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 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 7:11 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

Any chance for a Franz Waxman Collection Volume 2, Roger?

Yes , that would be very nice. If not that, how about the very neglected musical compositions of Herbert Stothart ?


Based on Lukas’ low quantity rundowns, we know there’s enough music from Marie Antoinette to fill a whole disc without any filler, though whether a Stothart collection will actually sell is the big question.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 7:14 PM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

While we are wishing, how about whatever else survives of the original Korngold at Warner Bros. recordings? The FSM twofer of The Sea Wolf and Kings Row showed us just how good that material could still sound, and seemed to be a harbinger of more to come. Alas, nothing has followed...yet. But as I understand it that Waxman set was licensed from Warner’s/Rhino...so maybe there’s still hope.

Yavar


I second this. In addition to FSM’s Korngold set, the isolated score on Adventures of Robin Hood demonstrates that at least could be released with excellent sound that it’s surprising it never actually happened.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 7:18 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'm beyond shocked that no label has put out the original recordings (conducted by the composer) of Korngold's two most famous and popular scores -- Robin Hood and The Sea Hawk -- in definitive complete editions. Maybe his other scores wouldn't have great sales potential any more; I dunno. But those two would sell like hotcakes.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 7:58 PM   
 By:   VeronicaMars   (Member)

Don't forget that Goldsmith's The Public Eye rejected score is one of the possible titles of those three.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2021 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Oooh -- thanks for the reminder!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2021 - 6:41 AM   
 By:   dragon53   (Member)

CSISTA:

"Are Intrada cds normally sold on Amazon?

I took a quick look and didn't see many.

Yes, but not sure how normal it is. Sold by Intrada through Amazon, usually with a few dollars markup and Prime shipping. Smaller stock count, though, so it sells out on Amazon before the Intrada site."


Thanks for the info.

 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2021 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Here's a tip.

Look up the UPC for an Intrada release and then search for it on Amazon. It will bring you to the listing, and sometimes you can find some genuine bargains second hand. I have grabbed a few in recent months. Not all Intrada releases have UPCs though, like The Black Stallion which is one I'm still after.

 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2021 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Pre "Hawaii 5-O" lawsuit, Morton Stevens releases were so rare you'd think it was a sign Jesus was finally coming.

 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2021 - 8:03 PM   
 By:   VeronicaMars   (Member)

CSISTA:

"Are Intrada cds normally sold on Amazon?

I took a quick look and didn't see many.

Yes, but not sure how normal it is. Sold by Intrada through Amazon, usually with a few dollars markup and Prime shipping. Smaller stock count, though, so it sells out on Amazon before the Intrada site."


Thanks for the info.


Actually, this has been going on for a few years now. I believe it started around 3 years ago or a little before that and I've ordered from them directly through Amazon on more than one occasion during this time.

Their shipping is free but they charge sales tax and the CD's are shipped how Amazon ships them in those flimsy yellow envelopes as opposed to Intrada's card board boxes which I honestly prefer which is one of the reasons I haven't ordered through them since unless it was necessary. Also, I'd rather order from Intrada since you have their loyalty points system which you can use on any purchases on the site lowering the prices of their CD's a little more and also if there are any problems, I can contact them directly where as Amazon treats Intrada as a third party seller which is a problem which happend to me once but thankfully the situation was resolved. So I would stick to Intrada for ordering unless it's necessary for a title that has sold out on their site as a last resort.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2021 - 8:33 PM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Buck Rogers in the 25th century volume three. I’d like to see a volume tree. There are still a lot of great scores from at least the first season that haven’t been released. One of them is from the episode A Dream of Jennifer.

Probably not. Enough sales drop off with Vol 2 to preclude the ability to do a Vol. 3


I can only speak for myself of course, but I'd like to add something to that:
I have the releases for the pilot score as well as the season 1-set... love them both, and I would LOVE to get a follow-up volume featuring the unreleased stuff from season 1!

That said, I had no interest at all in the season 2 set. It's just that the music is... VERY different there, and I have to say I didn't like Broughton's approach to scoring this show at all, therefore I wasn't interested in that set.

Somehow you're answer about the sales drop imply that others might have felt the same way and the drop of sales has more to do with the music featured on Volume Two, but not neccessarily on Volume 1?...


That’s a really good point. Never thought of that. The only second season score I really like was testimony of a traitor. That’s it. I think there’s more gold in season one.

 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2021 - 8:33 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Big YES for more Folk! Intrada loves contemporary animated scores so hoping for Rock-A-Doodle.
A re-release of Toy Soldiers would be great too, missing that holy grail. Maybe they'll pick up where LLL left off and give us more Police Academy?

 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2021 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Can the OP change the thread title to "Questions for Intrada" or something more obvious?

 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2021 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   VeronicaMars   (Member)

Big YES for more Folk! Intrada loves contemporary animated scores so hoping for Rock-A-Doodle.
A re-release of Toy Soldiers would be great too, missing that holy grail. Maybe they'll pick up where LLL left off and give us more Police Academy?


A shame Varese didn't release Rock A Doodle after they announced it and cancelled it back in 1992.

The one title I can definitely see is Toy Soldiers for sure coming back since there is a lot of demand.

I wish La-La had just done the entire Police Academy scores box they had originally intended. I'd personally would love the music from PA 2 to PA 4 and Mission to Moscow myself but the problem is and this is a major problem, comedy scores sadly don't sell unless the names Williams, Bernstein or JNH appear on it.

