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 Posted:   Apr 15, 2020 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I recall Intrada saying they tried to do Mulan but I don't remember them commenting on Rescuers.
Rescuers did well at the box office so it's one of Disneys little darlings. The Rescuers Down Under bombed along with The Black Caldron so I can see why they would pass them onto Intrada. I suspect The Great Mouse Detective would be an Intrada release also. It's another film Disney has swept under the rug.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2020 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

I recall Intrada saying they tried to do Mulan but I don't remember them commenting on Rescuers.
Rescuers did well at the box office so it's one of Disneys little darlings. The Rescuers Down Under bombed along with The Black Caldron so I can see why they would pass them onto Intrada. I suspect The Great Mouse Detective would be an Intrada release also. It's another film Disney has swept under the rug.


Here’s Roger’s quote on Rescuers from the link included in my previous post:

I had asked about The Rescuers, but Disney wanted to retain that one for their own (potential) plans.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2020 - 10:59 PM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

I know thats on nobodys mind..but imagine a crisp...full stereo...newly recorded BAMBI by Tadlow...
I consider BAMBI as being one of the most sophisticated works in filmscoring.
Second wish would be a rerecording of PETER PAN.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2020 - 11:25 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

I'm pretty sure Disney didn't want anyone stepping on their brand new release of the live-action Mulan (even though it's shown that tie-in material like this snowballs interest in related properties).

I wouldn't be surprised if Disney had a photo-realistic remake of The Rescuers in mind, at this rate.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2020 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I know thats on nobodys mind..but imagine a crisp...full stereo...newly recorded BAMBI by Tadlow...
I consider BAMBI as being one of the most sophisticated works in filmscoring.
Second wish would be a rerecording of PETER PAN.


Yes, this is my dream rerecording and I agree its one of the finest scores ever written, along with Pinocchio. Not Tadlow though, they take to many artistic liberties in their re-recordings.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2020 - 6:43 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Is a "Jungle Book" (1967 animation movie) release a possibility? I am not completely satisfied with the old 1990's Polydor soundtrack album (the sound is not so good i.m.o.). Even I miss at least one cue where Baloo and Mowgli are making a training fight. Maybe with some alternates and extras it could be a nice Legacy-CD.

Strangely enough the liner notes for the 90's release says first time complete. Obviously it's not. I made a break down at one time of the music missing from that release. Perhaps in this thread. I don't recall everything but its also missing the music when Mowgli is kidnapped by the monkeys.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2020 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I finally purchased the original Sleeping Beauty 1959 OST off of iTunes. I haven't done a cue by cue comparison with the expanded 90's/Legacy Collection edition. But here's a few observations about this release.

12 tracks/34mins (approx)

Blue Bird/ I wonder: Intro (first 10 seconds) different and not on the 90’s expanded edition or Legacy Collection edition.

Maleficent’s Evil Spell: Doesn’t include the haunting “Aurora” voice overlay.

Fairies to the Rescue/Bacchanal: Not on 90’s expanded edition or Legacy Collection edition.

I don't know if I missed any other differences.


The OST is on YT.


Blue Bird / I Wonder


Fairies to the Rescue/Bacchanal

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2020 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   rhollowood   (Member)

They'll sit on them until the tapes disintegrate.

There is constant preservation going on at Disney so that's unlikely to be the case. Getting things to market is very slow for them. Often because the projects were never contracted / licensed for commercial use. There are other rationales for what does or doesn't go to market as well. I'm sure the struggle to get things pressed and delivered for the last year is a factor. I personally find it frustrating to see an emphasis on re-releasing things on vinyl as physical product instead of new releases on CD. There's a vinyl record of the John Williams composition for Galaxy's Edge byt no CD. Go figure. The lack of a CD for Onward and the lack of a physical release of the Frozen II Deluxe edition are recent examples of things that SHOULD have physical product but don't for whatever reason. The pace of the Legacy Collection is glacial if it's going still at all. I expected we might get an Aladdin Legacy collection last year with the live action Aladdin but it hasn't materialized. Lack of corporate synergy (unlikely) or perhaps low sales of Beauty and the Beast Legacy Collection (since it trailed the live action BatB release so significantly? Maybe. Only the people at Disney Records know. But having interacted with a person or two inside Disney Records over the years, the preservation work absolutely happens and has been ongoing for around 30 years.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2020 - 6:40 PM   
 By:   Mark Mostel   (Member)

