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 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Tarantino is a real character himself, but I think he might be on to something here.
Usually the villain or the lady are the most interesting parts of any Batman movie.

http://variety.com/2013/film/news/quentin-tarantino-batman-is-not-a-very-interesting-character-1200712931/#article-comments

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   The Projectionist   (Member)

Batman IS a very interesting character, but he is highly misrepresented in the movies. He's a detective first, then an action hero when necessary. The movies have always skipped over the former, removing an essential element to the character of Batman.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   BillCarson   (Member)

Thats funny coz Batman says Tarantino isnt very interesting.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 4:17 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

I don't really care for Batman or what Tarantino says.

Okay I gotta go not buy a watermelon.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   Storyteller   (Member)

Batman IS a very interesting character, but he is highly misrepresented in the movies. He's a detective first, then an action hero when necessary. The movies have always skipped over the former, removing an essential element to the character of Batman.


Nailed it in one. We haven't seen the real Batman on the screen yet. "Batman Begins" is the closest, but then the next two films strayed away from him yet again.

Someday I will get the chance to tell my Batman story and all this will change. big grin

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2013 - 5:28 PM   
 By:   Olivier   (Member)

Batman IS a very interesting character, but he is highly misrepresented in the movies. He's a detective first, then an action hero when necessary. The movies have always skipped over the former, removing an essential element to the character of Batman.

Absolutely; I have the feeling the comics most often stray from this basic principle as well-- there may be a little mystery, but not a truly puzzling one.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2013 - 3:38 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

We haven't seen the real Batman on the screen yet.

Mask Of The Phantasm is a character study of Batman and his motivations.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2013 - 4:27 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Batman IS a very interesting character, but he is highly misrepresented in the movies. He's a detective first, then an action hero when necessary. The movies have always skipped over the former, removing an essential element to the character of Batman.

Well luckily the overwhelming majority of the masses who flock to watch super-hero movies are a different crowd than those who actually read the comic books so the former will never know the difference.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2013 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

He knows not what he talks about...

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2013 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Storyteller   (Member)

We haven't seen the real Batman on the screen yet.

Mask Of The Phantasm is a character study of Batman and his motivations.



It's the closest to be sure, but I was referring to the live action films.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2013 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   random guy   (Member)

huge Tarantino fan but I have to disagree with him there. I do agree with you lot that the lack of his detective skills in the live action films has being disappointing. he's suppose to be the world's greatest detective after all

would be nice to see some variation of him as Matches Malone in a live action movie. going into some shady bar to investigate a tip or something. might be too late now though because of the Downey version of Sherlock Holmes

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2013 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   Olivier   (Member)

Now that we have had good "realistic" Batman movies, I'd love to have a more comic booky approach; not too comic booky, but more like Burton's Batman movies, ie, set in comic book universe, with its own style and completely made up settings; and of course, I'd love to have a true mystery in it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2013 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)



"Tell me about it. Why'dya think I gave him rubber Bat-nipples?"

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2013 - 9:14 PM   
 By:   Clark Wayne   (Member)

Tarantino is a talentless hack. I long ago gave up on his films as a modern day version of 'The Emperor's New Clothes'.

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2013 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

Tarantino is a talentless hack. I long ago gave up on his films as a modern day version of 'The Emperor's New Clothes'.

I couldn't agree more. Reading that Tarantino thinks Batman is not very interesting makes me want to watch a Batman film...

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2013 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Tarantino is a talentless hack. I long ago gave up on his films as a modern day version of 'The Emperor's New Clothes'.

Whilst I wouldn't quite go that far, I do think he. is hugely over-rated both as a writer and as a director.

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2013 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   Storyteller   (Member)

Tarantino is a talentless hack. I long ago gave up on his films as a modern day version of 'The Emperor's New Clothes'.

Whilst I wouldn't quite go that far, I do think he. is hugely over-rated both as a writer and as a director.



I agree with this. He does have a knack for some good dialogue, but then it starts to sound the same movie after movie. So it's more of a one trick pony sort of thing.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2013 - 7:05 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

While I can't defend Batman, which I got tired of back in 1967, and feel it's just about been milked to death in the modern era, I'll tell you what I think is really not very interesting and that's repeated viewings of Tarantino movies. After just a couple viewings of any Tarantino picture, the shallowness starts to reveal itself. Siskel and Ebert pegged this guy as one note way back when. Nothing's changed. He's how old now and he still makes the same movie he did twenty years ago?

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 Posted:   Oct 14, 2013 - 7:24 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Tarantino is a talentless hack. I long ago gave up on his films as a modern day version of 'The Emperor's New Clothes'.

Whilst I wouldn't quite go that far, I do think he. is hugely over-rated both as a writer and as a director.



I agree with this. He does have a knack for some good dialogue, but then it starts to sound the same movie after movie. So it's more of a one trick pony sort of thing.




For me, QT hasn't done anything interesting since Jackie Brown. His best work.

Not that the Nolan-Batman films, or any Bats films so far have been brilliant...

Like someone said above... Batman is billed as the world's greatest detective...so lets see that onscreen. Id watch a good adaptation of Hush or The Long Halloween.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2013 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I'm no expert, but isn't the original 'Batman' a sort of tortured genius who was traumatised by his parents' assassination in front of him, and whose intent was to incarnate the darkest fears of the criminal? Isn't it an ego/shadow thing that US comic books play on to illuminate the adolescent's identity crises, like Spidey and Peter Parker?

As such, there's plenty of scope for genuine development in the model. Not that it's ever been exploited properly. To take it back to period might be an idea?

Didn't the original comic-book franchise strip back all the silliness ('Robin', the bat-cave etc.), somewhere in the late '60s and return him to his Gothic roots? At one point, didn't Robin go to college, and Batman travel the world? And even more so later?

I haven't seen more than two of these movies, but it would seem, as ever, that the 'frnachise exploiters' have already added more and more anal-retent trappings and maguffin nonsense once more, and he needs streamlined back to health again.

I've no vested interest, 'just sayin'.

 
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