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 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Mentioned this elsewhere but in a thread many won't look at, so pardon the new thread but I was surprised to see that David Lynch's epic Dune has already received the 3D treatment on the qt....here -> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dune-Real-3D-Blu_Ray-Cinema/dp/B00F7NFF9Q/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1382178988&sr=1-1&keywords=dune+3d .

Has anyone seen this? Any good? I watched it (for probably the three-thousandth time) the other night and it struck me that it would make a good 3D experience...was surprised to find this 3D Blu already out there....but I was also surprised to find The Running Man also converted and the 3D was hopeless, so I'm not getting my hopes up.

Anyone seen? Any good - at all?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 6:08 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

The reviews on the UK amazon are not that kind. Besides this is the bastardized TV cut.

"Just to clarify this is a cheaply produced extended version based on the original US TV version. It is NOT the restored extended cut by the director that everyone is waiting for. This version is sadly not (yet) in existence"

I am sure that the 3d is a cheap post conversion.


 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

The reviews on the UK amazon are not that kind. Besides this is the bastardized TV cut.

"Just to clarify this is a cheaply produced extended version based on the original US TV version. It is NOT the restored extended cut by the director that everyone is waiting for. This version is sadly not (yet) in existence"

I am sure that the 3d is a cheap post conversion.


I'm ignoring the reviews, since it seems whatever cut they apply to is the wrong one...it appears that if you buy one cut of the Blu, you are a "verified purchase" of all of them"...I just want to know if the 3D is any good before I splash out smile

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Yeah, I cannot stand how Amazon posts any review that is written for Dune to all the versions of Dune, you have to hope the writer specifically says what copy they are reviewing. It is really not a good comment system on Amazon, but they have been complained at to no avail.


This review from another site is not all that kind to the transfer, though he likes the film itself.
The 3d sounds questionable at best by this reading. This review site is pretty trustworthy.



http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/7484/dune-extended_de.html

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I can tell you how good it is.

The DVD case lists "Patrick Steward".

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

This review from another site is not all that kind to the transfer, though he likes the film itself.
The 3d sounds questionable at best by this reading. This review site is pretty trustworthy.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/7484/dune-extended_de.html


...and that's the review that I wanted to see but couldn't find....thanks, I'll save my money smile

Patrick Steward....lol....

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

It's a cheap german release so beware; there seem to be a lot of cult titles (Dawn of the Dead, The Running Man, ... ) that got so called 3D releases in Germany but are probably the worst examples of 3D. People will still buy them I imagine because they're interested to see the movies they like in 3D but from most reviews I've read the 3D is hardly noticeable. There are german blu-ray labels that are borderline bootleg and the quality and packaging shows, there are a lot of 'mediabook' blu-ray releases of which I question the legality.

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

It's a cheap german release so beware; there seem to be a lot of cult titles (Dawn of the Dead, The Running Man, ... ) that got so called 3D releases in Germany but are probably the worst examples of 3D. People will still buy them I imagine because they're interested to see the movies they like in 3D but from most reviews I've read the 3D is hardly noticeable. There are german blu-ray labels that are borderline bootleg and the quality and packaging shows, there are a lot of 'mediabook' blu-ray releases of which I question the legality.

Indeed...I previously mentioned the Running Man release which I snapped up and truly regret...3D is noticeable in maybe 5-10% of the movie, and even then there's very little depth...it's not worth it.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Whether the conversion is any good or not, I would welcome the opportunity to see it on the big screen again. Assuming it would be released as such, of course.

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Whether the conversion is any good or not, I would welcome the opportunity to see it on the big screen again. Assuming it would be released as such, of course.

Same here...though the more time goes by the more this movie seems to get pushed to the back of the class...still hoping though for the Director's Cut treatment...one day...maybe...

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I actually like Lynch's Dune purely because of the scope and visual style he brought to it and much like for instance Lifeforce, these are both imaginative sci-fi movies that no matter what flaws they have, still intrigue me and present a compelling universe smile

So my question for the Dune fans, which is currently the longest version of Dune with high definition quality? Would really like to get a blu-ray of this but there seem to be many choices.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

...still hoping though for the Director's Cut treatment...one day...maybe...


