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 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 12:13 AM   
 By:   moviesound   (Member)

Quincy Jones is a composer, which has compose a lot of good scores, which never are released official.
How long have we wait of MAKENNA'S GOLD or CACTUS FLOWER?
Please release it

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 2:37 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Quincy Jones is a composer, which has compose a lot of good scores, which never are released official.
How long have we wait of MAKENNA'S GOLD or CACTUS FLOWER?
Please release it


McKenna's Gold is probably one of the few Quincy Jones scores that the specialist labels would be interested in. Being a late 60s Columbia movie, the score tapes may well be lost.

I agree that it's frustrating that so few Q scores have had CD releases. Sadly the FSM release of 'The Split' has been unable to sell it's 1500 copies since it's release, 4 years ago.

There is interest from some in 'The Anderson Tapes' but again there are doubts about the existance of elements.

'The Getaway' is another one where tapes seem to be missing.

Not an encoraging landscape for fans of Q's film scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 2:46 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

It may be easier to find the album tracks for scores that have previously had LP releases, but no label seems interested in doing that either--maybe because Kritzerland has yet to sell out its December 2011, 1000-copy run of Jones' ENTER LAUGHING (even with the inclusion of Neal Hefti's SYNANON).

Quincy Jones LPs Not On CD

Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice [Bell]
Cactus Flower [Bell]
For Love of Ivy [ABC]
The Hot Rock [Prophesy]
In Cold Blood [Colgems]
John and Mary (includes various pop) [A&M]
The Lost Man [Universal City]
MacKenna’s Gold [Tsunami only] [RCA]
Mirage [Mercury]
Sanford and Son [TV] (includes dialogue) [RCA]
The Slender Thread [Mercury]

These are the scores that have had no release at all:

Unreleased Quincy Jones Feature Film Scores

Banning – 1967 – Universal
The Counterfeit Killer – 1968 – Universal
The Hell With Heroes – 1968 – Universal
Jigsaw – 1968 – Universal
A Dandy In Aspic – 1968 – Columbia
Up Your Teddy Bear (The Toy Grabbers) – 1970 – Geneni Film Distributing
The Out-of-Towners – 1970 – Paramount
The Last of the Mobile Hot-shots – 1970 – Warner Bros.
The Anderson Tapes – 1971 – Columbia
Brother John – 1971 – Columbia
Honky – 1971 – Jack H. Harris Enterprises
The Getaway – 1972 – Warner Bros.
The New Centurions – 1972 – Columbia
Get Rich or Die Tryin' – 2005 - Paramount

Then there is some television work for NBC/Universal: Bob Hope Presents the Chrysler Theater (“The Faceless Man” – 1963) and Ironside (including the second pilot, “Split Second to an Epitaph” - 1968 and the TV movie “The Return of Ironside” – 1993).

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 4:19 AM   
 By:   mortenbond   (Member)

It is a great shame that QJ is not more available. His 60s and 70s scores are right up there with the hippest of Schifrin, Barry and Mancini. Somehow QJ is overlooked. Which is strange, as he is one of the most successfull composer/songwriter/producers ever. But then again, that might just be the reason. His pop efforets of the 80s might put film music people off - or is it that he is such a big name that one cannot get permission or cannot afford to release his stuff?

Thoughts?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 7:15 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I'm at a loss why there is a general lack of enthusiasm for Q's film scores. However, many of the films are pretty obscure now. Also, people who were aged 30 in 1965 when Mirage was released are either no longer with us or are aged 78 and perhaps not too interested in 60s scores any more.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 7:41 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

Well, that's also good if the old releases are still available. Despite what labels may say, I think it is just common sense that a release should be available for a least 1 year. I am always perplexed when people are so happy when something is sold out. With a few Q. Jones releases out, I think the label should be able to judge out many they could make for the next release. Unless the labels are just trying to maximize profits over quality, which I doubt, I don't see why the Q. Jones works above could not be released, given that tapes exist and licensing fees are normal. Perhaps the labels owner just do not have a strong personal interest?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

'For Love Of Ivy' and 'Walk Don't Run' are available as Amazon downloads.

Not perfect, but something.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

I guess that some LPs are also fairly cheap to obtain in Mint condition?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   Eugene Iemola   (Member)

Since Q was a big time producer I'd bet he has all his tapes locked away somewhere in LA. What I wouldn't give for a complete soundtrack to In Cold Blood and In The Heat of The Night, although I have to admit, the LP's are pretty complete.

By the way, was The Pawnbroker ever released on CD?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   Eugene Iemola   (Member)

Seems my big ideas and questions have already been mentioned in that other thread on Jones. So sorry.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

.