I know thats on nobodys mind..but imagine a crisp...full stereo...newly recorded BAMBI by Tadlow...
I consider BAMBI as being one of the most sophisticated works in filmscoring.
Second wish would be a rerecording of PETER PAN.


All of the vintage Disney scores need to be (and could be) re-recorded. There have been okay re-recordings of Disney music before, but to my knowledge none of them were complete or faithful enough to truly replace the original recordings. Disney has literal thousands of original composer manuscripts/sketches all the way back to SNOW WHITE and I don't know why they haven't done anything with them. Lost scores like PETER PAN and ALICE really deserve a second chance on CD.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2020 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   Mark Mostel   (Member)

Is a "Jungle Book" (1967 animation movie) release a possibility? I am not completely satisfied with the old 1990's Polydor soundtrack album (the sound is not so good i.m.o.). Even I miss at least one cue where Baloo and Mowgli are making a training fight. Maybe with some alternates and extras it could be a nice Legacy-CD.

Strangely enough the liner notes for the 90's release says first time complete. Obviously it's not. I made a break down at one time of the music missing from that release. Perhaps in this thread. I don't recall everything but its also missing the music when Mowgli is kidnapped by the monkeys.


It's also worth noting that, much like SLEEPING BEAUTY, the complete stereo tracks were restored at some point but have never shown up on CD...I'm not very familiar with the original JUNGLE BOOK release but I distinctly recall that a lot of the tracks, both song and score, are from some sort of 2nd generation mono source. This is odd since the home video restoration sounds pristine.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2020 - 6:59 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

I know thats on nobodys mind..but imagine a crisp...full stereo...newly recorded BAMBI by Tadlow...
I consider BAMBI as being one of the most sophisticated works in filmscoring.
Second wish would be a rerecording of PETER PAN.


All of the vintage Disney scores need to be (and could be) re-recorded. There have been okay re-recordings of Disney music before, but to my knowledge none of them were complete or faithful enough to truly replace the original recordings. Disney has literal thousands of original composer manuscripts/sketches all the way back to SNOW WHITE and I don't know why they haven't done anything with them. Lost scores like PETER PAN and ALICE really deserve a second chance on CD.


I think part of the problem as to why Disney hasn’t bothered re-recording the early scores is concerns about finding singers that sound close to the vocalists in their respective films, although this is a non-issue as far as Bambi is concerned since none of the songs are sung by any of the principle characters. That said, re-recordings for scores that mostly exist from MFX tracks like the last two scores you mentioned would be beneficial.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2020 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   Mark Mostel   (Member)

I know thats on nobodys mind..but imagine a crisp...full stereo...newly recorded BAMBI by Tadlow...
I consider BAMBI as being one of the most sophisticated works in filmscoring.
Second wish would be a rerecording of PETER PAN.


All of the vintage Disney scores need to be (and could be) re-recorded. There have been okay re-recordings of Disney music before, but to my knowledge none of them were complete or faithful enough to truly replace the original recordings. Disney has literal thousands of original composer manuscripts/sketches all the way back to SNOW WHITE and I don't know why they haven't done anything with them. Lost scores like PETER PAN and ALICE really deserve a second chance on CD.


I think part of the problem as to why Disney hasn’t bothered re-recording the early scores is concerns about finding singers that sound close to the vocalists in their respective films, although this is a non-issue as far as Bambi is concerned since none of the songs are sung by any of the principle characters. That said, re-recordings for scores that mostly exist from MFX tracks like the last two scores you mentioned would be beneficial.


