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Volume 2, Number 1
 
Starting a new year of blogs found me reevaluating what I want the shape of my blogs to take in the new year. Last year I wrote weekly for about half the year, then the posts dwindled as I began to run out of topics I wanted to write about and then I got a bit burned out. My blogs last year were for the most part long articles on different topics I was interested in and were researched and written and re-written to polish them up as best as I could. Whether it be laziness, lack of focus or cosmic angst, this year I’m mostly going to write informally, more in the spirit of true blogging just jotting down more informal thoughts about film and film music. Perhaps my blogs may become less interesting because of this and no one will read them (maybe no one read the ones before!), but who knows. At any rate, I need to free myself up a bit in order to return to being a regular contributor again because I do really enjoy it.
 
FSM Boards 2009 Thread of the Year
 
Looking back on 2009, the first year I was continually active in participating on the boards, I wanted to pick out what I personally thought was the best thread of the year. It only took me about a half a second to come up with my choice. This year’s Silver Pony Tail Award* for Best Thread of 2009 goes tothe envelope pleasecomposer, conductor, film label exec., Bill Stromberg’s Film Music Orchestration Studies -  http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=62814&forumID=1&archive=0.
 
When thinking about all the threads throughout the year, one thing struck me, and that was that out of all the topics, perhaps only a percent or two actually discussed the music from a musical standpoint. Most threads tend to be wish lists, new release announcements, composer musings, discussions of individual scores in extra musical terms, etc. Rarely do they venture into looking at a score musically discussing elements such as compositional style, orchestration, formal structures, musical language, etc. and how this ultimately serves the film.
 
I’m musically trained having been a music major in college so I find this to be the most fascinating area to discuss and one that educates as well as it entertains. Frankly I wish there were more threads that looked at the music itself, but I can understand that the musical backgrounds of the board members ranges from very little knowledge of music to composer level understanding with most falling somewhere in between. Still, I wish there were more posts in this vein, starting with my own!
 
I have to say that there are a number of board regulars who decry the fact that the music itself is not discussed more often on the boards, yet I never saw most of them ever post in Bill’s thread so I don’t know what to make of that. Perhaps some were afraid to post fearing they weren’t at a level where they felt comfortable posting in a thread along with the posts of someone of Bill’s stature and knowledge, but the range of participants was wide and Bill responded to each as a valuable contributor. In any case, Bill created an outstanding thread in which he took his valuable time (as did his business partner John Morgan) to share his expertise and post examples of orchestrations. Granted many may not know how to read music, but orchestration was discussed verbally more often than not in the thread.
 
I learned a great deal from Bill’s posts and the posts of others about the nature and importance of orchestration in film music. I also posted some of my own examples that hopefully illustrated how orchestration helped the music shape the feel and tone of the film it supported. Orchestration and flexibility of ensemble selection is one of film music’s most important and interesting elements and it was great to discuss this at length in the thread.
 
Thanks Bill for starting this thread and continuing on with it for so long. And thanks to all who participated.
 
* The Silver Pony Tail rating system and Silver Pony Tail Awards are the property of the Scoreside Chat owner and anyone using them without the owner’s permission will me smote down by the score gods or facsimiles thereof!

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If you are so inclined, Mr. Ford, perhaps you can review my amateur article I posted entitled "7 Degrees of Goldsmith". Maybe this is the type of input you wish to see more of from participants?

If you are so inclined, Mr. Ford, perhaps you can review my amateur article I posted entitled "7 Degrees of Goldsmith". Maybe this is the type of input you wish to see more of from participants?

I'm pretty much an amateur too in that I'm not a professional musician, but rather a university trained one from long ago who didn't go into the business. In any case, I don't expect everyone to dissect a score musically in lots of threads because that's not what everyone is into and could become boring, but I do wish there was more actual musical discussion than there usually is.

I read your post and was going to reply to it by saying "nicely done", it really sums things up about Goldsmith's career pretty well. I certainly would like more of that, but I'm also looking for a more purely musical evaluation of individual scores where people go over elements of a score ranging from the particular orchestral/instrumental forces deployed, the specific modal/tonal/atonal vocabulary used and how it serves the film, the stylistic structures, individual instrumental writing that is possibly a trademark of the composer at that time, etc., and how all of these serve the music both in the film and away from it. Perhaps that's all a bit too academic sounding for some, but I just personally find it to be fascinating and hard core musically which appeals to me with my particular background.

