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 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

OK, I know I'm just stirring the shit here, but.... here's to stirring the shit!

Ridley Scott (AKA, that great modern filmmaker) recently gave an interview with Empire magazine and said that there's a script for PROMETHEUS 2 and.... well, that's about all he said about that. He's got two "huge" pictures lined up on his schedule, and the speculation is that if he is indeed going to be the director of PROMETHEUS 2, it wouldn't happen until 2016 or even more likely 2017.

I think many here might remember that I'm no fan of PROMETHEUS, to put it lighty, and that I'm no fan of Ridley Scott in general, though I do like a few of his movies, so I still say... THERE WILL BE NO SEQUEL TO PROMETHEUS!

Why? That a script has been written means nothing. Lots of scripts are written, but very few ever go into production. In fact, a script going into production is like any one of us winning the lottery -- a many millions to one shot. Ridley Scott has an interest in keeping the prospect of a PROMETHEUS 2 alive, because, just like a politician with his electoral base, Scott has his fan base. They both pander to their base. There's many, many ALIEN geeks out there that just can't get enough of all things ALIEN. More power to them, I couldn't care less, but even those that long for this sequel to come into being concede that it's most likely Scott will only executive produce and hand the directing duties to someone else. That's a possibility, but let me know when there's an announcement of an actual production start. That's when I'll start to believe it.

Finally, here's the story at Collider:

http://collider.com/ridley-scott-prometheus-2-blade-runner-2-exodus-update/

I insert this link because I love this line from it:

"Ridley Scott is currently doing press rounds for The Counselor. The movie was a bit of a disappointment and tanked at the box office, but that’s okay because the director never slows down."

That's okay because the director never slows down?!!!! What kind of an idiot, sickening fan-boy statement is that? That's like me saying, "My last shit was a real stinker, but that's okay because my bowel movements never slow down."


Alright, I'm done. Now for the attacks......

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

On what possible measurement did Prometheus "tank" at the box office?

Bring on the sequel....

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm really looking forward to this.

Unlike the topic starter, I'm a HUGE fan of Ridley Scott and I thought PROMETHEUS was the BEST film last year -- and that says a lot, since I saw a lot of films from both Hollywood and the arthouse scene.

So yeah -- BRING IT ON!

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

On what possible measurement did Prometheus "tank" at the box office?

Bring on the sequel....


The Counselor tanked. Nothing in Rory's post stated that Prometheus tanked.

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

I'm lukewarm on Ridley Scott, but I liked Prometheus quite a bit. I'll gladly see the sequel.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Umm well aside from being a post , yes just to stir shit razz .... this is on the wrong board. Needs to be in the non film score board.

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

Other Scott films have tanked, but enough do well that he can keep on going - a few "tanks" in a row, and that can change....

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

On what possible measurement did Prometheus "tank" at the box office?

Bring on the sequel....


I wrote the above quickly (because I had to run out for something) and I forgot to add why I think there won't be a sequel.

PROMETHEUS did not "tank" at the box office, in fact it did very well -- but so do a lot of lousy movies. PROMETHEUS did tank with the critics, the majority of critics. I think it also tanked with the majority of film goers. (No, I haven't checked its rating at Rotten Tomatoes.) Just because a movie does very well at the box office doesn't mean that everyone walked out happy about what they saw. There was a lot of studio build up for PROMETHEUS and a lot of fan-boy excitement about it, but I contend that the film disappointed more than it pleased most people. In a very short time, at least by 2016 or 2017, PROMETHEUS will be a distant memory, a movie some might catch on cable or satellite or notice the box on the video shelf with a nice layer of dust on it. I notice now at my local video store that most copies of PROMETHEUS are gone -- that's when I'm bothering to notice at all, of course. I think it's fading away fast and I think the executives at Fox are probably forgetting about it pretty quickly too, though I seriously would never underestimate their taste and crassness.

As box office, PROMETHEUS may have been boffo (and everyone does know that Fox was still disappointed with its performance, right? You do know that?), but as art -- you know, that thing that makes movies really important as apposed to how well they sell -- as art... PROMETHEUS was a turd.

So, again, I say {i}THERE WILL BE NO SEQUEL.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 9:43 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Well, Mr. Nostradamus, let's just wait and see what happens, shall we?

I think there will be a sequel -- and the reports seem to confirm so -- and I couldn't be happier. Although I thought the first film was fantastic, there is always room for improvement.

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I'd see Prometheus 2 and I sincerely hope it gets made.

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Well, Mr. Nostradamus, let's just wait and see what happens, shall we?