Speaking of which, the Bernstein title I hope is National Lampoon's Animal House which is long overdue and for one of the Horner's, I truly hope it's I Love You To Death, which is a really ecclectic score by him.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2021 - 1:26 AM   
 By:   The Shadow   (Member)

Roger, Doug, George...the whole dream team of INTRADA....

I still don't see that much, to say the least, coming from Gil Melle, Fred Karlin, Billy Goldenberg, David Shire, Dave Grusin, Dominic Frontiere, Don Costa, Ernie Freeman, Leonard Rosenman, John Cacavas, Lee Holdridge, Oliver Nelson and the likes. I mean the 70ies stuff! Mainly TV series or TV movie stuff but also features, like MADIGAN, DOUBLE MAN or PINK JUNGLE.

So often Goldsmith, Williams, Bernstein, Horner releases...and often from 80ies and 90ies stuff...or 60ies...but rarely 70ies!

Nothing to complain of course...but....did we really need TAKE HER SHE'S MINE??

I am a Goldsmith completist all right, but there are tons of scores to be realeased by the above mention composers prior to an obscure and rather weak Jerry's early effort.

A third although definitive INCHON edition was not either a priority...to say the least.

Is that a matter of interest, marketability, availability of tapes, clearance of rights,....?

Why these very nice composers glories of the seventies are so under-represented on disc?

Or is it a choice to let Lalaland trying to do them within the next 20 years?

Just curious....
Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2021 - 2:16 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

I`m with you Thierry.
Would love to see the seventies covered.
Nevertheless INTRADA and all the others ..you made my days the last 20 years...So many great scores.
And I think they cover a great deal of peoples wishes .
And they need to focus on sales...so lots of nineties ..eighties I guess are sellers.

Regarding some re-releases and stuff like TAKE HER SHE´S MINE..Well yes, what weak weak score it is,but a great one if you are a completist...so..



 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2021 - 4:32 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Big YES for more Folk! Intrada loves contemporary animated scores so hoping for Rock-A-Doodle.
A re-release of Toy Soldiers would be great too, missing that holy grail. Maybe they'll pick up where LLL left off and give us more Police Academy?


I’ll take any Folk I can get but I’d love to see an expansion of THE NEVERENDING STORY II. Folk doing fantasy. The WEA album has about 33 minutes of the score and I would think there was more music in the film. Even if it’s not significantly more it would be nice to see the score widely available again. It’s fantastic.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2021 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   The Shadow   (Member)

I`m with you Thierry.
Would love to see the seventies covered.
Nevertheless INTRADA and all the others ..you made my days the last 20 years...So many great scores.
And I think they cover a great deal of peoples wishes .
And they need to focus on sales...so lots of nineties ..eighties I guess are sellers.

Regarding some re-releases and stuff like TAKE HER SHE´S MINE..Well yes, what weak weak score it is,but a great one if you are a completist...so..


INTRADA made my day since 1985 too, no question.
I support them since that very day when I bought Basil Poledouris RED DAWN LP....that was sold at the time more than 50 bucks in Europe....This would be at least 120 bucks from nowadays....This is nearly sponsoring.

So my faithfullness to them is not about to be disputed.

But now I would expect more 70ies stuff anyway....

I am 54. Have I aged that much that I would be part of a minority requesting 70ies stuff?
By the way, what's the average age of the forum members, this would be interesting to know...?

 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2021 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Amazing that you lament their lack of 70s titles while seemingly being unaware of (or just ignoring?) their other surprise Goldsmith premiere of the year *besides* Take Her, She’s Mine — The Don Is Dead! That’s loads of 70s goodness, so I agree with your initial statement (before complaining) that there’s nothing to complain about. smile

Also in only the past decade Intrada has given us more Melle than any other label, as well as great stuff like Karlin’s The Ravagers that no one else might release since FSM closed up shop....

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 3, 2021 - 9:27 AM   
 By:   The Shadow   (Member)

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 Posted:   Feb 3, 2021 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Nothing to complain of course...but....did we really need TAKE HER SHE'S MINE??

I am a Goldsmith completist all right, but there are tons of scores to be realeased by the above mention composers prior to an obscure and rather weak Jerry's early effort.

A third although definitive INCHON edition was not either a priority...to say the least.


How are these parts of your post “lobbying” for anything? How is it not complaining about what they DID choose to put out? As to your question, “did we really need TAKE HER SHE’S MINE??” The answer is that it was a completely unreleased Jerry Goldsmith score, so OF COURSE.

And another “OF COURSE” in regards to whether the most minor effort by Williams, Goldsmith, or Horner is likely to have better sales potential than literally any score by Fred Karlin or Gil Melle. As much as I like those composers, that’s the reality the labels have expressed time and time again. They know what sells from personal experience, and if releases from a certain composer have dried up, it’s probably because sales were disappointing for previous releases.

ESPECIALLY during this pandemic, labels are going to be more careful than ever to concentrate their limited time, energy, and money on titles which have the best chance of a return on investment. If they take a chance on one too many titles that lose money, the end result is that we get NO titles from them any more.

So yeah, a year ago I might’ve given you less of a hard time for your post. But these are the times we live in now and I just want the film music speciality labels to stay afloat. And while I may continue to lament the lack of Roy Webb releases, I will not criticize (and have never criticized) a label for choosing not to sink money into a Roy Webb project which is unlikely to make money.

Yavar

 
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