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The title is slightly misleading , the UK version due out soon is a special edition but with no isolated score . Twilight time release is a region free release.....sorry to be pedantic but just setting the recoed straight...
Not pedantic at all.
However The version I just watched is indeed the upcoming UK Blu Ray release from Arrow, and I can confirm that it has an isolated score. Not sure if this feature is listed on Amazon etc but it's mentioned on the press release Arrow sent me and is on the disc itself.
I haven't seen the Twilight Time edition so cant comment on how the PQ compares.
So far for all the crap I've read on various boards everyone is jumping to the conclusion that because it got a nice review from some site that it's better than the Twilight Time release - only the site that reviewed it hasn't seen the TT release and made no comparison at all. But people just make the leap. What I can tell you is that their press release is very disingenuous - they state that this is a restoration off the camera negative - while it may be off a DUPE negative, there is no way Fox would send the camera negative out of the country EVER, and since it resides here and since if they HAD done a new scan for Arrow that TT would have had it, too, we'll just have to see what this looks like. But the usual suspects are dancing in glee even though no one has actually made a comparison. I'll have the Arrow shortly and believe me, I will be doing so.
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I'll be looking forward to what you think of it, Bruce. I'm less than thrilled with TT's release.
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Oct 12, 2013 - 9:14 AM
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lyris1
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Hi haineshisway,
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So far for all the crap I've read on various boards everyone is jumping to the conclusion that because it got a nice review from some site that it's better than the Twilight Time release - only the site that reviewed it hasn't seen the TT release and made no comparison at all. But people just make the leap. What I can tell you is that their press release is very disingenuous - they state that this is a restoration off the camera negative - while it may be off a DUPE negative, there is no way Fox would send the camera negative out of the country EVER, and since it resides here and since if they HAD done a new scan for Arrow that TT would have had it, too, we'll just have to see what this looks like. But the usual suspects are dancing in glee even though no one has actually made a comparison. I'll have the Arrow shortly and believe me, I will be doing so.
To address some of your points:
The restoration IS from the original camera negative, not a dupe, so there is nothing disingenuous about the press release. As you say, studios rarely let the negative travel a long distance. For that reason, the scan was done at Deluxe in California and the digital files sent to London for restoration.
Other studios would not necessarily be given access to the new scan. I'm not sure what the exact details are in this case, but I'd imagine if Label X puts up the money for a new scan and cleanup to be done, then they can have exclusivity, at least for a while. That's purely my speculation though. I'm not even sure the new scan had even been started when the previous releases were out.
The new scan used on the Arrow BD is technically superior to the old telecine transfer utilised by previous releases, which is simply down to the technology available today, rather than a failing on the part of whoever produced the old version. The Arriscan is a very, very high quality CMOS-based pin-registered film scanner which offers superior resolution and signal-to-noise performance over the older CRT-based telecines used in the past.
Of course, you'll be able to judge all this for yourself soon.
**Disclosure: I did the video encoding (not the scan+restoration) for the new Arrow BD and have seen both versions.**
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I'm as interested as anyone to see the Arrow. Welcome to the fellow who did the encode and who joined the board to respond - very nice to hear.
I felt that that Twilight Time issue looked like The Fury looked in theaters - those were, of course, release prints and it never really looked good and I saw the film many times back then. So, this will be interesting to see.
You can liken it to a soundtrack being released and people thinking that's kind of the definitive or best possible release. Until someone goes back to an even earlier generation source and cleans it up even more for more optimal sound - it happens all the time, as people here well know.
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Amazon.UK suggests that the Arrow edition is Region B/2 locked. Can anyone confirm that this is indeed the case?
The Arrow website says region B, so I guess it's region B only. Most of their releases are also region B only.
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