Is that normal practice for re-recording vintage musicals or other material using singers? I know nothing about the subject, but I can't imagine why that would be necessary since Disney has most of the original studio recordings with their voice talent. I suppose the idea is that the age of the recordings makes them unsuitable for use alongside a modern-day recording of the music? That seems rather silly when the point should be to preserve the original material. There are examples of low quality vocals laid over a higher quality music recording that sound fine.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2020 - 8:11 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I know thats on nobodys mind..but imagine a crisp...full stereo...newly recorded BAMBI by Tadlow...
I consider BAMBI as being one of the most sophisticated works in filmscoring.
Second wish would be a rerecording of PETER PAN.


All of the vintage Disney scores need to be (and could be) re-recorded. There have been okay re-recordings of Disney music before, but to my knowledge none of them were complete or faithful enough to truly replace the original recordings. Disney has literal thousands of original composer manuscripts/sketches all the way back to SNOW WHITE and I don't know why they haven't done anything with them. Lost scores like PETER PAN and ALICE really deserve a second chance on CD.


Cinderella was re-recored and sounds stunning and spot on to the original orchestration other than a bit here and there. I don't think its complete though. To this day I'm bewildered whey they choose that one to re-record for CD. A bunch of pop artists sung the songs though.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2020 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Just noticed since Ive been spinning Disney soundtracks lately, Bruns basically lifted his climatic music from the end of Sleeping Beauty when the Prince was fighting the dragon and re-orchestrated it for the climatic ending of Robin Hood when Robin was chased up the tower and jumps into the water and presumably dead.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2020 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Just noticed since Ive been spinning Disney soundtracks lately, Bruns basically lifted his climatic music from the end of Sleeping Beauty when the Prince was fighting the dragon and re-orchestrated it for the climatic ending of Robin Hood when Robin was chased up the tower and jumps into the water and presumably dead.

He also uses a variant of this music in the Wizards duel scene in Sword in the Stone when Madam Mim turns into a purple dragon, though I think that may have been done as a parody of the climax of that earlier film.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2020 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   Livio Merino   (Member)

I know that it's low on the Disney most wanted list, but I'd kill for the release of Oliver Wallace's score to Darby O'Gill And The Little People!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2020 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

I know that it's low on the Disney most wanted list, but I'd kill for the release of Oliver Wallace's score to Darby O'Gill And The Little People!

I would love a release of Darby O'Gill, though I think that might be more Intrada's territory since the Legacy Collection hasn't done any of the live-action films with the exception of Mary Poppins.

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2020 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I know that it's low on the Disney most wanted list, but I'd kill for the release of Oliver Wallace's score to Darby O'Gill And The Little People!

I would love a release of Darby O'Gill, though I think that might be more Intrada's territory since the Legacy Collection hasn't done any of the live-action films with the exception of Mary Poppins.


I agree, evident by Intrada's recent release of Return From Witch Mountain.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2020 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

I know that it's low on the Disney most wanted list, but I'd kill for the release of Oliver Wallace's score to Darby O'Gill And The Little People!

I would love a release of Darby O'Gill, though I think that might be more Intrada's territory since the Legacy Collection hasn't done any of the live-action films with the exception of Mary Poppins.


I agree, evident by Intrada's recent release of Return From Witch Mountain.


Don't forget about their release of Johnny Tremain.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2020 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   Captain_Kaos   (Member)

Besides "The Jungle Book" I really would appreciate releases with music from the classic cartoons. The music alone works fine on FSM's "Tom & Jerry" and Warner Bros.' "Stalling Project". I'd really like to have some of Wallace's, Bruns', Dubin's and Smith's music, especially "Tea for two hundred". That's a funny thing! Disney did it with the "Silly Symphonies" and the cartoons could be the next step. Mickey, Donald and Co. are legends and legacies as well!

 
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