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 Posted:   Oct 4, 2013 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

The newest Dream Theater album came out last week and came with a 5.1 DVD-A of the album if you bought the $13 special edition. Not only is the separation fantastic on the 5.1 DVD-A but also the 5.1 mix is not horribly compressed like the CD. Though the CD sounds really good considering the compression, the 5.1 DVD sounds fantastic.

I wanted to go even further though and suggest that I think that 5.1 DVD-A should be included in most major releases. I think it would help increase CD sales and give people more of a reason to consider music an experience like it used to be.

On the other hand, if they are able to release the album without insane compression on the 24 bit and DVD-A versions, why can't they also release the CD to sound that way as well?

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2013 - 10:04 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Plus it might also convince the growing number of consumers who only buy music for download to break down and buy the real deal, which I'll probably always prefer over downloads. Plus I don't think you can download 5.1 anyway (or am I wrong?), and multi-channel is almost always better than simple 2.0 stereo.

 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2013 - 11:15 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Plus I don't think you can download 5.1 anyway (or am I wrong?), and multi-channel is almost always better than simple 2.0 stereo.

Well you could, but the files would be huge. I don't know if the 5.1 DVD-A is a single or double layer DVD, but at minimum that is 4.5 gigs, so most people wouldn't bother. Much easier to buy it.

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2013 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Actually I meant it in terms of buying downloads of 5.1 music through, say, iTunes.

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2013 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Actually I meant it in terms of buying downloads of 5.1 music through, say, iTunes.

I think some CDs in the past have had 5.1 downloads for certain things if you bought the CD but that's a lot of server space still. I seem to remember some Harry Potter CD having a 5.1 option but at the time it seemed overkill.

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2013 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Again, I was thinking in terms of 5.1 not being available for download.

I own several compact discs that have surround audio. One that stands out is THE BIG PICTURE with Erich Kunzel doing great covers of main themes from films like Last of the Mohicans, Gettysburg, Dragonheart, Executive Decision, and more (but it turned out to be in dts, ergo the great effectiveness of it). I was most impressed with a cue of barnyard animals, with each species exploding from the 5 separate channels and heavy on the the bass for the subwoofer, which was thunderous for that and other special effects on the disc. I bought a copy for a friend, but didn't realize that that copy wasn't in dts surround, and had to buy it again. Over the years, I got the same recording on standard CD, surround CD, dts surround CD, DVD-A, and SACD -- so I sort of ODd on it! But it's still great for showing off a fabulous surround system!

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2013 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Yeah but I'm not talking about surround sound coded into CDs. That is usually just decent. I have a few of those but I never really liked the separation.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2013 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Re: "Yeah but I'm not talking about surround sound coded into CDs. That is usually just decent. I have a few of those but I never really liked the separation."

You're right, of course -- it's the true 5.1 on SACD and DVD-A and even dts CDs that can knock our socks off. So many formats, so little time!

 
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