling the 50th anniversary of the moon landing as their release date, but that was apparently unintentional and total coincidence).

Yavar

 
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