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 Posted:   Sep 13, 2019 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

How to Train Your Dragon 3

Legend Has It / Cliffside Playtime
Toothless: Smitten
Worst Pep Talk Ever
Night Fury Killer
Exodus!
New 'New Tail'
Furies in Love
Killer Dragons
With Love Comes a Great Waterfall
The Hidden World (feat. Jónsi)
Armada Battle
As Long as He's Safe
Once There Were Dragons
The Hidden World Suite

Total Time- 1:03:00 (Approx)

Purchased this unheard and was initially disappointed in the score. I just couldn't get into it after repeated listens. With some considerable amount of trimming I like the score a lot more. The first three cues are a slow burner then it's balls to the walls.

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2019 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

How to Train Your Dragon 3

Legend Has It / Cliffside Playtime
Toothless: Smitten
Worst Pep Talk Ever
Night Fury Killer
Exodus!
New 'New Tail'
Furies in Love
Killer Dragons
With Love Comes a Great Waterfall
The Hidden World (feat. Jónsi)
Armada Battle
As Long as He's Safe
Once There Were Dragons
The Hidden World Suite

Total Time- 1:03:00 (Approx)

Purchased this unheard and was initially disappointed in the score. I just couldn't get into it after repeated listens. With some considerable amount of trimming I like the score a lot more. The first three cues are a slow burner then it's balls to the walls.


I will try this out eventually. For some reason, Powell's animated scores all give me the feeling of having eaten way too much candy (but in the bad, adult way).

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2019 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)


I will try this out eventually. For some reason, Powell's animated scores all give me the feeling of having eaten way too much candy (but in the bad, adult way).


LOL! Good analogy. But that's what I love about his animated scores.

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2019 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Has anyone whittled STARSHIP TROOPERS deluxe?

Thanks!


I haven't even torn off the shrink wrap yet!

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2019 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Has anyone whittled STARSHIP TROOPERS deluxe?

Thanks!


I haven't even torn off the shrink wrap yet!


Yes, I recently crafted a whittled version of the deluxe Starship Troopers. The original album did include many of the major highlights so I wanted to just beef it up a little with some additional tracks. Also, I omitted the end credits for several reasons - first, the crescendo of "They Will Win" is, for me, an exhilarating end to the listening experience, a great big finish, and second, the end credits consists of cues already heard and I'm not a fan of duplicating cues during my album listen.

Starship Troopers (Expanded Album Edit):
1.Fed-Net #1 / Bug Attack On Newsman
2.Transporting
3.Carmen's Shuttle Ride
4.Undocking
5.Punishment / Asteroid Grazing
6.Call To War / Bad News From Home
7.War!!
8.Klendathu Drop
9.The Fleet Limps Home (Partially Unused)
10.Rasczak's Roughnecks
11.Tango Urilla
12.Johnny And Dizzy
13.Hopper Canyon / Mess Hall Mess
14."Bugs!!" (Version 1) (Unused)
15.Radio Shack / Whiskey Outpost Pt. 2 / Death Of Dizzy
16.Dizzy's Funeral
17.Rico's Roughnecks / Destruction Of The Rodger Young / Bug City
18.Brainbug / Cave Nuke
19.They Will Win

Total time: 65 minutes (1:05:48, according to iTunes)

 
 Posted:   Sep 13, 2019 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Has anyone whittled STARSHIP TROOPERS deluxe?

Thanks!


I haven't even torn off the shrink wrap yet!



DONT!
ITS worth more on the secondary market!


Thanks TOM!
Edit: surprise you left off the unused battle.music.?

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2019 - 3:53 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

"Generic, Action/Adventure, War Film"*
music by Bali Poledouris

16.Klendathu Drop
2. Kiss In the Park
5.Transporting
7..Carmen's Shuttle Ride
8.Undocking
10. Dear John
11. Breckinridge Killed
12 Punishment / Asteroid Grazing
13. Call To War / Bad News From Home
17. Klendathu Battle
19.The Fleet Limps Home (Partially Unused)
24.Hopper Canyon / Mess Hall Mess
23..Johnny And Dizzy

TT: 33:58

DIsc TWO
10. Klendathu Battle
3. Dizzy's Funeral
11."Bugs!!" (Version 1) (Unused)
7. End Titles

TT: 18:37

I was never a fan of the film. I felt the satirical/parodistic elements were lame.
SO, I have decontextualized my program to eliminate all the parodic elements (and short cues).
This is TWO separate programs. Not meant to be played consecutively

*{Starship Troopers (Expanded Album Edit):]

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2019 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

WAR OF THE WORLDS

Music by John Williams


15
6
4
2
5
7
8
10
11
12


10 tracks
TT: 42: 54

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2019 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   JTWfan77   (Member)

Anyone done a whittle for Remo Williams? I'm guessing it would also need some trimming / microediting. I find the oriental solo instrumentation a bit jarring.

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2019 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS
by Patrick Doyle

4
3
6
7
9
2
15
17
19
21
24

TT:30:15

Gets rid of.the boring middle section and some repetition.


