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Jul 22, 2014 - 5:06 AM
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Ifukube
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I recently picked up both of these Japanese AIRPORT CDs...they were apparently reissued yet again on June 11th...
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICY-76058
However, both of my CDs have the earlier 12-4-13 release date and the 6-3-14 out of print date printed on the back inserts, so this second reissue wave apparently are the same CDs from 6 months earlier.
I have a question about the audio quality of the AIRPORT 1975 CD though, that I hope someone can shed some light on for me? While the audio on the AIRPORT Japan CD sounds excellent IMO...it sounds remastered and the quality is great to listen to, the same can't be said for the AIRPORT '75 Japan CD? The audio almost sounds like it was mastered from second or third generation master-tapes...the tracks almost sound like mono to me, that's how iffy the quality is. The only exception is track 7 (which is a peppier version of the main title music), which sounds like it was remastered and is in good stereo, but the other 11 tracks sound like they might not have been remastered...it's hard to tell?
Anyway, the audio on the AIRPORT '75 Japan CD doesn't sound anywhere near as good as the audio on the AIRPORT Japan CD, so has anyone else noticed this? Would anyone know if this Airport '75 Japan CD has been remastered? If it has been, they didn't do such a great job, and if it has not been, then that might explain why the tracks sound a bit lifeless to me?
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Jul 22, 2014 - 3:30 PM
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LEONCIO
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Would not be bad a set of 6 CDs containing all the music "Airport", "Aiport 1975", "Airport 1977",
"Airport 1978, SST: Death Flight", "The Concorde, Airport 1979", and "The Concorde Affair, Airport 1980", and as a bonus cd "The High and the Mighty". As Christmas gifts would not be bad.
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Jul 23, 2014 - 2:43 AM
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Ifukube
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The second number isn't an "out of print" number. I forget what it actually is....IIRC it's either "you have to charge retail price" or "you have to charge tax", one of the two. It used to universally be two years. It has no bearing on how long the CD will stay in print though.
Actually, those second dates I posted are the out of print dates...these are supposed to be limited edition reissues...only in print for 6 months, not the usual year or two like most Japan CDs, but apparently, Universal decided to re-reissue them again on June 11th, so it's just a crazy system they got over there right now.
Yes, if I understand you, sometimes there are two different prices listed on the obi and/or back insert as well, but I was referring to the release and out of print dates, which in this case for these Y999 Universal reissues are supposed to be for 6 months, but are apparently being extended here and there depending on certain unknown factors.
Some of the Y999 James Bond soundtrack reissues are also being extended as well.
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Jul 23, 2014 - 5:32 AM
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Ifukube
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Still hoping that someone who has a copy of the AIRPORT '75 Japan CD can let me know if the audio quality has always sounded a bit soft or subdued? This new 2013 Japan reissue CD doesn't sound as good or sharp as I thought it would...just not sure why? The other AIRPORT Japan CD sounds worlds better IMO.
I've had the original Japanese CD release of '75 for ages and it's always sounded good to me, but since I haven't heard the 2013 reissue, I can't offer a comparison, so I guess I'm no help at all.
Well, that's something I guess. I have both AIRPORT 2013 Japan reissue CDs...the Airport CD sounds terrific actually, nice remastered sound, nice stereo, etc, but in comparison, the Airport '75 CD sounds more like AM radio to me, and I'm not sure why? Perhaps the '75 score was simply recorded differently or it could be the quality of the master-tapes that Universal has?
I would think that your original MCA Japan CD and the 2013 reissue would sound similar though.
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Jul 23, 2014 - 11:39 AM
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CDDA
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Anyway, the audio on the AIRPORT '75 Japan CD doesn't sound anywhere near as good as the audio on the AIRPORT Japan CD, so has anyone else noticed this? Would anyone know if this Airport '75 Japan CD has been remastered? If it has been, they didn't do such a great job, and if it has not been, then that might explain why the tracks sound a bit lifeless to me?
I have the reissue released this year and the sound quality is not bad as you described.
The trumpets are clear, the triangle sounds sharp. If the source had so much limitation in fidelity, these two examples I gave, would have diminished clarity and sound a bit muffled.
Based only in the edition I have, the loudness is high and this make the recording age noticeable.
I heard the LP and the difference is subtle. I think the way it was mixed/recorded in 1975 that make it not sound good as Airport 1970.
Maybe the track 7 sound better because the pop arrangement part was recorded separately, the orchestral part on that track sounds the same as the other tracks do.
Probably the master for the japanese release is a few generations away from the original but still sound good or better than other soundtracks around the same recording period released on CD.
I doubt they used another master for the 2013/2014 reissues than the one for the release in 1995, even the liner notes are from that year.
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Jul 23, 2014 - 2:22 PM
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Ifukube
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Anyway, the audio on the AIRPORT '75 Japan CD doesn't sound anywhere near as good as the audio on the AIRPORT Japan CD, so has anyone else noticed this? Would anyone know if this Airport '75 Japan CD has been remastered? If it has been, they didn't do such a great job, and if it has not been, then that might explain why the tracks sound a bit lifeless to me?
I have the reissue released this year and the sound quality is not bad as you described.
The trumpets are clear, the triangle sounds sharp. If the source had so much limitation in fidelity, these two examples I gave, would have diminished clarity and sound a bit muffled.
Based only in the edition I have, the loudness is high and this make the recording age noticeable.
I heard the LP and the difference is subtle. I think the way it was mixed/recorded in 1975 that make it not sound good as Airport 1970.
Maybe the track 7 sound better because the pop arrangement part was recorded separately, the orchestral part on that track sounds the same as the other tracks do.
Probably the master for the japanese release is a few generations away from the original but still sound good or better than other soundtracks around the same recording period released on CD.
I doubt they used another master for the 2013/2014 reissues than the one for the release in 1995, even the liner notes are from that year.
Well, the Airport '75 reissue doesn't sound horrible of course, it is still decent and I love the music, but you did confirm a few of my observations though. Yes, Track 7, the "pop" arrangement does sound much better than the other 11 tracks and overall, the entire score doesn't sound as good as the Airport 1970 soundtrack CD, which apparently was recorded much better.
It's hard for me to describe actually, but basically, as you also suggested the Airport '75 CD just sounds like the master-tapes are a few generations away...that's the best I can say. I was hoping for rich sound, like on Airport '70, but unfortunately, that is not the case. I still like the '75 CD a lot though...nice to have it!
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Airport is a recording done for LP and Airport '75 is the OST. I think that is the simple explanation why one sounds better than the other. That recording of Airport has always sounded really good.
I somehow stumbled across Airport '75 on Spotify the other day and listened to it. My granddad had the film on VHS and I always enjoyed watching it as a kid. The score is one of the first I remember noticing. The CD had been on my wish list since the first issue came and went over a decade ago, but I finally bought a copy last week.
It sounds like a film score from the mid 1970s... The CD has circle C and P 1995, plus given that this is a bargain bin release, I would not be surprised to learn that this is the exact master they used for the first CD. I wouldn't use it as a disc to demo my sound system, but I think it sounds fine. It's got a three channel stereo feel to it with fidelity that is a bit limited and dull.
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