Thank you for the positive feedback.
I understand where you are coming from,
but I do not feel adequate enough to analyze
music in such depth.
Articles such as ours may inspire other individuals
to do so, perhaps?

Please, more contributions like your post ToneRow! By the way, do you have an actual tone row that represents you? :)

Allow me a little rant:

I agree completely with you, Mark. Unfortunately, as with Tonerow, I'm not qualified to discuss music with such detailed musical terminology, but one of my main wishes of this place is to talk AESTHETICS; about films, about how music works in films or about the music in itself (expressed with more adjectives, more laymen terms). Perhaps you've noticed that I've started many such threads over the years. Unfortunately, my "mini-review" threads about certain individual films/scores rate low on the interest radar for most. Usually 0 replies and about 25 views. So I guess I'm mostly talking to myself in those. :) Then I've started some more "general" threads about certain approaches or ideas or philosophies about film music, and these used to spur interesting debates in the late 90's and early 2000's. However, these days they usually dwindle away after a few replies, so I've basically stopped posting them.

No, I find it difficult to "battle" a sentiment that is more focussed on the collector aspect of soundtracks, among other things, i.e. all the issues SURROUNDING the item itself, but I guess that's how it is. Perhaps it's a natural outgrowth of the increase in releases from a variety of different labels these last few years.

do you have an actual tone row that represents you?

Sorry to disappoint, but no I don't have one.
I'm not a composer myself, but only a consumer of music.
Composers such as Roberto Gerhard write the tone rows
that represent my aesthetics; I'll just select from amongst
them and listen! :)

What IS a tone row, anyway?

Allow me a little rant:


Perhaps as a new tactic you should simply change the subject constantly, rather than complaining about what isn't the subject. While you don't seem to like the collector emphasis (and hey, it's about as interesting as cold unbuttered toast to me), you participate in it, often with much-repeated explanations of why you'd rather be talking about someone else. If I were you I'd ignore everything, contribute something genuinely interesting on aesthetics, and see if anyone runs with it. It's bound to be more interesting than re-stating preferences to the people who read what you say, and stands a better chance of getting to your goal, which is the discussion of aesthetics. BECOME THAT DISCUSSION. Hijack collector threads with that rather than your views on collecting.

Allow me a little rant:
If I were you I'd ignore everything, contribute something genuinely interesting on aesthetics, and see if anyone runs with it. I.


Uhm, did you read what I wrote, franz? I've done that for years and still do. People simply aren't interested in it anymore, so I've kinda given up.

a tone row:

I'm not educated in music, but to put it in layman's terms we should first look at the tonal in order to get to the atonal.
An octave has 8 notes: Do Re Mi Fa So La Ti Do.
A traditional symphony would be composed in a key, such a D Major.
Thus, D Major rules - he is the king in that symphony, to which all the other notes are subservient.
Along comes people like Arnold Schoenberg in early 20th century to postulate that within an octave there exists, not 8, but 12 tones.
Schoenberg is the one most credited with developing the 12-tone system, or serialism, or dodecaphony.
A tone row, by my understanding, is a sequence of notes in which each note is sounded once and never repeated until all the other notes in that row have been heard. I think a tone row need not be exactly a 12 note sequence - it could be a multiple of 12, say a 6-note sequence, or 4 or 3. But the underlying musical philosophy is that no one "key" is in charge; each note has equal chance of speaking - no note is subservient to that D Major up above.
This is the musical "revolution" that happened about the same time as World War I.
After the death of Mahler in 1911 and the intro of "The Rite Of Spring" in 1913 by Stravinsky, the musical world was now grappling with Schoenberg's atonal works.
It is ironic that tonal or pleasant sounding music is a sort of musical monarchy with one key/ chord/tonic in charge, while the confrontational/ugly/challenging/dissonant/uncompromising 12-tone music can be viewed as a sort of musical democracy (some will say chaos) where all notes have equal say in the matter.

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