 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2019 - 2:01 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Already done, Ex Lax !!
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Posted: Mar 13, 2019 - 4:03 PM
By: Kev McGann (Member)

Murder On The Orient Express - 2017 (Patrick Doyle)

1. The Wailing Wall
2. Jaffa To Stamboul
3. Arrival
5. Departure
10. The Armstrong Case
15. Geography
17. Ma Katherine
20. It Is Time
21. Justice*
22. Poirot
23. Never Forget
24. Suite (optional)

TT = 30 mins approx. (including Suite)

* Absolutely Sublime Music

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2019 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Already done, Ex Lax !!
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Posted: Mar 13, 2019 - 4:03 PM
By: Kev McGann (Member)

Murder On The Orient Express - 2017 (Patrick Doyle)

1. The Wailing Wall
2. Jaffa To Stamboul
3. Arrival
5. Departure
10. The Armstrong Case
15. Geography
17. Ma Katherine
20. It Is Time
21. Justice*
22. Poirot
23. Never Forget
24. Suite (optional)

I'll try THIS one out. Haha

TT = 30 mins approx. (including Suite)

* Absolutely Sublime Music

 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2019 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Already done, Ex Lax !!
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Posted: Mar 13, 2019 - 4:03 PM
By: Kev McGann (Member)

Murder On The Orient Express - 2017 (Patrick Doyle)

1. The Wailing Wall
2. Jaffa To Stamboul
3. Arrival
5. Departure
10. The Armstrong Case
15. Geography
17. Ma Katherine
20. It Is Time
21. Justice*
22. Poirot
23. Never Forget
24. Suite (optional)

TT = 30 mins approx. (including Suite)

* Absolutely Sublime Music


Interesting. Same running time.but pretty different program!
Didn't like the opening.of the film or the music.
From there it was excellent.

Didn't we also have the same running time / DIFFERENT cues for MR?

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2019 - 10:04 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Finally figured out a custom album edit/sequence for John Barry's HANOVER STREET, from the deluxe expanded edition from Varese Sarabande. A sumptuous love theme dominates the first half of the score while the 2nd half digs into action/suspense, so it can be a jarring, bifurcated listen in complete film sequence. My version is the "what if" 1979 LP version, not in film order, just in a mixed sequence for better listening, as per most soundtrack albums back then. See below:

Hanover Street (Custom Album Edit) - total time 45:39

1.Main Title
2.David Meets Margaret
3.Direct Hit
4.Home Life
5.Trying to Forget
6.Gestapo Headquarters
7.Bail Out Over France
8.On Hanover Street
9.Cover Blown
10.Countryside and Courtship
11.The Bombing
12.A Resourceful Man
13.Motorcycle Chase and Bridge Battle
14.Finale
15.End Credits

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2019 - 10:16 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Interesting how most of these whittled CDs result in programs between 30-40 minutes!

Maybe those 30.min. Varese CDs weren't so bad after all.

Tom's program puts to rest the crackpot notion that chronological order is cues shows " how the music develops"

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2019 - 3:32 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Aye, but at least with the complete (or fuller) score, we can edit them to suit our individual needs.
How many times, in the past, was that truncated release missing YOUR favourite pieces from the film.
Unless it's a stupendous work of art, I think most score highlights can be captured in a solid 30-45 minute programme.
I like having final editorial say though smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2019 - 5:58 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Aye, but at least with the complete (or fuller) score, we can edit them to suit our individual needs.
How many times, in the past, was that truncated release missing YOUR favourite pieces from the film.
Unless it's a stupendous work of art, I think most score highlights can be captured in a solid 30-45 minute programme.
I like having final editorial say though smile


For sure. They give ME the tools...

Goldsmith always put at least one "warm moment" cue in his action scores, or like a long dialogue track (that one from The Shadow, what the hell was that about??). Swapping out a couple and swapping in a couple makes the scores almost Varese length, but a much more enjoyable listen.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2019 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Aye, but at least with the complete (or fuller) score, we can edit them to suit our individual needs.
How many times, in the past, was that truncated release missing YOUR favourite pieces from the film.
Unless it's a stupendous work of art, I think most score highlights can be captured in a solid 30-45 minute programme.
I like having final editorial say though smile


For sure. They give ME the tools...

Goldsmith always put at least one "warm moment" cue in his action scores, or like a long dialogue track (that one from The Shadow, what the hell was that about??). Swapping out a couple and swapping in a couple makes the scores almost Varese length, but a much more enjoyable listen.


I definitely am aware of the irony every time I whittle a complete score edition down to "album length", even if it's in the 70-minute range. After decades of being a soundtrack collector and just accepting whatever the composer or the label felt was the most listenable & varied program, I've now had 15 or more years of complete scores released by FSM and others that allow me to act as album producer. I think this is probably an aspect unique to our little corner of the music, although pop fans can certainly create their own "hit parade" albums. I have found that after 35+ years of collecting and listening and having such a large collection, the shorter runtimes mean I can listen to more selections during a day.

And honestly, repetition is part of any film score, it's one of the important tenets when you're watching the movie itself to have material repeat, but I don't think the album has to adhere to this same aspect, it can be highlights - but of course "highlights" can be so subjective!

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2019 - 7:47 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Agreed! I'd like to share more of my whittled-down versions, but some of them are just embarrassing (like the one I did for The Specialist, which is just 8 tracks called "Did You Call Me?").

I keep trying to whittle down Silvestri's last two Avengers scores, but there are cool bursts in a lot of cues and I feel like I'd miss them (even though I NEVER listen to it anyway because it's just too goddamn much music).

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2019 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Agreed! I'd like to share more of my whittled-down versions, but some of them are just embarrassing (like the one I did for The Specialist, which is just 8 tracks called "Did You Call Me?").

I keep trying to whittle down Silvestri's last two Avengers scores, but there are cool bursts in a lot of cues and I feel like I'd miss them (even though I NEVER listen to it anyway because it's just too goddamn much music).


Regarding Alan Silvestri's last two Avengers scores, I find that the 70+ minute versions that were released on physical CD for both of them represents the best "whittled down" version of each! I also purchased the complete digital editions, but 2 hours is too much music. The 70 minute CD versions, that I assume was also assembled (ha!) by Silvestri himself, I find represents most of the highlights, so we didn't have to do any work. And in the Endgame CD version, a few tracks are actually several cues edited and combined that are complete and separate on the digital edition, so that helps.

 
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