By the way, was The Pawnbroker ever released on CD?


Yes, on a double header with 'The Deadly Affair'

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 11:14 AM   
 By:   mrchriswell   (Member)

Lalo Schifrin seems to have made it a mission to keep his film music available with his label, even if it meant re-recording his scores. Quincy just doesn't appear interested in the same way, or just has had more other stuff on his plate than his peers of that period.

 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2013 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   Doctor Shatterhand   (Member)

For years I have been posting here about getting MacKenna's Gold properly released. I simply cannot believe that the score is missing or lost. Is it possible to get the music from the film stem?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2013 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

For years I have been posting here about getting MacKenna's Gold properly released. I simply cannot believe that the score is missing or lost. Is it possible to get the music from the film stem?

A little frustating that MacKenna's Gold has not yet had a release. Is it loss of tapes?

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2015 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   RobotSam   (Member)

'For Love Of Ivy' and 'Walk Don't Run' are available as Amazon downloads.

Not perfect, but something.


I just got the Walk Don't Run download from Amazon, enjoying it quite a bit especially the first 3 tracks 'Happy Feet', 'Stay With Me', and 'Copy Cat (Wack a Doo)'. Very much in the 60's Mancini vein. Highly recommended.

This release also adds 4 big band tracks at the end which might be source cues but more likely were added to pad out the length of the release. These tracks are film and TV themes and all are excellent: 'Theme from The Asphalt Jungle', 'Enchanted Melody', 'Bus Stop', and 'Cain's Hundred'. I've been hunting around to see if these are taken from a different Jones album but can't find them anywhere else. Does anyone know more about these 4 tracks?

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2015 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

This release also adds 4 big band tracks at the end which might be source cues but more likely were added to pad out the length of the release. These tracks are film and TV themes and all are excellent: 'Theme from The Asphalt Jungle', 'Enchanted Melody', 'Bus Stop', and 'Cain's Hundred'. I've been hunting around to see if these are taken from a different Jones album but can't find them anywhere else. Does anyone know more about these 4 tracks?


Those four tracks were tacked onto the original 1991 Mainstream CD release of WALK DON'T RUN to add 15 minutes to the running time of the LP, which otherwise ran only 28 minutes. They don't involve Quincy Jones in any way. Mainstream did this on several of its CD releases of individual LP soundtracks to add running time. (Most of its CDs included two LPs.)

All four of those tracks come from a 1962 LP called "The Jazz Soul of Doctor Kildare and Other Great Television Themes" by Harry Betts & His Orchestra, which appeared on Choreo Records (A/AS-6).

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2015 - 7:37 PM   
 By:   RobotSam   (Member)

Those four tracks were tacked onto the original 1991 Mainstream CD release of WALK DON'T RUN to add 15 minutes to the running time of the LP, which otherwise ran only 28 minutes. They don't involve Quincy Jones in any way. Mainstream did this on several of its CD releases of individual LP soundtracks to add running time. (Most of its CDs included two LPs.)

All four of those tracks come from a 1962 LP called "The Jazz Soul of Doctor Kildare and Other Great Television Themes" by Harry Betts & His Orchestra, which appeared on Choreo Records (A/AS-6).


Thanks very much Bob, appreciate it. And here I thought it was Quincy's band. Those 4 tracks sound really good, now I need to hunt down the Harry Betts album. Never heard of the guy but looking at the album credits on discogs website looks like a lot of well known west coast session players were involved.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2015 - 12:49 AM   
 By:   Mr. Popular   (Member)

Quincy Jones is a composer, which has compose a lot of good scores, which never are released official.
How long have we wait of MAKENNA'S GOLD or CACTUS FLOWER?
Please release it


McKenna's Gold is probably one of the few Quincy Jones scores that the specialist labels would be interested in. Being a late 60s Columbia movie, the score tapes may well be lost.

I agree that it's frustrating that so few Q scores have had CD releases. Sadly the FSM release of 'The Split' has been unable to sell it's 1500 copies since it's release, 4 years ago.

There is interest drom some in 'The Anderson Tapes' but again there are doubts about the existance of elements.

'The Getaway' is another one where tapes seem to be missing.

Not an encoraging landscape for fans of Q's film scores.


Yes, the elements for The Anderson Tapes are missing. I doubt we ever see that come out unless somebody pops up with elements.

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2015 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   zippy   (Member)

If Quincy had arranged the material from Anderson Tapes for an Lp, I'm sure it would have been an enjoyable listen. As a score only Cd, it would be something of a difficult listen.

 
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