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I remember many years ago stumbling on this film on cable tv, and being instantly captivated by the main title. It seems such an old-fashioned notion, now, to start a film with several minutes of credits accompanied by a thematic and fully orchestral piece of music. Those were the days. Bravo to Intrada for this important release!
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Jan 13, 2018 - 3:05 PM
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lukasz22
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Hello, Roger. I read the list of missing cues you gave on the Intrada Soundtrack forum and - are there any chances you release a complete score of Robin Hood sometime, with all those missing cues? Do you have any clue where those tapes can be or are there any chances to find them somewhere in the future? Maybe in Michael Kamen's home or studio? You could ask the person who collected the tapes from the archives - maybe he'll say more about it.
I am not Roger, but considering Intrada's track record over the past two decades, I'd say it's a safe bet that they looked everywhere they could (including the places you suggest) and came up empty.
Obviously, one can never say that something that is missing will never be found, and maybe those cues will turn up someday. (I have a friend who was involved in accidentally locating the complete session tapes for a pretty major score, which were in a box, labeled as something else, under the desk of an assistant, where they'd apparently been for years and across many assistants.) Or maybe they're just gone for good. If they do show up, Intrada (or another label) will have to decide if reissuing the score for these few additional minutes makes financial sense. Who knows what the CD market will be like in this theoretical future?
Obviously, spend your money however you want to spend it. But I have every confidence that Intrada did everything they possibly could to locate the entire score. If you choose to deny yourself this album and wait for a potential future (that will, I'd guess, likely never come) where every single note is released, that's up to you.
I know there is very little chance that they will release it complete in the future, or any label, but those 13 minutes missing, ahhh......... it's not 2 or 3 minutes missing,you know, those are damn 13 minutes of a very fine music. And that's what worries me the most. Right now I don't buy it, maybe in the very, very, very distant future. PS> I know Intrada probably did the best they could to find those tapes, there are great and solid chaps working in that label - Doug, Roger and all the rest. I have every confidence in them cause they've never failed me yet.
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I'm sure like other scores that sell out, once this sells out and somebody does find the missing minutes, a re-issue will happen.
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Stunning.
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So: about 13 minutes of missing score + 6 minutes of missing ending theme song = 20 minutes of missing music!
This new issue is quite a mess!
LLL can print 20 discs box of Star Trek Television music, Varese can issue a 8 cd box of Nightmare movies, while Intrada can't make a complete soundtrack and score edition of a Holy Grail like Robin Hood because of "partially missing" tapes and no licensing of a very old pop song... This is crazy.
Maestro Kamen would not be so glad about this new release, I think...
The very definition of a troll post. And a lazy one at that.
Definitely...he's playing you all. The Nightmare set he is referring to is missing a lot of score because the complete elements were missing. And much of the new music added were from less than stellar quality mono tracks. Robin Hood is much more complete than that Nightmare set.
Please stop feeding the trolls on this thread and soiling this great release!
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Jan 13, 2018 - 4:29 PM
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Octoberman
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So: about 13 minutes of missing score + 6 minutes of missing ending theme song = 20 minutes of missing music!
This new issue is quite a mess!
LLL can print 20 discs box of Star Trek Television music, Varese can issue a 8 cd box of Nightmare movies, while Intrada can't make a complete soundtrack and score edition of a Holy Grail like Robin Hood because of "partially missing" tapes and no licensing of a very old pop song... This is crazy.
Maestro Kamen would not be so glad about this new release, I think...
I can appreciate your passion on this issue, but one must give credit that Intrada was able to do what they did here. Many of us never thought this release was even possible.
The issue has many precedents. For as long as score albums have existed there has been countless cases where more music was discovered over time and then reissued because it was so beloved by fans.
Conversely, there have also been many cases where material has simply been lost or destroyed.
Sometimes there just isn't any more that can be found, or so it would seem at the time.
None of this is anything we don't already know.
We, the fans, vote with our wallets and that is as it should be, but we must not ignore or minimize the work that goes into presentations like this.
True, there is material on the original album that is not duplicated here, but as long as that material can still be obtained on another source, then all is well.
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I got mine in the mail today, and needless to say, it's been on endless repeat all evening. 
For all the grief the film gets for the accents, casting, etc., I absolutely adored this movie growing up. I was only 7 years old when the film came out, and Costner's Robin Hood became a hero of mine. I remember my mom even stitched together an elaborate (from what I can remember at least) version of Robin's costume from the movie (bow and arrows included) for me on Halloween.
And, of course, I loved the music. I didn't collect soundtracks at the time, so my enthusiasm was saved for every time I watched the film. And, sure enough, I was always so excited watching those opening credits.
Despite all of that, however, I strangely never did acquire the original soundtrack. So this expanded release is such a treat. I've been listening with a goofy smile on my face all night. There are scores that take me right back to being a kid, and this is definitely one of them. 
A big, huge thank you to everyone at Intrada for making this happen. You guys are awesome.
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Jan 14, 2018 - 4:51 AM
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JGouse0498
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Is it disappointing that there are 10+ minutes missing from this release? Of course. But, to be honest, I can't imagine where those minutes would be in the context of this 110 minute score. Been a long time since I've seen the movie.
Nevertheless, Intrada gave us an hour's worth of unreleased music plus nearly another half hour's worth of alternate versions for a 21-22 year old movie that--while it was a major hit back in 1991--has largely fallen off the radar and been relegated to the Blu-Ray bargain bin on Walmart.
Yes, many of us are deeply passionate about film scores, and we certainly all have our own specific tastes, preferences, and opinions regarding composers, companies, the kinds of releases we want ("C&C" vs. Williams-like album arrangements, including/not including the original release as part of a 2-disc set, set). But, when it comes right down to it, Intrada gave us a release that would never have seen the light of day if they or another similar label had taken the time, effort, and money to do it.
I received my copy on Friday, and I can absolutely say that it was truly $30 well spent! It sounds amazing (especially having the theme blasting from the stereo speakers), and it does what I personally want in an expanded release: it musically takes me through the entire film as if it were one long symphony. And, even if there are a few minutes missing, this is still IMHO "complete" in my eyes because I really believe this is as complete as possible.
It's truly a shame that this thread has become less about fellow fans and collectors sharing their excitement and experience with this long-desired release and more about splitting hairs over a few missing minutes and/or a song that can be found on the original release or a handful of widely-available Bryan Adams "greatest hits" compilations.
So I say, THANK YOU INTRADA! This release turned out to be more than I'd imagined, and it will get many many replays from this fan and customer. Keep up the fantastic work!!
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