Oh man, me too.

Over the years I've read ALL the blather about Lynch's feelings about the movie and I'm STILL mystified as to why. Sometimes I think he just paid too much attention to what the critics said and it created a sort of retroactive antagonism inside him which then projected itself backward, poisoning all of his memories.

The "making of" book by Ed Naha never contained any sort of details that he had a miserable experience. Naturally, I take such books with a huge gain of salt, but if he really regarded the film as negatively as he soon did, one would think the book would offer some tiny bit of evidence. Even Herbert was quoted as saying, "they're making the real DUNE".

I want Lynch to stop feeling regret over the movie and try to see it in a different light... to remember some of the magic of the story and how it attracted him to it in the first place. Then the stage would be set for his cut. That would really be something.

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 5:39 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I want Lynch to stop feeling regret over the movie and try to see it in a different light... to remember some of the magic of the story and how it attracted him to it in the first place. Then the stage would be set for his cut. That would really be something.

Indeed...not to mention the legion of fans the film has...30th Anniversary next year...wonder if anything is being planned...

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2013 - 6:08 PM   
 By:   Warunsun   (Member)

I am a big fan of Dune in all its forms and incarnations. I can't imagine any big event planned for it. Last I heard Paramount Pictures actually dropped their plans for a new movie after paying for the right to make one.

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2013 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I am a big fan of Dune in all its forms and incarnations. I can't imagine any big event planned for it. Last I heard Paramount Pictures actually dropped their plans for a new movie after paying for the right to make one.

Can't say I'm sorry...the '84 film is just fine, and the 2000 Miniseries is wonderful (as is it's sequel - Children of Dune aka Dune Apocalypse - highly recommended if you haven't caught it yet)....would be hard to bring anything new to the mix...I want to see the rest of the story, dammit!!!

 
 Posted:   Jan 16, 2014 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   oyarsa   (Member)

Listening to the score now, I am still amazed about how much I like this. One of my favourites.
Like others, I would love a complete score and a Director's Cut, completely restored for blu-ray.
One can dream...

Still need to watch the TV series though.

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Still need to watch the TV series though.

Do yourself a big favour and seek it out...along with the sequel...sure, there will always be quibbles about how it has been adapted, and some budgetary constraints are...rather obvious (notwithstanding some excellent visual effects)....but it is event TV at it's best....though as with the movie, it does help if you have a passing familiarity with the books.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 4:29 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)


Over the years I've read ALL the blather about Lynch's feelings about the movie and I'm STILL mystified as to why. Sometimes I think he just paid too much attention to what the critics said and it created a sort of retroactive antagonism inside him which then projected itself backward, poisoning all of his memories.



October

It was taken away from Lynch and recut, so he had his name removed from that recut longer version where they put footage back in and added the prologue with Virginia Madsen. You can see where it says Director - Alan Smithee, that is a often used alias of directors who disown the film.

Apparently the experience scarred him for life with regards to this film. Beyond that it was a very hard shoot, and as we all know, it was a critical and commerical failure. So I kind of understand his feelings about it, I really do not think we will see anything like a Director approved bluray of Dune.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2014 - 12:37 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

October
It was taken away from Lynch and recut, so he had his name removed from that recut longer version where they put footage back in and added the prologue with Virginia Madsen. You can see where it says Director - Alan Smithee, that is a often used alias of directors who disown the film.
Apparently the experience scarred him for life with regards to this film. Beyond that it was a very hard shoot, and as we all know, it was a critical and commerical failure. So I kind of understand his feelings about it, I really do not think we will see anything like a Director approved bluray of Dune.



I was referring to the period just after the films theatrical release, long before an extended TV cut was ever planned. Even then Lynch was already being "taught" by the media to disown it.

Why an intelligent and gifted man like him would ever give a rat's ass for what media bozos thought of his movie is just baffling.
Just 2 days ago I sat through the film for the umpteenth time and I still think it's an excellent telling of the story and, apart from the book itself, the best version of it.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 19, 2014 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Mostly I agree, but they did not really know where they were going with Sting and the fatman. It just got a bit off the rails with those scenes. There were some moments of patchy effects too. Other than that, it is an interesting film for sure, not run of the mill.

 
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