I think there will be a sequel -- and the reports seem to confirm so -- and I couldn't be happier. Although I thought the first film was fantastic, there is always room for improvement.


I don't think the reports confirm anything but that the Ridley Scott/Alien franchise fanbase is being jerked.

If I'm wrong I'll be the first to say so, but it's going to be a long wait. As I said before, let me know when Fox announces a production date.

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

PROMETHEUS did tank with the critics, the majority of critics. I think it also tanked with the majority of film goers. (No, I haven't checked its rating at Rotten Tomatoes.)

Rotten Tomatoes: 74% fresh (198 positive reviews, 71 negative reviews) - audience 69%

IMDB: average user rating 7.1/10

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   AndyDursin   (Member)

Scott usually keeps his budgets modest, especially in relation to how expensive most Hollywood films run. It's why a PROMETHEUS sequel may happen. Besides, how many R rated sci-fi/horror films have done better at the box-office? People seem to have bizarre recollections of how much money the ALIEN series has actually generated. Even ALIENS, while obviously a success, finished 7th among all releases in 1986.

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

RoryK:

And what precisely does this have to do with soundtracks? Think you should have posted this among the NON-soundtracks, where it would be quite welcome. As for your "... as art... PROMETHEUS was a turd," I happen to have enjoyed the film and bought it on Blu-ray and some of the soundtrack cues online, as well as the big picture book about the making of it, and find it hard NOT to watch it when I come across it on HD cable, plus I wrote what I personally thought was an interesting outline for a sequel, although it was essentially ignored. But, forgive me, this really was posted on the wrong board.

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   gone   (Member)

PROMETHEUS 2 < outstanding, very glad to read that... I hope it comes true!

I consider the anti-Prometheus furor to be rather ridiculous. There was an incredible amount of interesting story packed into 2 hours, and the visuals were spectacular. It is often the nature of movies to bend 'rules' in order to make things fit into such a tight time constraint (those 2 hrs).

I don't recall another relatively recent sci-fi film that comes anywhere close to what Prometheus achieved. Bring on 2!!!

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

RoryK:

And what precisely does this have to do with soundtracks? Think you should have posted this among the NON-soundtracks, where it would be quite welcome. As for your "... as art... PROMETHEUS was a turd," I happen to have enjoyed the film and bought it on Blu-ray and some of the soundtrack cues online, and find it hard NOT to watch it when I come across it on HD cable, plus I wrote what I personally thought was an interesting outline for a sequel, although it was essentially ignored. But, forgive me, this really was posted on the wrong site.


Oh, please forgive me for posting it on the wrong side. How terribly stupid of me. I honestly didn't -- and still don't -- see what difference it makes, especially since all you have to do is ignore it (Right, Sheetmusicman?).

As for you enjoying PROMETHEUS.... I'm not attacking anyone for liking the movie. Let's just get that straight. If you liked it, wonderful! We're each entitled to our own tastes -- and to our own opinions. I have given this movie a fair shake (for me, anyway). I saw it in the theatre and I tried watching it again on HBO, but gave up after 40 minutes because I was sooooo bored by it. I just don't see what's good about this movie -- BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M POSTING FOR.

I'm posting -- and since movies usually have scores, then it's kind of related to the subject of this board -- on what I see as the continual idiocy of most everyone here and elsewhere wishing for, getting excited about, and even demanding sequels! Sequels! Sequels! Sequels! It's retarded.

Oh, and as to the score.... I'm hard pressed to recall any of it. It was kind of like elevator music; I knew it was there, but otherwise it made little impression -- except when it quoted Goldsmith. THAT I NOTICED! In fact, I've have probably liked the movie if Scott had only done what he first did with ALIEN years ago, just temp track the entire thing, only in this case with Fox Goldsmith scores, especially PLANET OF THE APES.

There, I just related this thread to film music. Problem solved!

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   BackToTheFutureFan   (Member)

Feed me more! Prometheus wasn't a very good movie, but I want to hear more of this story. Hopefully we can get a better script.

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

No way I'm going to accept that the dead Space Jockey seen in ALIEN is a suit worn by a human. No freaking way.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I thought Prometheus was dire, & I'm no fan of Scott. The only two films of his I like are, Alien & A Good Year. If he wants to make another one, fine, as long as I don't have to see it...& I don't!

 
 Posted:   Oct 29, 2013 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I'm really looking forward to this.

PROMETHEUS was the BEST film last year -....

!

LOL!
Thor , stop it- you're killing me! {slaps knees in hysterics]
bruce
smile

 
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