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At the time FSM released the album version of King Kong (the ‘76 one), I was massively impressed with them for doing it. I love it. (Rumour has it I'm a John Barry fan.)

Of course, as a score, it’s as badly in need of expansion as many of the old Bond albums were. But, back then, it just wasn't going to happen. No way. And someone wise once told me, “you can’t put your life on hold waiting for ‘what ifs’ and ‘maybes’.” So the album (which is a great, great album anyway) was the best we could have hoped for then and we got it.

Since then, of course, times have changed. Certain studios have been “broken”, as one person put it. (Personally, I think it’s that they were broken before.)

The thing is, wouldn’t it be nice if we could all go back and now do a proper expanded release of this, and other scores in the same boat. Ah, but. In such a limited collector's market, where's the viability in doing that? Surely, there are many other things to do which, once an album version is out, are a higher priority anyway. (Things that haven't been done at all.)

Yeah, you’re right. Forget it.

Still, wouldn’t it be a shame if scores issued as ‘album versions’ never got expanded at all, just because we didn’t wait for something we didn't know was going to happen? So, I just started wondering.

Now, I don’t know if this is possible. And I don' t speak for FSM or anyone else, okay. Just me and my warped head. Imagine if someone took two scores in this same boat and issued a single, say, 1,500 run disc containing only the unreleased cues from those two scores. (Okay, let me dream unrealistically big here. King Kong and Moonraker. Yes, I know.) It’s not ideal but it means the more passionate collector can get the additional music and organise ‘expanded’ versions on their i-Pods or whatever, without crunching the market for the already-out-there album version.

Something tells me the idea just doesn’t float. But then again, you never know. It’s just an idea.

 

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You are probably right Woolston, it may never happen. It is such a shame that greats like Barry have not had all their work saved via digital format so that it does not continue to just waste away so to speak. There are many Barry releases that need the "expanded" treatment. There are also many Barry releases that have never seen a legitimate CD release period, such as "The Deep" to only name one. I would much prefer a CD release of any of his music, but I would be "satisfied" with anything in the 256 range that was legitimate and a digital download. Barry is truly one of the greatest and all of his material deserves to see (and be heard) the light of day.

Rats. I thought this was about the James Newton Howard score... would love more music from that.

Once again, I will throw my voice and wallet at ANY chance of an expansion of KONG '76. I don't care if it is just the unreleased cues or a new album entirely. Just get us that music!

Rats. I thought this was about the James Newton Howard score... would love more music from that.

Whereas I love JNH's score, most of the unreleased cues in that movie are simply retreads or retracks of the music represented on the disc. The only real things missing are the jungle music and re-done Steiner cues (which we essentially have with the Stromberg version).

Easy to expand King Kong, like this:-

K---------I-----------N-------------G K-----------------O--------------N----------G

For some tips on how to hear some unavailable cues dialog-and-effects-free on the Region 1 original DVD give me a holler. :)

flyman_77@hotmail.com

Rats. I thought this was about the James Newton Howard score... would love more music from that.

Whereas I love JNH's score, most of the unreleased cues in that movie are simply retreads or retracks of the music represented on the disc. The only real things missing are the jungle music and re-done Steiner cues (which we essentially have with the Stromberg version).



OH.

For some tips on how to hear some unavailable cues dialog-and-effects-free on the Region 1 original DVD give me a holler. :)

flyman_77@hotmail.com


Why not just post it here?

Cheers

Many thanks for the interesting article, Stephen. Just one thing: I don't consider "King Kong" and "Moonraker" to be in the same boat. Let's face it: "Moonraker" could make quite some money if expanded. The problem is that there aren't any idealists like Lukas at EMI/MGM/EON/Danjaq (or whoever is in charge of these things currently) who would invest some of their leisure time to get this gem released. The fact that the master tapes are not lying around readily on MGM's shelves sure doesn't make things easier. I've been inquiring about this on message boards for years, but nobody could ever tell me if John Barry has ever been approached re: 'Moonraker' missing tapes. Since the movie was realeased theatrically with a multi-channel soundtrack, the producers of the so-called 'ultimate edition' DVD also didn't bother to look for it. All this is quite a shame! There's really no reason why these Bond sountracks aren't out there (save for the first three perhaps where there are really master tape issues). One would think that this would be a prestige project for a legacy as big as the Bond series.

Titles that I consider in the same boat as "King Kong" (or even in a worse) are "The Wrong Box", "Boom", "Follow Me", "The Dove" and "The Black Hole". I seriously doubt that we will ever see a proper re-issue of the album program of the first three and it's also highly doubtful that "The Black Hole" will ever make it to a "hardcopy" (although I would already be happy if a lossless download). Unfortunately, the market is really too small to make two versions of these titles available at the same time. Who knows if even the "first" edition of "King Kong" has yet amortized. Really a sad situation. Another title that comes to mind is "Born Free", although I'm unsure whether Columbia would have any additional masters for that one...

For some tips on how to hear some unavailable cues dialog-and-effects-free on the Region 1 original DVD give me a holler. :)

flyman_77@hotmail.com


I discovered this also.
Some of the cues in the rear channels sound suprisingly good. SFX and dialogue free, and in stereo. Makes me think that the masters still exist in pretty good shape. Managed to put together a pretty good expanded edition.

How would you expand something like King Kong?
Exactly the way Lalaland are going to do it. ;)

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